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ADD #1 11/15/11

Sherman Adds to Our Understanding of ‘The Incident at Mazzeo’s’

If you scroll below to the last item, you will see the disclosure of an incident that happened on Election Night at the victory celebrations for Dan Bianchi and Melissa Mazzeo.

John Krol, Barry Clairmont, and one or two others were called to the carpet by Tony Mazzeo, Melissa’s husband, for the “disrespect” they have shown to his wife. Kevin Sherman gave us this addition.

Sherman tells THE PLANET: “I personally did not draw the ‘ire’ [of Tony], as you put it, on Election Night, but my wife and I did see an uncomfortable situation as we made our way into the Bianchi party and another one as we made our way out to say hello and congrats to Melissa.”

We thank Kevin Sherman for this clarification. It appears there were two separate “discussions.” Now that Dan Bianchi is set to become the next mayor, it appears that Tony Mazzeo will be less willing to tolerate the less-than-collegial behavior directed at his wife. Our advice to them is, “Cool it.” We can easily see where Sherman did not draw the “ire,” because he has been unfailingly affable to political friend and foe alike … incidentally, exactly the quality needed in the next council president.


(FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE, TUESDAY, Nov. 15, 2011) — We conducted a little experiment. On Wednesday morning, Nov. 11, The Storefront Artists Project sent out its own obituary. We could have run it that morning. We didn’t. We wanted to see when the BB would publish it and what spin they would take. Good thing we didn’t hold our breath, because we would have been breathless until today.

Rip-and-Read at the Boring Broadsheet: A Storefront Stipulation

On page B1 of the Boring Broadsheet, we get the grim (but old, since iBerkshires ran it first) news — only the way the BB presents it, the closing of Storefront is a great event. They lazily quote directly from founder Maggie Mailer’s press release. They obviously didn’t bother to vet the release, and so BB readers learn that Storefront “is cheerfully closing up shop.”

“Cheerfully closing up.” THE PLANET swears this is what the BB printed, quoting Mailer. In the newspaper business, they call this type of laziness “rip and read journalism.”

Mailer’s press release goes on: “Our starting mission was to fill empty storefronts and to forge a community of artists, entrepreneurs, businesses, and residents. It’s incredible to see all the positive changes in Pittsfield over the last ten years: theatre, galleries, restaurants, pop-up stores, coffee shops, artist run projects, and the list goes on.” (Love the British spelling of theater).

Yes, Maggie, the list sure does go on: storefronts still empty, inadequate parking, an ill-advised redesign of North Street that’s put several businesses on the brink of closing, a flourishing drug trade, stabbings, shootings, creepy crawlies roaming the avenue by day and night, too much trash, clogged traffic lanes, out-of-synch traffic light, and an atmosphere of loneliness and angst. As Maggie say, the list goes on.

‘With Flying Colors

The Boring Broadsheet then goes on to quote Mailer, lifting straight from the press release, to say, “We have achieved our purpose with flying colors.” THE PLANET does not doubt this, if the purpose was to get the taxpayers to fund Mailer’s quixotic odyssey that had no chance in the free marketplace.

Somehow, the BB failed to ask the pertinent questions:

“Maggie, how much taxpayer money did you receive for being the founding mother and the executive director? What set of circumstances drove you off the project? Why is it that the general public didn’t care enough for your artwork and that of many of the Storefront artists? Why did you need taxpayers to pay the bills? Why the second- and third-rate nature of too many of your displays? You admit in your press release that this began as a vanity promotion of your work alone; from that, did you convince the city to give you backing solely because you’re one of Norman Mailer’s kids? Can you give us any objective measurement of ‘all the positive changes’ engendered by Storefront, other than making the claim?”

Mailer then shares her pride in “put[ting] Pittsfield on the map.” Even THE PLANET can’t claim that, for we acknowledge that long before we arrived in the fair city, Pittsfield had a long and illustrious history, dating back to William Pitt and earlier. Mailer claims that “Downtown is thriving.” Here, she must be referring to the drug traffic and the crazy vehicular traffic that makes traversing Pittsfield in a car or truck a moving frustration.

