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TRUMP TRUMPS HILLARY IN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE #1

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BY DAN VALENTI

PLANET VALENTI NEWS AND COMMENTARY

(FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE, THURSDAY SEPT. 29, 2016) — Don’t think the moderator of the first presidential debate had his pro-Hillary undies on Monday night? Guess you didn’t watch, or if you did, you weren’t paying attention. NBC’s Lester Holt did not ask Hillary Clinton one question about her missing e-mails, her use of a private server to conduct official and classified business as secretary of state, her role in the Benghazi disaster, or the corrupt Clinton Foundation. Not one.

On the other hand, Holt asked Donald Trump nothing but daggered questions. When he wasn’t satisfied, he followed up six times to the point of badgering — the way THE PLANET does when moderating a debate. Holt did not follow up once with Clinton. As moderator, THE PLANET has wet-nursed more than 100 debates, and we have no problem with the questioner getting tough. That is our style. But the only way to do it is to be equally sandpapery with both candidates, and none of the fine-grained stuff. They should both be stubbled and grilled. As it was, Holt put Trump in the hot seat and sat Queen Hillary on her icy throne

Joel Pollack from Breitbart, the online syndicated new service: “Again and again, Holt asked Trump tough questions that were straight from the Clinton campaign’s talking points, and which were obvious setups for Clinton to attack [and for fact-checkers to pounce on whatever Trump asserted in his own defense].”

Oddly enough, having to debate both Clinton and Holt played right into Trump’s wheelhouse. In treating Clinton with kid gloves, Holt telegraphed his bias, sending many undecided viewers into Trump’s camp by the shabby tactics. Holt had many strong issues from which to choose — job loss, ISIS, terrorism, and more — but he spent 15 minutes on … on … Barack Obama’s birth certificate?! The trap backfired, as Trump deftly point out that if it wasn’t for his pressure, the birth certificate never would have been released to finally address a controversy brought up by none other than …

… Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager in 2008, when she ran against Obama and lost.
This time, Hillary is running against a non-politician — an “anti-politician,” really — and she will lose again. Trump didn’t score a KO last night, but he clearly won. That’s all he had to do. He did it by several times calling Clinton out for her over-rehearsed, safe “positions” (a word we must use lightly because no one knows what her core beliefs).

Trump scored the evening’s big blow when Holt asked him about releasing his federal income tax returns. The Donald turned it around nicely and said he would do that if Clinton would produce the more than 30,000 e-mails she deleted from the files as secretary of state.

Trump also had the best response during the segment dealing with America’s racial divisions. The GOP nominee said he wanted to make New York City’s “stop and frisk” policy more widespread. Holt said a court deemed the law unconstitutional, to which Trump fired back that it would have been reinstated on appeal, but the the new mayor decided not to pursue the case. Holt, who is black, wouldn’t give it up, calling “stop and frisk” … “a form of racial profiling” — a shameless playing of the race card.

In the New York Times account of the debate, Trump landed big points when he “accurately called out Clinton’s about face on the trade matter.” The reference was to the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal. Clinton initially called it “the gold standard” for international trade but at the debate said she did not favor it. Holt never mentioned it.

The marginal voters, the people who normally don’t vote but will this time, and the undecideds will determine the winner. Judging by the first debate, Donald Trump scored big among these three segments.

It’s still early, but practice saying it: “President Donald Trump.” Trump clearly won and reaffirmed that he is the candidate to Make America Great Again. Here are the poll results:

TIME
Trump 53%
Clinton 47%
Source: TIME

CNBC
Trump 66%
Clinton 34%
Source: CNBC

VARIETY
Trump 57%
Clinton 43%
Source: Variety

THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Trump 69%
Clinton 25%
Source: Washington Times

THE HILL
Trump 58%
Clinton 36%
Source: The Hill

BREITBART
Trump 76%
Clinton 24%
Source: Breitbart

DRUDGE REPORT
Trump 82%
Clinton 18%
Source: Drudge Report

SLATE
Trump 55%
Clinton 45%
Source: Slate

SAN DIEGO UNION TRIBUNE
Trump 65%
Clinton 35%
Source: San Diego Union Tribune

WCPO CINCINNATI
Trump 58%
Clinton 37%
Source: WCPO

LAS VEGAS SUN
Trump 82%
Clinton 18%
Source: Las Vegas Sun

NJ.com
Trump 57%
Clinton 38%
Source: NJ.com

CBS NEW YORK
Trump 60%
Clinton 40%
Source: CBS New York

 

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“The question isn’t ‘Who is going to let me?’ but ‘Who is going to stop me.'”Ayn Rand

“OPEN THE WINDOW, AUNT MILLIE.”

