PLANET VALENTI News and Commentary

(FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE, Tuesday, Feb. 4, 2014) — One of the greatest triumphs of the 1960s, a decade those looking to make a fast buck shall be “celebrating” ad nauseum for it being 50 years ago — like that’s an achievement or something — was the emphasis it put on the second-class status of women. Of course, what starts out as a good thing invariably becomes corrupt and corrupted when put into actual practice. The greatest ideas become dunce fodder when put into practice by our species.

The reasonable notions of gender equality soon gave way to the Feminazis, to use Rush Limbaugh‘s amalgamative grenade, men haters who saw the matter in terms of war. They were often women who loved women, women too ugly to have won a man, women who had daddy issues — hasty generalizations of females that came into existence because of the blanket of truth that could cover many if not most of the relevant cases.

From this militant feminist cadre came the next generation, who wanted the hard earned gains of their sisters but who still wanted to ply the bimbo peculiar to the gender. They came to see the female qualities of nurturing and mothering, for example, as quaint anachronisms. In short, we have many of today’s “liberated” women, who want to have their feminist cake and eat it, too. In the real world, that can’t be done. But “feminists,” like all “ists,” do not live in the real world. In the real world, Utopia is not an option. In the “ist” world, however, Utopia finds insistence. The resultant “new person,” a self-absorbed lady superbrat, expects the world to cater and conform to her.

While holding court in a round-table discussion of the above topic recently, someone gave THE PLANET the following article.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — More than half of female Marines in boot camp can’t do three pullups, the minimum standard that was supposed to take effect with the new year, prompting the Marine Corps to delay the requirement, part of the process of equalizing physical standards to integrate women into combat jobs.

The delay rekindled sharp debate in the military on the question of whether women have the physical strength for some military jobs, as service branches move toward opening thousands of combat roles to them in 2016.

Although no new timetable has been set on the delayed physical requirement, Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Amos wants training officials to “continue to gather data and ensure that female Marines are provided with the best opportunity to succeed,” Capt. Maureen Krebs, a Marine spokeswoman, said Thursday.

Starting with the new year, all female Marines were supposed to be able to do at least three pullups on their annual physical fitness test and eight for a perfect score. The requirement was tested in 2013 on female recruits at Marine Corps Recruit Depot, Parris Island, S.C., but only 45 percent of women met the minimum, Krebs said.

The Marines had hoped to institute the pullups on the belief that pullups require the muscular strength necessary to perform common military tasks such as scaling a wall, climbing up a rope or lifting and carrying heavy munitions.

Officials felt there wasn’t a medical risk to putting the new standard into effect as planned across the service, but that the risk of losing recruits and hurting retention of women already in the service was unacceptably high, she said.

Because the change is being put off, women will be able to choose which test of upper-body strength they will be graded on in their annual physical fitness test. Their choices:

—Pullups, with three the minimum. Three is also the minimum for male Marines, but they need 20 for a perfect rating.

—A flexed-arm hang. The minimum is for 15 seconds; women get a perfect score if they last for 70 seconds. Men don’t do the hang in their test.

Officials said training for pullups can change a person’s strength, while training for the flex-arm hang does little to adapt muscular strength needed for military tasks

The delay on the standard could be another wrinkle in the plan to begin allowing women to serve in jobs previously closed to them such as infantry, armor and artillery units.

The decision to suspend the scheduled pull-up requirement “is a clear indication” that plans to move women into direct ground combat fighting teams will not work, said Elaine Donnelly, president of the conservative Center for Military Readiness and a critic of allowing women into infantry jobs.

“When officials claim that men and women are being trained the same, they are referring to bare minimums, not maximum qualifications that most men can meet but women cannot,” Donnelly wrote in an email to The Associated Press. “Awarding gender-normed scores so that women can succeed lowers standards for all. Women will suffer more injuries and resentment they do not deserve, and men will be less prepared for the demands of direct ground combat.”

The military services are working to figure out how to move women into newly opened jobs and have been devising updated physical standards, training, education and other programs for thousands of jobs they must open Jan. 1, 2016, said Navy Lt. Cmdr. Nathan Christensen, a Defense Department spokesman. They must open as many jobs to women as possible; if they decide to keep some closed, they must explain why.

Military brass has said repeatedly that physical standards won’t be lowered to accommodate female applicants. Success for women in training for the upcoming openings has come in fits and starts.

In fall 2012, only two female Marines volunteered for the 13-week infantry officers training course at Quantico, Va., and both failed to complete it.