Somehow, the Boring Broadsheet did a rip-and-read with Mailer’s press release, not seeing a much bigger story here: The community that put so much stock in the arts-and-entertainment-driven economy has another element fail. Storefront Artist Project is closing because it can read the tea leaves. Maggie Mailer knows that Pittsfield is in tough financial shape, and the new administration will not tolerate her freeloading act any longer. The Storefront Artist Project demonstrates, again, that arts and entertainment cannot DRIVE a local economy. They can keep one going, they can add to one, but they can’t create business.

Sad to say, but art doesn’t sell in the free market. Only when a manufacturing-and-services economy gets going will the arts have a chance, on their own.


FROM THE STOOLEY — “Here’s one for you, PLANET, that shows exactly what is wrong with government. The town hall in Lee and the fire station projects went out to bid. Three contractors bid, and the lowest bid was $25,000. The town didn’t accept the lowest bid. They went with a $45,000 bid from an outside company. Why didn’t they take the low bid, especially when it was submitted by a local contractor with experience. This local contractor has painted town hall and done other commercial jobs around the Berkshires. Government spending at all levels is out of control. You can’t tell me that an extra $20,000 couldn’t have gone to better use elesewhere. I think the taxpayers in Lee are getting worked over big time. This is just one example. It’s happening all over.”

THE PLANET agrees with THE STOOLEY’s note. It’s happening in many places, and it happens only because We The People allow it to happen. Government doesn’t think it works for you, because you are too busy trying to keep your head above water to oversee the bums. That’s just what they want, which is why towns and communities need more vigilant involved citizens, to ride herd on the skunks.


MARCHETTI MAKES A GOOD CALL — Congratulations to Peter Marchetti for continuing to show class in defeat. Marchetti demonstrated that his reconciliatory words to the Dan Bianchi camp and its supporters were honest and sincere with his decision not to seek a recount. The recount would have cost taxpayers more money and with all but a technical certainly would not have changed the result. Peter now has two years removed from the stress of public office. He has two years to resume his career at Pittsfield Co-Operative Bank and two years to acclimate to the change in pressure by rising to the surface. We wish him well, and we shall maintain our relationship.


SO WHAT HAPPENED AT THE VICTORY PARTY or WOULD YOU BELEIVE, BARRY CLAIRMONT MAKES THE NEWS AGAIN? — Regulars on THE PLANET know from a couple of commentators that an incident occurred at the victory parties of Dan Bianchi and Melissa Mazzeo, held upstairs and down, respectively, at the old Mazzeo’s location on Winter Street in Pittsfield. We also heard a third version from a public employee who was there, as well as what we know is a more definitive account.

The incident occurred in the parking lot and continued inside. Piecing together four accounts, it appears that Barry Clairmont, Jonathan Lothrop, John Krol, and at least one other, whose identity is uncertain, were in the parking lot, when Melissa’s husband, Tony, ran into the good fellows. From an impeccable source, we get the scoop:

“Tony was heading out to the parking lot on election night and happened to run into John Krol and Jonathon Lothrop coming in. Tony said to the both of them that he has been frustrated over the last two years with them being disrespectful to his wife.
“He said that he does not always agree with his wife and did NOT expect them to, but he takes issue with all of the disrespect. He stated that he is constantly hearing from his customers at the Restaurant that they are irritated by the way the councilors talk to and show visual annoyance with Melissa.
“He said that if he disrespected any of their wives he would hope that they were man enough to approach him. He asked for it to end and then bought them a drink on the house.
“Inside the party he found Barry Clairmont and gave him the same speech, and also spoke with  Kevin Sherman.  He said that he just wanted to lay it out there that we can agree to disagree but there is only so much he can take of the disrespect.”

Another source said Tony’s chat with Clairmont laid the message out “nice and sparkling clear.” This was before Clairmont decided to cut off communications with THE PLANET. You know what’s happened since. Do you think Clairmont is having buyer’s remorse about winning a seat on the council?  We thank all those who contributed to getting the facts of this story, which, initially, were all over the place. We especially thank our Key Source for the input. He or she knows who they are.