LOVE TO ALL.

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Dick Flimsy
Dick Flimsy
7 years ago

The Eagle had it Hillary 100% Trump 0%

Mad Trapper
Mad Trapper
Reply to  Dick Flimsy
7 years ago

Thank you Dan for the synopsis of the debate.

The Left Winged Parrot blindly loves and champions anything with a D- in front of the name. It’s no longer a viable source of truthful news.

Myself, I could not stand to watch the debate, as I find Ms Clinton repulsive to look at, and nauseating to listen to.

I’ll check The Planet for your evaluation of the next debates, and not risk upchucking my dinner.

Spider
Spider
Reply to  Mad Trapper
7 years ago

I, also, did not watch the debate for the same reasons as you. Knowing what a corrupt liar Clinton is, watching it would make me sick.

Pat
Pat
Reply to  Dick Flimsy
7 years ago

No shock that the BB would make that claim. Did anyone see all of the nasty letters the BB has been getting since they shut down their comments board after they received hundreds of comments on the refugee issue? No doubt they are only printing a very small percentage of the letters that are receiving blasting them for their decision.

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Pat
7 years ago

Last I checked they were a private company. Leave it to the democrats to complain about government, them insist a private company give them a platform for whining and sniveling.

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  Shakes His Head
7 years ago

Take it easy Torch

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  12 Gauge
7 years ago

your mom takes it easy

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  12 Gauge
7 years ago

Necro

GMHeller
GMHeller
Reply to  Pat
7 years ago

And everyone thought that with new management, The Eagle would improve. Not allowing public comments means the new owners truly do not know what the hell they’re doing and are totally in the dark re realities of newspaper publishing in the Internet age.

underhill
underhill
Reply to  GMHeller
7 years ago

Ok this is third hand but my best friend’s son works the the Eagle. The new owners he says have no clue not the first one about running a newspaper.

They shut off comments after people began speaking out against Syrian refugees situation and also because of overwhelming criticism against the changes in the paper itself.

So glad we have this website. Thank you DV.

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  underhill
7 years ago

Friedie the Freeloading pension judge s in charge now. He draws a state pension but hasn’t paid a nickel into the system

Mad Trapper
Mad Trapper
7 years ago

Here is a good story concerning the misdeeds of Crooked Hillary at the state dept involving the Clinton Foundation, Slick Willie, and Clinton’s son in law, Marc Mezvinsky

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/the-clintons-big-fat-greek-bond-wedding/article/2603174

An excerpt:

“State Department attorneys admitted Wednesday that they had lost copies of a 2012 email between Jake Sullivan, a top former aide to Hillary Clinton, and an employee of the Clinton Foundation.

The email contained an attachment memo about Greek bonds — a significant detail given the heavy investments Clinton’s son-in-law, Marc Mezvinsky, was making in the Greek economic recovery during that same period.

Chelsea Clinton, Mezvinsky’s wife, is a board member at the Clinton Foundation. The fact that one of Clinton’s closest aides shared insider information about the economic climate in Greece with the foundation — just one year after Mezvinsky and fellow Goldman Sachs alum founded a hedge fund that operated primarily by placing bets on international economic trends — raises questions about the many potential conflicts of interest that could have arisen from the Clintons’ web of connections.”

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Mad Trapper
7 years ago

I’m pretty sure the layperson could have figured out the status of Greece’s gov’t bonds was pretty shitty and a big risk in 2012.

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  Shakes His Head
7 years ago

Heil Hillary

GMHeller
GMHeller
7 years ago

How exactly do Bill and Hillary Clinton, who have repeatedly claimed to have had almost no assets when they left the White House in 2001, end up in control of a foundation, the aptly named ‘Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation’, for which total assets at the close of 2014, according to the organization’s own IRS Form 990, amounted to $354,190,170?
It is clear that Bill and Hillary have sold their respective ‘offices’ and continue to do so.
Is a person who sells office worthy of being elected to even higher office?