But the following fall, three Marines became the first women to graduate from the Corps’ enlisted infantry training school in North Carolina. They completed the same test standards as the men in the course, which included a 12-mile march with an 80-pound pack and various combat fitness trials such as timed ammunition container lifts and tests that simulate running under combat fire.

Officials had added specific training for female recruits when the pullup requirement was announced in December 2012, and they came up with a workout program for women already serving.

Military testing for physical skill and stamina has changed over the decades with needs of the armed forces. Officials say the first recorded history of Marine Corps physical fitness tests, for example, was 1908 when President Theodore Roosevelt ordered that staff officers must ride horseback 90 miles and line officers walk 50 miles over a three-day period to pass. A test started in 1956 included chinups, pushups, broad jump, 50-yard duck waddle and running.

The first test for women was started in 1969: A 120-yard shuttle run, vertical jump, knee pushups, 600-yard run/walk and situps.


Associated Press writer Julie Watson in San Diego contributed to this report.

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We are realists here on THE PLANET, and we know that in an age of Political Correctness of such strength to even snare the Marine Corps — the Marine Corps, Mandrake! — the authorities will lower the standards to create the illusion that the women can hump 100 pounds of gear 20 klicks as well as the men. When it comes to pushing buttons, women can do it as good as or better than the men.

But let’s face it ladies. When it comes to the deep muddy, you simply do not pack the gear to serve in my beloved Corps!


“Far away my lover sings a lonely song and calls me to her side. When the song of lonely love invites me on, I’ll hurry to her side.”Mary Hopkins, “Goodbye,” (1969).





  1. anne white
    February 4, 2014 at 10:24 am #

    Wow i didnt realize the military was all brawn and no brain.

    I will agree that most woman physically do not have the upper body strength that men do but really Dan you sound like someone out of the fifties.

    I am not an expert on what duties are performed in the marine corps; but I assume that do not require only muscle. I wonder how many pull ups it requires to fly a remote controll drone

    • Mad Trapper
      February 4, 2014 at 1:02 pm #

      – “I wonder how many pull ups it requires to fly a remote controll drone”

      That might be a niche in the Marines for women, but front line combat NOT unless they have the mental AND the physical attributes.

    • Wilson
      February 4, 2014 at 1:16 pm #

      So you’re saying it should be all brain and no brawn? The military requires soldiers with broad capabilities, there is no way to efficiently assign soldiers to a single task. They should be interchangeable cogs to serve the organization, the organization is not there to provide them with “opportunities”. That said it is true that women’s role will likely increase due to recruitment hardships as more military positions become filled by robots, and the country becomes enslaved to the military high command, but that is nothing to be proud of.

    • danvalenti
      February 4, 2014 at 5:08 pm #

      Thanks. Front-line combat requires tremendous upper-body strength. We’re not talking about playing video games here (i.e., flying drones).

      • ed shepardson
        February 4, 2014 at 7:21 pm #

        And you know this how?

        • danvalenti
          February 4, 2014 at 9:03 pm #

          1. Talking to combat veterans. 2. Marine Corps manual 3. Testimony of military fitness experts. 4. Common sense. We’ll stop there.

  2. Rafael
    February 4, 2014 at 10:30 am #

    The only valid test for scaling a wall, climbing up a rope or lifting and carrying heavy munitions, is… scaling a wall, climbing up a rope or lifting and carrying heavy munitions. Doing pullups only makes one better at doing pullups. The skill is not transferable. This is commonly known in sports science.

    • Mad Trapper
      February 4, 2014 at 12:58 pm #

      The women can “hang” on the rope while the men pull them up

    • Wilson
      February 4, 2014 at 1:24 pm #

      Not 100% transferable does not mean 0% transferable. If those tasks are harder than doing a pullup, the pullup is still a useful minimum fitness metric.

      • Rafael
        February 4, 2014 at 2:26 pm #

        Pullups are near zero % transferable to those other skills. I have a funny feeling there are no pullup bars available during combat. If you are facing the enemy are you going to ask them to install pull up bars to demonstrate your strength, or are you going to use your combat training and skills to save your life and the lives of your fellow soldiers?

        • danvalenti
          February 4, 2014 at 5:11 pm #

          And what if your combat skills include having to lift a heavy artillery piece over a wall? What if you need to be able to lift and carry a wounded man who, with gear, weighs more than 200 pounds? You are correct. The enemy will not install pull-up bars on the battlefield, but he will put friendly troops in harm’s way. In many of such situations, the more upper-body strength the better.

          • ed shepardson
            February 4, 2014 at 7:23 pm #

            And you know this how? And you don’t lift artillery pieces over a wall.

          • danvalenti
            February 4, 2014 at 9:04 pm #

            See above.