We have a call into J-Lo and a query into Sherman. We take Clairmont at his word and won’t try to reach him for comment, although we would welcome one if he takes initiative. John Krol, reached via Facebook, sent back a terse, “No comment.”






  1. Still wondering
    November 15, 2011 at 9:44 am #

    Dan, the history of Storefront is a good deal different than what you describe.
    First, let me say that without any doubt, Storefronts arrival provided a big shot of adrenilin for the arts scene which was then in its infancy. In those days, it was almost exclusively the Lichtenstein.
    Second, Storefront’s original location was a result of the owner of the building inviting it in with little or no rent being paid. She as a result called the shots at Storefront. Not Ms Mailer.
    Third, Storefront thrived at its original location. When Peter Dudek became Executuve Director, Storefront entered its golden age.
    Fourth, cultural happenings go in waves. Storefront is no exception. Peter Dudek’s departure and the owner of the building where Storefront was located selling the building was a blow that Storefront never recovered from. The new E.D. was basically a failure and the new location didn’t work at all. No parking and it’s not easy to bring works of art to the new location. I figured the writing was on the wall.
    So by and large, Storefront was a HUGE success. The art scene is here to stay. Enjoy the new Pittsfield. All you’ve got to do is get out there and experience it.

  2. Banjo
    November 15, 2011 at 9:51 am #

    Well, I can only relate to it in a reference made in the article: I enjoyed, or liked, or even found stimulating very little of the “art” produced by the group. It couldn’t fly on its own. didn’t like that my taxes were spent there without my say. Also agree with the comments on the newspaper. The eagle fcan’t be trusted.

  3. danvalenti
    November 15, 2011 at 1:33 pm #

    NOTE: THE PLANET has trashed two of Steve Wade’s comments. Yesterday, when we attempted to contact Mr. Wade by e-mail, his addresses turned out to be phony. The message bounced back. If Mr. Wade wishes to continue posting at this site, he will have to contact us privately with a good e-mail address so we can have this discussion. If not, we will instruct our webmaster to trash his posts. They have outlined their usefulness.

    • danvalenti
      November 15, 2011 at 2:38 pm #


  4. Hilly Billy 2 in Ward 4
    November 15, 2011 at 1:34 pm #

    Bye Bye Stevie I Wonder…back to surfing porn for you

  5. tito
    November 15, 2011 at 1:42 pm #

    See ya, Low grade Wade! We lke Dan!

  6. Hilly Billy 2 in Ward 4
    November 15, 2011 at 1:48 pm #

    Councilor Krol’s “no comment” to you Dan probably mimics what he had to say in the parking lot that dark and stormy night..NOTHING!!..For once Boy Wonder was silenced..Jokers like His Highness, Distinguished Pittsfield Ward 6 City CouncilorJonathon Krol, is that better respect to show his Lordness Dan?, JLo and the like talk alot smack in front of the cameras and at their little wine and cheese tastings, but when confronted with the truth, mano e mano in the dimly lit Mazzeo’s parking lot…they both hiked up their skirts, no offense ladies, to show their flower laden panties…

    • dusty
      November 15, 2011 at 2:23 pm #

      Which one of these bad asses was the eye roller when Melissa talked?

      Melissa, thanks for standing up for the people…courage is rare in Pittsfield politics so that makes you special. Lothrop had courage when he first came on the scene but someone convinced him to join the special interests. Stay the course and the people will continue to respect and look up to you.

      • Nomad
        November 15, 2011 at 6:02 pm #

        Right on!!!!!

    • danvalenti
      November 15, 2011 at 2:43 pm #

      In fairness to John Krol, HB2IW4, he did call today after the post and gave us his version. Under the wise advice of “don’t chase criticism,” he wanted his remarks off the record and not for use. We will respect that.

  7. beezer
    November 15, 2011 at 2:22 pm #

    Come on Wade. Don’t fade away. Just be real and stop attacking with rants. You could offer a lot in here. The alternative is to get kicked out and join the shadowy Berkshire Eagle, with the shadowy figure of a man in a clowns hat, that everyone thinks is one person. What better way to use your grey matter than to discuss your points with a little civilty. The Planet is forgiving, but if your agenda is vendetta like, adios amigos.