Mad Trapper
Mad Trapper
Reply to  GMHeller
7 years ago

GM,

The Clinton Crime Foundation only donates about 5% of what it takes in. What it takes in is due to influence pedaling and setting up crooked deals, and the Clintons know the worlds crooks well.

Have you seen the movie, or read the book Clinton Cash?

http://www.breitbart.com/clinton-cash-movie/

And that just seems to be a small pile of the mountain of dirt!

“To date, Hillary Clinton has yet to substantively answer a single question from the mountain of Clinton Cash questions that continue to pile up with each passing day.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/03/21-new-clinton-cash-revelations-that-have-imperiled-hillary-clintons-campaign/

GMHeller
GMHeller
7 years ago

SEE:
Clinton Foundation IRS Form 990 on Guidestar.org: http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2014/311/580/2014-311580204-0c3ee98d-9.pdf

The School Committee
The School Committee
7 years ago

Trump supporters want everything vetted except Trump.Dan you missed the FBI and congressional investigations on deleting emails.The Benghazi investigations were all over the news with Fox running it 24 hours a day for 2 years….also pay to play is a criminal description mantra that relaxes conservatives for well being.
So you think Holts questions were tough on your candidate…is he sensitive? Hillary can handle this stuff.Plus why is Trump winning in your polls if it was unfair….You do understand it all being saved till the last debate…

Wilson
Wilson
Reply to  The School Committee
7 years ago

Vetted for what? The things that Hillary is hiding make her unfit for office, the worst the Clinton machine can claim about Trump is that he isn’t that rich or that he hasn’t paid enough in taxes. No one cares!

The School Committee
The School Committee
7 years ago

Where are Trumps tax returns and foundation filing.

Pat
Pat
Reply to  The School Committee
7 years ago

He will release his returns when Hillary releases her 30,000 missing emails which by the way can always be recovered. Even in real life crime shows like Forensic Files deleted or even destroyed emails can be recovered despite the best efforts of criminals to get rid of them. There is obviously information in those emails that have nothing to do with yoga classes or her daughter Chelsea that Hillary wants to hide.

Dick Flimsy
Dick Flimsy
Reply to  The School Committee
7 years ago

Trump emailed them to Hillary

Really?
Really?
7 years ago

Really?

What was the question asked to get those results? Who lost the debate?

Every poll out says Cooked Hillary won.

Pat
Pat
7 years ago

Hillary was clearly coddled by the moderator so she could run around the rest of the week bragging about “Wow, did you see that debate last night?”. Yes, America did and they weren’t impressed with you Hillary. Hillary just listened to her buddies at MSNBC and CNN to determine whether she won or not. I thought she was so arrogant and it really is nauseating to watch her.

No questions on immigration either. I realize there are two more debates, but immigration is a BIG topic. The Syrian refugee issue should be a big topic as well since Obama is spreading at least 10,000 refugees across the country including here in Pittsfield with no guarantee of safety for the citizens of this country.

I just read another article about Paris, France last night. It seems that rather than assimilating to French society, the refugees are insisting on practicing their own customs such as praying in the streets and changing French society to their religious needs and traditions which in a secular society like France is definitely noticeable.

Lester Dolt
Lester Dolt
Reply to  Pat
7 years ago

What else would you expect from an NBC hack?

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
7 years ago

Maybe the water boy is coaching Trump’a post debate whining and sniveling.

Kate Dempsey
Kate Dempsey
Reply to  Shakes His Head
7 years ago

You never answered yesterday Torch, how many Syrian refugees are you allowing into your apartment? Or are you like the rest of the progressives? Welcome them in, but NIMBY?

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Kate Dempsey
7 years ago

Address me with respect and dignity, and you’ll get the same, boy.

I pointed out, Pittsfield isn’t the place for foreigners that have gone through enough stresses and uprooted from their homeland. The thugs, lowlife, developmentally disabled, addicted, feeble, lazy people that live in Pittsfield are locusts on the land.

Don’t worry, the Muslims aren’t going to blow you up, you are doing it to yourselves.