          • Rafael
            February 5, 2014 at 12:01 pm #

            Lifting a heavy artillery piece over a wall, or lifting and carrying a wounded soldier both use an entirely different set of muscles than doing a pullup. Your lack of knowleadge in kiniseology and anatomy is glaring.

          • danvalenti
            February 5, 2014 at 3:51 pm #

            No worse than your knowledge of spelling, R! Incidentally, I checked with a sports trainer, and she said your statement is “innaccurate. Actually, doing both of these would require great upper body strength (transporting, then getting the heavy object into place to be lifted”).

          • levitan
            February 10, 2014 at 4:09 pm #

            Clever Dan! [THIS COMMENT HAS BEEN EDITED]

          • danvalenti
            February 10, 2014 at 8:59 pm #

            Yes, we rather think so.

  3. joetaxpayer
    February 4, 2014 at 10:44 am #

    If the women can’t pass the same tests as the men, they should not be in combat.

    • Joe Blow
      February 4, 2014 at 11:51 am #

      I agree….it seems feminazis only want equal rights when it works in their favor.

      • GeoSims
        February 5, 2014 at 4:50 am #

        Calling anyone a nazi is an ignorant and unacceptable term. Actually name calling shows a general lack of ability to intelligentlly communicate.

        • danvalenti
          February 5, 2014 at 3:53 pm #

          Yes, fine and all that, now do you care to address the argument, or is that too inconvenient?

    • ed shepardson
      February 4, 2014 at 2:20 pm #

      If we can’t take care of our soldiers when they come home, we shouldn’t be sending anyone into combat, male of female.

  4. Jonathan Melle
    February 4, 2014 at 12:36 pm #

    When I was in the Army, one of the best target shooters in my training unit was a woman soldier. However, I would worry that if woman soldiers became POW’s, they would get raped by the enemy as a form of abuse, torture, and war. Women soldiers already complain about sexual harassment and sex assaults in the military. I believe that if a woman soldier meets all of the tests and qualifications, she should serve in combat. I would hate to see women soldier POW’s raped by the enemy. It is such a tough call!

    • Wilson
      February 4, 2014 at 1:29 pm #

      Apparently they didn’t tell you that you’d probably be raped as a POW too. Probably didn’t want you to desert, while the women aren’t too worried about it

  5. Mad Trapper
    February 4, 2014 at 12:58 pm #

    Wow! The Marines physical requirements have been dumbed down worse than the graduation standards at PHS.

    Back when I was the age of a recruit, I would work out with sets of 15 chinups followed by 15 pullups; 40 fingertip pushups were not a problem either.

    I guess the new “hang test” for women is reasonable. If they can hang 70 seconds, that might give the woman enough time for a male soldier come to save them.

    • danvalenti
      February 4, 2014 at 5:12 pm #

      MAD T
      Yes, it has come to that. Your second sentence is a classic!

  6. dusty
    February 4, 2014 at 3:09 pm #

    I would hope that no American female marine wold have to go one on one with a North Korean female marine. They are probably doing fifty pullups with a buddy on their back. Maybe they could just have tea or go shopping.

  7. Ron Kitterman
    February 4, 2014 at 3:25 pm #

    Colonel Nathan R. Jessup “ Promote ’em all, I say, ’cause this is true,…..”

  8. Gene
    February 4, 2014 at 4:13 pm #

    Women say they want equality but then when they can’t match equal requirements they want special treatment. Which is it, women?

  9. amandaWell
    February 4, 2014 at 4:46 pm #

    Some Russian and Germnan woman bench press twice there wight, so?

    • joetaxpayer
      February 4, 2014 at 6:12 pm #

      Some of those Russian and German women have Adams apples too.

  10. Nota
    February 4, 2014 at 5:08 pm #

    So Buttons, Mandy. Terry Kinnas can do fifty pull ups. Low,three, maybe.

  11. Billy
    February 5, 2014 at 4:16 pm #

    Did you read the letter in the Eagle today written by the mayor I would hope your ready to comment on its validity because in waiting to hear your two cents on his “Lets try a positive approach”.

    • danvalenti
      February 5, 2014 at 5:02 pm #

      I did not see the letter. Let me check it out.

  12. Billy
    February 5, 2014 at 8:58 pm #

    I hope you write a story about his letter, his PCTV candidate. Statement as well as Mel maz pre election editorial Speak volumes by themselves. I think he didn’t even notify Mayor Barettt he was no longer working? How professional is that? The guy got elected for 26 years you think he deserves a slight amount of respect, I think they sent a email.?They wonder why everything is going up around the city and not here. Really?