    • danvalenti
      November 15, 2011 at 2:40 pm #

      Just as you say. We are forgiving, when forgiveness is asked. We have told Mr. Wade he did have contributions to make, but he has chosen to do it his way, which is to bring the website into where we won’t go, into the “shadowy” areas where the BB resides in its online comments feature.

  8. beezer
    November 15, 2011 at 3:24 pm #

    I don’t understand Councilor Mazzeos husband. The Councilor has handled herself extremely well. The fact that she had the most votes in this years election shows what the voters think of Council Mazzeo. She is reigning popular vote candidate, and the voters and taxpayers, not her fellow Councilors respect, is all that’s needed. I like her ability to fight solo, and her line of questioning is Darrow like. Why tip your hand to the likes of the gob’s, or anyone else, weakness doesn’t seem to fit Miss Melissa! She will be our next Mayor, if we can survive the crime wave.

  9. X-Ray I's
    November 15, 2011 at 3:28 pm #

    I wondered that too. Mazzeo has been a good (not great councilor) overrated. Why did her husband have to act like a … well, I know a cop who was there and apparently there was alcohol involved. Shock, huh? Ton’y’s emotions got hte best of him. The ones he confronted handled themselves well according to my guy there! I was at another candidate’s post-election gathering. Before we crown her St. Melissa let’s get real. Just sayin’.

    • Jim Gleason
      November 15, 2011 at 6:53 pm #

      Tony did a lot less than I would have. Those three deserve a good ass whuppin’. They’re all brave in a crown but not mam on man. Good job Tony, way to do what most of us have wanted to for a couple years.

  10. beezer
    November 15, 2011 at 3:38 pm #

    …..last comment on this..she’s just warming up, dude.

  11. rick
    November 15, 2011 at 3:47 pm #

    lothrop hopefully is going down with a recount, 2yrs down the road i hope some one runs against kroll just because hes a pompus ass. if i was tony mazzeo i would have cleaned little prissy boys clock right in the parking lot and dumped in the dumpster… no need for disrespect on that council….. you could see their frustration when melissa tried to get them to think about what they were voting on… she makes them look like the dork brothers.

  12. On the Q-T
    November 15, 2011 at 4:06 pm #

    When it comes to Melissa, I feel she has honored the intetions of the people better than any councilor on the dais. The “incident” was long overdue. Thanks, Tony, for being a chivalrous man.

  13. rick
    November 15, 2011 at 4:26 pm #

    i think by giving the two bobbleheads notice, tony might have started the decline of the want to be gobs….. im sure by being top vote getter that these two idiots(KROLL,LOTHROP) have to take a new stance on the council or lose any remaining respect ,if any ,they have left.

  14. tito
    November 15, 2011 at 5:38 pm #

    Someone said Joe Paterno was speaking at the council meeting?

  15. Mark Smith
    November 15, 2011 at 6:38 pm #

    This is the way i look at the situation between Tony Mazzeo and the councilors. First off, as much as I dislike the treatment they give Melissa at the council meetings, I also believe that she is a big girl and it is her job to defend herself. I work in a job that I would not expect my wife or husband to come in and fight my battles. Secondly, I do not think that the incident should have happened at Dan Bianchi’s reception party. not too cool Tony!

    • Joetaxpayer
      November 15, 2011 at 7:37 pm #

      From what I have read,he was letting those guys know how he felt about there treatment of his wife.Sounds like it was civil,and must not offended them to much or they would not of gone inside of his establishment.Good for you Tony and hopefully this will put a end to some of the childess behavior of the past.Good luck to the new mayor and council lets see if we can actually make a few cuts to are bloated budget.

    • Jim Gleason
      November 16, 2011 at 7:46 am #

      It was Melissa’a reception too, at she and Tony’s venue. Why did these two GOB’s even show up? They are hypocrites on top of being bobbleheads. They dis Melissa for two years and have the balls to show up at her celebration? No brains.