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  Shakes His Head
7 years ago

You might want to do something respectful and dignified Torch.

The School Committee
The School Committee
7 years ago

.We know the Clintons paid 3.6 million in income tax last year.Vetted.

Zylonite
Zylonite
Reply to  The School Committee
7 years ago

And how much did Trump pay? What? Oh yea, we don’t know.

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Zylonite
7 years ago

Who really cares?

LoneGunMan
LoneGunMan
7 years ago

Once again the city has denied a permit for a business that can more than likely drive up tax revenue and help patients.

No Medical Marijuana Dispensary at the old KFC. The comments were disgusting

“A commercial area is not the best place for it” – Haddad

Would he prefer we stick it in the residential zone? I mean it’s not as safe as a methadone clinic or anything.

Magic
Magic
Reply to  LoneGunMan
7 years ago

Maybe no one understands this is MEDICAL Marijuana not a drug house or a methadone clinic. The people going there are doing so under physicians care.

heh heh
heh heh
Reply to  LoneGunMan
7 years ago

Haddad did not want it and that is good enough to stop it in its tracks.

LoneGunMan
LoneGunMan
Reply to  heh heh
7 years ago

I think too many people are ignorant and fearful, therefore they compare it essentially to methadone clinics.

Go to Colorado or California and see what they are like. You can’t even tell they are there. Denver alone has a dispensary on every block almost. The only reason people congregate is because of the limit places to go. I’m told Dalton Ave is supposed to get 2 dispensaries, but then again the City and it’s boards are dragging their feet and putting up barriers.

Chronic Pain patients (yes there are legitimate ones!) have two choices: usually take addictive, life destroying opiates or go to the black market. Ironically, we are cracking down on opiates which simply drives them to heroin. Pain doesn’t subside just because the doctor says no more medicine!

ignorance breeds ignorance.

Zylonite
Zylonite
Reply to  LoneGunMan
7 years ago

“I certainly don’t want it as my next-door neighbor because of all the things that come with it,” O’Keefe said. Huh? What are the things that come with it?

LoneGunMan
LoneGunMan
Reply to  Zylonite
7 years ago

Probably idiots stumbling around in a [drunken] stupor like I’ve personally seen O’Keefe do for years. He’s an asshat. He hates marijuana because it apparently kills brain cells and since he lost all his over the years at the PNA he has none to give

Magic
Magic
Reply to  Zylonite
7 years ago

What comes with it.? They are secure buildings – you need ID’s to get in, you can’t bring anyone with you and you need a prescription. What is the problem Zylonite. By the way I’m not a kid 72, working, tax paying citizen

Thomas More
Thomas More
7 years ago

The winner of the debate was whichever candidate the viewer wanted to be the winner. Its clear that no one here, including Valenti, started in neutral. Dan admitted long ago he was on Trump’s bandwagon.

The School Committee
The School Committee
7 years ago

Fox news does the whole setup for the debate .Trump was an embarrassment…Fox says Lester Holt was too tough held his own or he won against all odds….what the heck were you people watching…he embarrassed his supporters by not even preparing.
Of course he had the Drudge report poll and every other silly poll DV referred to.

Bull Durham
Bull Durham
7 years ago

Come on, Dan, these polls you cite were ‘instant online surveys,’ and not done in any scientific manner. Easily people could vote dozens of times for their own candidate in these polls – all you have to do is clear your cache and go back in or use another browser. They have no relevance, especially the Breitbart poll. I’m only surprised those zombified Breitbart readers didn’t hit 100% for Trump.

Holt did a decent job. He didn’t go into the emails, true, and Trump also wasn’t asked about his phony foundation, which uses other people’s money to pay his debts, or his ever-more-evident financial ties to Russia, or why he keeps blaming NAFTA on the Clintons, when it was a guy named George HW Bush who first proposed it and supported it before he left office, and a Republican House and Senate, with Gingrich leading the charge to get it passed in Congress. Now Gingrich acts as if he had nothing to do with it.

Trump also repeatedly interrupted Clinton, which only hurt him, and that’s because he’s a five year old. He did NO prep for the debate whatsoever, even his closest advisers say that, and it hurt him. He thought he was back on stage with 15 others and could make one-line zingers at them and win the night, and a head-to-head is far more intense, as you know from hosting debates yourself. Clinton succeeded in baiting him, which was her plan all along, and it worked… and the ‘real polls’ when they come out soon will show that Trump lost support.