  16. Hearse Driver
    November 15, 2011 at 6:46 pm #

    melissa wasnt the top vote getter in the election. Kathy Amuso of the School Committee was the top vot getter in the city.

    • Jim Gleason
      November 16, 2011 at 7:48 am #

      OK John Krol. Why don’t you have the guts to put your real name on here?

    November 15, 2011 at 8:29 pm #

    All I can say to Tony is shame on you. You did no credit to your wife acting like you talk to your help. Melissa can handle her own!!! If it was a private remark to her that would be different. They have all the right to debate her at meetings etc. Now every time she speaks and no one calls her on issues I will say “well Tony scared them. Plus I agreed why at Bianchi reception. Your temper and drinking Tony is going to get you in big trouble one of these days. And for the record I”m a big fan of Melissa. Cool it Tony.

    • Browning
      November 15, 2011 at 8:48 pm #

      Concerned, I agree with everything you just posted, my words and thoughts exactly. There are two sides to the incident.

    • dusty
      November 16, 2011 at 2:21 am #

      I think if the situation helps cure the adolescent behavior of a few immature councilman then I am all for it. If these fools can’t behave like adults they should not run for office. If they engaged in meaningful conversation, as they were elected to do and stopped trying to impress Ruberto with their snarky attitudes, perhaps Pittsfield could move forward for ALL the people.

    • Jim Gleason
      November 16, 2011 at 8:01 am #

      Were you there? I was, and Tony wasn’t under the influence. Would you not speak up for your spouse if he/she were being disrespected by these culls? I would hope so. As I said before, it was Melissa’s reception too, at their establishment. You don’t come there and talk crap about one of the guests of honor as I heard happened also. Again, good job Tony..

  18. Ray Ovac
    November 16, 2011 at 12:22 am #

    BB Headline: “Storefront Artist Project closes: The end of an Era.”

  19. Ron Kitterman
    November 16, 2011 at 4:21 am #

    @ Hearst Driver in the school committee race the voters can vote for up to 6 candidates, in the at large the voters can vote for up to 4. So, although Kathy Amuso received more votes overall ratio would be different. In the race for mayor, the voters are given 1 choice.

  20. Ron Kitterman
    November 16, 2011 at 4:52 am #

    @ concerned I think Tony was saying Don’t let your mouth write a check that your ass can’t Cash. Somehow, I can’t picture them rolling thier eyes at that moment for fear of getting serious dental work done.

    • Leona
      November 16, 2011 at 6:04 am #

      That would have been great publicity for the restaurant.

  21. beezer
    November 16, 2011 at 5:08 am #

    I think Krol could take this Tony. I’d be more afraid of his wife!

    • Jim Gleason
      November 16, 2011 at 8:05 am #

      Krol c\an hardly take himself, as is the case with Lothrop. Don’t make me laugh.

  22. beezer
    November 16, 2011 at 5:12 am #

    Melissa had them running in circles last night at the gob’s meeting. Even I’m dizzy!

    • ambrose bearse
      November 16, 2011 at 7:10 am #

      wasn’t she GREAT!

  23. Hilly Billy 2 in Ward 4
    November 16, 2011 at 6:02 am #

    @ Ron Kitterman…I love it!! Here is the bottom line on “the incident” …

    @ Concerned and Browning…No one should have a problem, and no one does ,with healthy debate or even difference of opinion on the Council or any board for that matter…Where it crosses the line is arrogant, snarky attitude that attempts to marginalize someone who is asking questions or has a difference of opinion like Councilor Mazzeo has done astutely over the past 2 years..She does her homework, hasn’t sold out to special interests, isn’t afraid of anyone, asks tough questions and truly represents the People of Pittsfield, and not only Tony, but many residents and voters of Pittsfield, want the arrogant, eye rolling to stop…So thank you Tony for telling those 3 Sallys what we ALL have wanted to say for years and for being man enough to tell those jokers to stop the uncalled for BS that is insulting to your wife, family and The People of Pittsfield…Lets hope, for the sake of healthy debate and moving forward, that they can look in the mirror and realize their immaturity and that they heed the warning and disagree without being disagreeable…

  24. tito
    November 16, 2011 at 6:16 am #

    Well said Hilly Billy 2 on the Hill in Ward 4! Lothrop ain’t officia,l yet.

  25. X-Ray I's
    November 16, 2011 at 7:23 am #

    Tony Mazzeo was out of line and he showed disrespect to two of the finest councilors we have, John Krol and Jonathan Lothrop. What no one on this site seems to want to discuss is that St. Melissa is a front for Pam Malumphy. Now tell me, honestly, does anyone want that? The city of Pittsfield can thank progressive representatives such as Krol and Lothrop, and the leadership of Mayor Ruberto, in making the past eight years great ones for the city. With Mayor-elect Bianchi, the jury is out. He did help run the city into the financial tank when he was treasurer. So please, Planet groupies, a little balance.

    • Jim Gleason
      November 16, 2011 at 8:11 am #

      You drank the Kool Aid full glass with a shot of stupid nixed in DBAG.

      • Joetaxpayer
        November 16, 2011 at 4:54 pm #

        Jim I think he had a double shot of stupid mixed and drank it out of a Dbag.

  26. Hilly Billy 2 in Ward 4
    November 16, 2011 at 8:01 am #

    @ X-Ray I’s….OK John, we all know that’s you posing as XRay….Talk about transparent…Everyone on this site know how condescending you are Councilor Krol, so when you come on here and say otherwise, it’s pretty obvious it YOU posting John
    Also, Bianchi didn’t run the City into the Tank when he was treasurer but rather helped guide it thru pretty tough times, Get your facts straight Jack, I was pretty active in the City during those times…

  27. Molly
    November 16, 2011 at 8:11 am #

    If I were Melissa, I would’ve been pretty ticked at my husband for that. What – he doesn’t think that she can handle it on her own and she needs her husband to step in for her? That is unbelievably embarrassing, and sexist.

    I also don’t think that this website posting the story did Melissa any favors — just more embarrassment and undermining her because she’s a female. I’m disappointed.

    • danvalenti
      November 16, 2011 at 9:23 am #

      This website shared the story because it shed light on the various currents of opposition that serve as undertow in the ocean of municipal politics. THE PLANET merely reported on a story that the Mainstream Media ignored, because they factor into account such elements as your post mentions. THE PLANET will not shy away from ANY story solely on the basis of one side or the other looking bad or, as you say, being embarrassed. We disagree, by the way, with your characterization of Tony Mazzeo’s behavior as “sexist.” We see it as spousal chivalry, which, in our view, goes both ways and transcends gender.

      • Molly
        November 16, 2011 at 6:47 pm #

        So then what you’re saying, Dan, is that if your wife did what Tony did and it was all over the media, you’d be just fine with that? What if it was Clairmont’s wife, defending him? I can hear it now – “he’s not able to handle his own disputes – he needs to send his WIFE out to do his dirty work as he doesn’t have the balls to do it himself. What kind of a leader is that?” (Not that I’m sticking up for Clairmont in the least – just using him as an example.)

        I don’t know Melissa Mazzeo personally at all. In fact, if I walked passed her on the street, I wouldn’t necessarily recognize her. But I found this entire topic to be in poor taste and more in line with the gossip rags type of reporting.

        If you have noticed other Councilors treating her poorly and with disrespect, your commenting on that would be appropriate as one of the “currents of opposition that serve as undertow in the ocean of municipal politics.” This is not. There’s a big difference between those two scenarios because if you mentioned what you noticed happening, then the ones rolling their eyes (or whatever) would be the ones that look bad. These articles make Melissa look like “the poor helpless wife” that needs her chivalrous husband to come to her rescue. She is a Councilor! She can handle it as she sees fit. And she was – obviously very successfully, too. She didn’t need her husband doing this, nor did you need to make it public by reporting gossip involving her husband.

        Thank you for the opportunity to voice my opposition – it is appreciated.

        • danvalenti
          November 16, 2011 at 7:15 pm #

          I respect you input and am glad to provide a forum for all reasonable points of view.