Mad Trapper
Mad Trapper
Reply to  Bull Durham
7 years ago

Maybe Holt could have asked about some of these?

; )

Trump and Hillary Clinton walk in to a bar.

Donald leans over, and with a smile on his face, says,
“The media is really tearing you apart for that Scandal.”
Hillary: “You mean my lying about Benghazi?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “You mean the massive voter fraud?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “You mean the military not getting their votes counted?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “Using my secret private server with classified material to Hide my Activities?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “Using the Clinton Foundation as a cover for tax evasion, Hiring Cronies, And taking bribes from foreign countries?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “Giving 123 Technologies $300 Million, and right afterward it Declared Bankruptcy and was sold to the Chinese?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “You mean arming the Muslim Brotherhood and hiring them in the White House?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “Whitewater, Watergate committee, Vince Foster, commodity Deals?”
Trump: “No the other one:”
Hillary: “Turning Libya into chaos?”
Trump: “No the other one:”
Hillary: “Being the mastermind of the so-called “Arab Spring” that only brought chaos, death and destruction to the Middle East and North Africa?”
Trump: “No the other one:”
Hillary: “Leaving four Americans to die in Benghazi?”
Trump: “No the other one:”
Hillary: “Trashing Mubarak, one of our few Muslim friends?”
Trump: “No the other one:”
Hillary: “The funding and arming of terrorists in Syria, the destruction and destabilization of that nation, giving the order to our lapdogs in Turkey and Saudi Arabia to give sarin gas to the “moderate” terrorists in Syria that they eventually used on civilians, and framed Assad, and had it not been for the Russians and Putin, we would have used that as a pretext to invade Syria, put a puppet in power, steal their natural resources, and leave that country in total chaos, just like we did with Libya?
Trump: “No the other one:”
Hillary: “The creation of the biggest refugees crisis since WWII?”
Trump: “No the other one:”
Hillary: “Leaving Iraq in chaos? ”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “You mean HHS Secretary Sibelius shaking down health insurance Executives?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “Giving our cronies in SOLYNDRA $500 MILLION DOLLARS and 3 Months Later they declared bankruptcy and then the Chinese bought it?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “The State Department interfering with an Inspector General Investigation on departmental sexual misconduct?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “Me, The IRS, Clapper and Holder all lying to Congress?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “Threats to all of Bill’s former mistresses to keep them quiet?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “You mean the INSIDER TRADING of the Tyson chicken deal I did where I invested $1,000 and the next year I got $100,000?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “You mean when Bill met with Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, just before my hearing with the FBI to cut a deal?”
Trump” “No, the other one.”
Hillary: ” You mean the one where my IT guy at Platte River Networks asked Reddit for help to alter emails?”
Trump” “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “You mean where the former Haitian Senate President accused me and my foundation of asking him for bribes?”
Trump” “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “You mean that old video of me laughing as I explain how I got the charges against that child rapist dropped by blaming the young girl for liking older men and fantasizing about them. Even though I knew the guy was guilty?
Trump” “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “You mean that video of me coughing up a giant green lunger into my drinking glass then drinking it back down?”
Trump” “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “You mean that video of me passing out on the curb and losing my shoe?”
Trump” “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “You mean when I robbed Bernie Sanders of the Democratic Party Nomination by having the DNC rig the nomination process so that I would win?”
Trump” “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “Travel Gate? When seven employees of the White House Travel Office were fired so that friends of Bill and mine could take over the travel business? And when I lied under oath during the investigation by the FBI, the Department of Justice, the White House itself, the General Accounting Office, the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee, and the Whitewater Independent Counsel?”
Trump” “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “The scandal where, (while I was Secretary if State), the State Department signed off on a deal to sell 20% of the USA’s uranium to a Canadian corporation that the Russians bought, netting a $145 million donation from Russia to the Clinton Foundation and a $500,000 speaking gig for Bill from the Russian Investment Bank that set up the corporate buyout?. That scandal?”
Trump” “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “That time I lied when I said I was under sniper fire when I got off the plane in Bosnia?”
Trump” “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “That time when after I became the First Lady, I improperly requested a bunch of FBI files so I could look for blackmail material on government insiders?”
Trump” “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “That time when Bill nominated Zoe Baird as Attorney General, even though we knew she hired illegal immigrants and didn’t pay payroll taxes on them?”
Trump” “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “When I got Nigeria exempted from foreign aid transparency guidelines despite evidence of corruption because they gave Bill a $700,000 in speaking fees?”
Trump” “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “That time in 2009 when Honduran military forces allied with rightist lawmakers ousted democratically elected President Manuel Zelaya, and I as then-Secretary of State sided with the armed forces and fought global pressure to reinstate him?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “I give up! … Oh wait, I think I’ve got it! When I stole the White House furniture, silverware, when Bill left Office?”
Trump: “THAT’S IT! I almost forgot about that one

Gigi
Gigi
Reply to  Mad Trapper
7 years ago

Well done Mad Trapper!

poorboy
poorboy
7 years ago

Here is the thing, Hillary Clinton did not even belong on that stage.
She stold the nomination from Bernie Sanders.
She is a proven pathological liar who will say and do anything to become president.
She has the FBI in her back pocket.
The news media is willing to lie for her at the expense of their own credibility. Firing anyone who even questions her health.
She is unfit to be president and the fact that she has parkinsons disease will become known in a short time.

God help us when they steal this election and install her as Queen.

The School Committee
The School Committee
7 years ago

Poor boy,you got to start doing some DD

poorboy
poorboy
Reply to  The School Committee
7 years ago

Attack the poster? Poser.

I do agree with you that we should elect Trump to:
Put an end to this global warming crap.
Put an end to this political correct bullshit.
Keep out right to own firearms.
Keep freedom of speech intact.
Stop all these terrorists from entering this country illegally.

The Hildabeast will indeed ruin this country.

The School Committee
The School Committee
7 years ago

The further you get away from Fox news the clearer you see.You brainwashing can be easily reversed and you’ll need anger management.

LoneGunMan
LoneGunMan
Reply to  The School Committee
7 years ago

It’s easy to denounce FOX, and for good reason. However, it’s sad how people don’t see this should apply to both CNN and MSNBC. At least FOX makes no bones about their right leaning ways. CNN claims they are non-partisan and non-biased and that couldn’t be father from the truth

who is really brainwashed?

Ghost Rider
Ghost Rider
7 years ago

Boy oh boy! The NIMBYs sure did a job on the marijuana dispensary on East St with their chicken little argument and stories from the book of MSU (Make Shit Up).
My winter city, pop 46,000, has a dispensary:
200′ from a car dealership, it’s next to a lawyers office, motel and Asian restaurant. It’s accross a 4 lane highhway from an ice cream shop, a candy store, a pizza parlor and an animal hospital AND within a quarter of a mile of 3 businesses with liquor licenses and the Boys and Girls Club AND has no traffic signal out front, not like the old KFC!
It’s all backed up by a densely populated residential area.
Guess how many times the Police have responded to the establishment in just over a year? TWO! Once for 2 disorderly persons inside and once for an attempted burglary, which was thwarted by it’s elaborate (required) security system!
Police respond to the local Wal Mart 5X that much in in a single day! The accident rate is nil, in fact, there are more accidents at the local grocery store parking lots on Senior Tuesdays!
And speaking of attracting unsavory elements, the price is so high (no pun intended) on commercially manufactured weed that it is cheaper to buy it on a side street!
It is really an “econmic engine,” to coin a hackneyed, Pitt-ho phrase. A tax base, permits required, employer, good neighbor and sustainable future.
But, Pittsfield doesn’t want that! Heaven forbid! They’d rather keep the marijuana use in the dark, much like they do to the citizens of the Pitt, treating them like mushrooms and feeding them bullshit!

southeast
southeast
Reply to  Ghost Rider
7 years ago

isn’t Dalton Ave, where two (not one – but two within about 1/2 mile) of these things will be located, a busier commercial street than East St near Haddad’s?