    • Joetaxpayer
      November 16, 2011 at 4:58 pm #

      Molly,missing the point,dont think for a minute that if someone was talking smack about Tony, Melissa would not speak her mind too.Thats what family does,nothing to do with persons sex.Lets not start burning bras over this.

      • danvalenti
        November 16, 2011 at 7:17 pm #

        JOE the T
        That last line is a classic!

      • Jim Gleason
        November 17, 2011 at 2:37 pm #


  28. Hilly Billy 2 in Ward 4
    November 16, 2011 at 8:17 am #

    @ Jimmy G…those jokers got no brains and no class…

  29. Hilly Billy 2 in Ward 4
    November 16, 2011 at 10:01 am #

    @ Molly…While I respect your positionand welcome your perspective as a woman, it’s nice to hear from a woman on this mostly male dominated blog, I must respectfully disagree with the behavior of Tony M as “sexist”….
    There is a certain way that a man can talk to a man that a woman cannot and vice versa..a certain way a woman can talk to another woman that a man cannot….
    I think it was more of a code of honor as a man that should be extended to another man that precipitated “the incident”…

      November 16, 2011 at 4:46 pm #

      Hilly With all due respect that is baloney you just wrote. If you don’t believe me asked some woman

    November 16, 2011 at 5:14 pm #

    Also don’t forget this disrespect as some are referring to all happened at the council meetings. I happened outside maybe I would agree.

    • Molly
      November 16, 2011 at 6:53 pm #

      Bingo! Thank you!

  31. factual
    November 21, 2011 at 7:45 am #

    Get your facts correct Storefront did not receive government $. Yes that is true, so let me repeat, SAP did not receive government $.

    DIxon was a failure, so was Dudek.

    • danvalenti
      November 21, 2011 at 7:54 am #

      We thank you for this. Since you seen to know, can you tell us how much money did Storefront cost on a yearly basis, and where did the funds come from for the source? Since you say they didn’t receive any government funds, then it must have been 100% privately funded. Is that accurate? we’d be grateful for the information.

  32. factual
    November 21, 2011 at 8:16 am #

    funding came from individual donors, businesses, foundations, some in-kind most in $

    • danvalenti
      November 21, 2011 at 10:03 am #

      Thanks. Would a list of funding be available for us to examine. We tried finding it on the website but couldn’t find anything of value. THE PLANET would love to see the list. If you can help, let us know.

      • factual
        November 21, 2011 at 12:47 pm #

        did you try talking with a person there? this is common knowledge that anyone would know when hanging out at emporium and attending events why waste time on the negativity when you can talk about the good things they did

        • danvalenti
          November 21, 2011 at 1:28 pm #

          You have dodged my question. Can you provide me with the details that support your claim of no taxpayer dollars being involved? The invitation stands. We did talk to people there, and that’s what prompted out statement that taxpayer funds were involved. Here’s your chance to set the record straight with data, that for some reason, those associated with SAP seem reluctant to share.

  33. factual
    November 21, 2011 at 1:49 pm #

    why should i prove or defend your false claim? you should prove it, ask the people who were involved.

  34. Hilly Billy 2 in Ward 4
    November 21, 2011 at 1:57 pm #

    You should prove YOUR claim factual…otherwise the info as presented will stand, if you have more info, why be coy?

  35. Giacometti
    November 26, 2011 at 11:20 pm #

    The Storefront Artists were not artists… they were performers.
    An artist does not want to create in a storefront. An artist would rather be left alone to create in their studio…they don’t have time nor do they care to show everyone that they are artists.

    There have always been artists in the downtown….long before
    the Storefront Artists set up their stage to perform…they were just not visible in their studios doing what they do best…creating.

    Every non-profit has to show the Secretary of State where their funding comes from…so what’s the problem ?

    • danvalenti
      November 27, 2011 at 10:18 am #

      Great post. You make a distinction here that can only come from a true artist. And yes, there have long been artists on North Street, especially the enclave in the old Newberry’s building. SAP and Mailer acted as if they invented not only art but artists.