MIKE D
MIKE D
7 years ago

Anyone who thinks Trump won the debate need to have your eyes and ears and brains examined. I have a lot of issues wirth Clinton but when I go to the hospital for a brain operation i want a neurosurgeon doing the operation.. not a loud mouth blowhard. The country is in real trouble as is evidenced by trumps support. HE WILL LOSE THE ELECTION BY A LANDSLIDE VICTORY BY CLINTON. Dan you are soaking wet on this issue.I thought you were smarter than what you are showing and saying here but don’t worry you have your regulars on the planet who agree with you whether you are right or wrong.

Steven Andrews
Steven Andrews
Reply to  MIKE D
7 years ago

John, (Mike D), stop being such a poser

heh heh
heh heh
7 years ago

Why in the hell would anyone want to be president? It is an almost 100% negative experience.

Thomas More
Thomas More
Reply to  heh heh
7 years ago

Their ego. The same reason people want to be mayor or on the council. Watch a council or school committee meeting and try to stay interested. They are usually long dreadful meetings. Add that to two to 3 other sub-committee meetings as well as attending every public event and stag party. After that your blasted by the 50% of the people who don’t agree with your vote. Who do you think you’re going to get to take the job or jobs.

southeast
southeast
Reply to  Thomas More
7 years ago

actually – it’s the money. even ex-presidents rake in millions, have office allowances, get treated as “very important people”, and are welcome everywhere they go.

if you can tolerate 4 or 8 years of being crapped on, it is a lifetime of luxury.

Two Cents
Two Cents
7 years ago

In my opinion Trump won the debate because once again Hillary blew an opportunity to be presidential and speak to inspire Americans with a vision and a hope for the future. Instead, acting like a spoiled school girl making fun of the rich guy, while waiting for her limo ride home. But, what amazes me is that almost without fail Clinton supporters say that she was the clear winner while Trump supporters say he was clearly the winner. Which begs the question if a debate (or 3) can actually sway votes.

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  Two Cents
7 years ago

Horrid Hillary tries to appeal to low information left wing dings

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  12 Gauge
7 years ago

Your mom is a wing ding

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  Shakes His Head
7 years ago

Ho did you know that she’s a Democrat?

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  12 Gauge
7 years ago

She whispered it in my ear

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  12 Gauge
7 years ago

Torchy, you cad

MrG1188
MrG1188
7 years ago

I continue to be dumbfounded by Drumpf’s support. Time magazine writers and correspondents ALL said Hillary “won” and that Trump was severely outgunned and outclassed, yet the poll they conducted gives Trump a wide margin of victory. He really does have rabid supporters, and the poll was beyond completely unscientific, but there are people out there who think he won. I don’t get it. Someone above said the only thing that can be held against him are that he isn’t rich and hasn’t paid enough taxes. There is SOOO much more that can be held against him. I can’t imagine a single woman or minority, or indeed anyone with less than several million dollars voting for him, yet Don King and even our own Pat are supporters. Hillary meanwhile has been investigated, even persecuted, by the very best we have; the FBI, CIA and Congress among them and nothing has even been found. I’m mystified.

LoneGunMan
LoneGunMan
Reply to  MrG1188
7 years ago

Because the most trustworthy of people work for the CIA, FBI and Congress.

Comey admitted he never denied Hillary did what she was accused of. He just played his way with words like a lawyer would.

Wake up

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  MrG1188
7 years ago

Horrid Hillary makes anyone look good.

The School Committee
The School Committee
7 years ago

Trump seemed ignorant plain and simple….ignorant on everything.Do Trump supporters think he is normal?

Kathy Yawn
Kathy Yawn
Reply to  The School Committee
7 years ago

Not as normal as you

poorboy
poorboy
7 years ago

The first order of business of the Donald Trump Adminstration should be to put Hillary Clinton on trial. There is more than enough evidence to put her in prison for the rest of her life.

The second thing President Trump should do is seize the funds of the corrupt Clinton foundation. Use the money to repair the roads and bridges in America.

Thirdly he should write executive orders nullifying every single executive order ever written by Bush/Obama.

End NAFTA and stop TPP.
End Obamacare.
Do whatever is necessary to make it attractive for companies to return operations to the United States. Thus employing American workers.

Indeed, he should hit the ground running to make America great again.

Gigi
Gigi
Reply to  poorboy
7 years ago

Right on, Poorboy!

Dilly Dally
Dilly Dally
7 years ago

Welcome back Heller.

Vibrant Collaborator
Vibrant Collaborator
Reply to  Dilly Dally
7 years ago

What about Kotter?

The School Committee
The School Committee
7 years ago

Yes ..it is easy to denounce fox tv.

Pat
Pat
Reply to  The School Committee
7 years ago

Extremely easy to denounce MSNBC and CNN. I also hate that show Morning Joe. The two hosts, especially Mika, are so annoying. She earns over a million dollars a year and thinks she speaks for the poor people of the country by going crazy over Hillary. She is just an out of touch wealthy liberal who lives in a completely different world from the rest of us.

Vibrant Collaborator
Vibrant Collaborator
Reply to  The School Committee
7 years ago

FOX lets way too many moonbat liberals on the air.

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Vibrant Collaborator
7 years ago

What the F do you idiots do where you sit around and watch that garbage all the time?

Kathy Yawn
Kathy Yawn
Reply to  Shakes His Head
7 years ago

Torch you’re funny

Steven Andrews
Steven Andrews
Reply to  Shakes His Head
7 years ago

John not nice !

Kathy Yawn
Kathy Yawn
Reply to  Vibrant Collaborator
7 years ago

VC, I agree

Pat
Pat
7 years ago

I stand by my claim that Hillary’s emails can be found. Even though she used every method out there to delete them if the State Department wanted access to them, they could get all of them. It just shows that this government is covering for Hillary since she is the presidential candidate. I want no part of such a corrupt system.

H
H
7 years ago

Keep the hell out of her e mails.

Ron Kitterman
Ron Kitterman
7 years ago

We’ve been pummeled for 2 1/2 years on Hillary and 2 years with Donald, our minds are made up but the media is hopeful there is this 20% of undecided voters out there that never heard about Benghazi, emails, and the multiple lies she has told. Its a race to the bottom. Hillary’s strongest suit is Trump and Trump’s is Hillary. We’re screwed.

Gigi
Gigi
7 years ago

In this election, we are voting for either globalism (Clinton) or nationalism (Trump). Globalism is one-world government, one- world currency, one-world religion, etc. In order to achieve one-world government – there can be no superpower nations like the U.S. Hence, the globalists want to break down our borders, infiltrate us with immigrants from third world countries (“multi-culturalism), and in general, create chaos. A good read is Ann Coulter’s “Adios America.”

So how ya gonna vote?
Trump for President!

Pat
Pat
Reply to  Gigi
7 years ago

I’ll vote for Trump. Hillary is just too flawed for me. I don’t like the direction she wants to take this country. One world government will give rise to a dictator. We are much better off if we maintain our individuality as people and as countries.

MrG1188
MrG1188
Reply to  Gigi
7 years ago

Dear Lord help us.

mi
mi
7 years ago

Tell your Daughters,if they enter Beauty Pageants and win,they have to keep slim or Doald will call them a Fat Pig.

El Chapo
El Chapo
Reply to  mi
7 years ago

Doald sucks.

Panda
Panda
7 years ago

There is still a deep and pervasive belief that Hillary Clinton is extremely corrupt, inherently untrustworthy, and will certainly destroy the nation (somehow?) if she was elected.

A large chunk of the electorate believe this so strongly, that the lesser of two evils to them is for Trump to win erase all of the United States’ international credibility while undermining all of the progress we have made in the past 8 years. Staunch Bernie-or-Bust supporters feel they would rather elect Trump, hoping for him to be obstructed for 4 years, while the Democratic party “resets” around a new candidate.

Why, when electing Hillary is how we can properly leverage the strides we have made since 2008 in order to fuel job creation, address healthcare costs, retune our foreign policy, and put America on a trajectory that leaves our children and their children with something to look forward to.

If a Hillary detractor could point me towards her deep corruption and/or track record of destructive lies that makes her unelectable, I would be grateful. Preferably stories that are not centered around emails, the well-doing Clinton Foundation, or Benghazi because investigations into those allegations have already proved fruitless.

Steven Andrews
Steven Andrews
Reply to  Panda
7 years ago

Those stories are all you need. Your comments are the equivalent of saying “so other than that Mrs. Lincoln how did you enjoy the play”