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JIM SHULMAN SETS THE RECORD STRAIGHT: THE CAROUSEL DID NOT TAKE ONE PENNY OF TAXPAYER MONEY, JUST AS THE PLANET REPORTED

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BY DAN VALENTI

PLANET VALENTI NEWS AND COMMENTARY

Second of Two Parts

(FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE, WEDNESDAY JULY 6, 2016) — As the culmination of our coverage of the Berkshire Carousel, THE PLANET presents an exclusive: the definitive account from the creator himself, Jim Shulman:

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About 18 years ago my wife, Jackie, and I attended the Williams College graduation of our nephew. The commencement speaker was the late Christopher Reeve, who was in a wheel chair, speaking in between deep breaths. (He had been paralyzed from a horse-riding accident). His message to graduates was about having a strong base, a solid support system and how that is important throughout life. The message hit me as I realized what a great experience I had growing up in Pittsfield and the Berkshires after WWII. The community was my support base.

Growing up in Pittsfield in the 50s and 60s, none of our families had a lot of money. Our parents had experienced the Great Depression as well as the recent war. In a way we were all poor, but there were hardly any families that didn’t have at least one parent working, and everyone shared a sense of optimism. We were all rich in the love and support we got from our community. Yes we had great support in this community. We were safe and secure, we could walk or ride our bikes anywhere, never locked our doors, we had good schools, seven movie theaters, clubs, Scouts, day camps, parks, play grounds, parades, sports, beaches, a wonderful shopping area, buses that took us all over, a great library and museum, festivals and much more.  Yes, Pittsfield was unquestionably my base, my great support system. I loved growing up here.

As I listened to Christopher Reeve speak, I pictured how much my hometown had changed in the 35 years since I graduated Pittsfield High School. It was no longer the safe, prosperous city it had been. The North Street shopping district had been replaced by an out of town mall and nearby shopping centers. The major employer, GE, downsized and unemployment was at an all-time high. Crime and drug addiction were on the rise, with the jail and rehab centers becoming bigger. PCB pollution was all over the community. Worst of all, however, was the negativism and pessimism I never experienced as a kid. People were bad mouthing everything and not willing to do much about improving things.  Thinking about this, as new retiree, I felt I wanted to do something to help the town and the people who gave me the support base and the opportunities that opened doors to college and a career.

For several years, I thought about possibilities and talked with local residents about  potential projects. I saw the efforts to restore the decaying downtown theaters and introduce art to the City. These were admirable but costly and did not involve everyone in the community. I wanted to do something that could bring together workers and family members who were impacted by the loss of the GE, artists who were left out of the community’s art initiatives, and in general folks who were quick to criticize the community but clueless on how to improve it. I was also sensitive to a growing feeling that everything to improve the city was costing the taxpayers and the number of taxpayers was diminishing.

Twelve years ago on a trip back East from our Ohio home, we visited the New England Carousel Museum in Bristol, CT, and it hit us that we could initiate a community project that would meet the goal of bringing people together. There is something magical about a carousel, the movement, figures, art, colors and music. Jackie suggested we bring folks together to hand carve a carousel. It was a novel idea, but I was not a craftsman nor an artist and had no idea where to begin. The next year, I read every book and old publications on carousels that I could find, visited carousels and carousel makers, and finally took a basic five-day carving course. Five months later I finished carving a horse that I named Obie for O. B. Joyful.  I felt if I could do it, then people in the Berkshires could do the same.

I presented the project to over fifty people in the Berkshires including Pittsfield’s Mayor, a councilor, bankers, business leaders, artists, retirees, former GE workers, and more.  There was a lot of interest, but knowing that the museum, two theater restorations, and  a new cinema had been granted local economic stimulus funds, many said there would be no government funds and donors may be tapped out.  I made it clear we would not ask for city monies to build the carousel. I was also clear that we would need help in grant and foundation procurement and private donations to build or rehab a building to house the carousel. This would allow it to operate year round for its sustainability.

Encouraged, Jackie and I embarked on the project and funded its development, operations, and staffing. We purchased the land on Center Street  for the carousel building.  Although we felt positive about Pittsfield’s  leaders’ support and willingness to  help us succeed, it did not happen. This led to our being courted by other communities that graciously provided workshop space for low rents. We did not locate elsewhere due to unsuitable locations, high rents, or lack of funding to build or renovate a building. The Massachusetts Cultural Council (MCC), which distributes discretionary funds for capital construction projects related to the arts, awarded the Berkshire Carousel, a non profit (501-c-3) organization, a matching grant for $250,000 for its building. (The grant would have gone to a project elsewhere in Massachusetts.) This was NOT for building the carousel that Jackie and I agreed to back. Incidentally, we never asked the City of Pittsfield for a penny. The State’s match was met privately. Also we never asked for a TIF for the land. We personally paid taxes on it for eight years, unsure of whether the carousel would be located there. The only other governmental monies the project is receiving is $25,000 from the state. We are thankful for this support and have kept true to our promise that we would not use governmental dollars for the creation of the carousel itself.

Doing the carousel totally as a grassroots project has taken twice as long as projected (11 years) and twice as much in costs ( approximately $1.5 million).  The land costs and the first phase building construction have cost nearly as much with private donations and some  in-kind construction services building on the MCC grant. The project has cost approximately $3 million over 11 years involving 400 volunteers. They have a great legacy and will make countless children and adults smile as they ride and appreciate the art created by those volunteers. And no, we will never make a penny from the project that has been a retirement gift.

People have asked us if we were excited during the opening. Yes, we were, but equally excited each time we visited the Berkshires and saw the great volunteers share their optimism as they created a small community to do something good for their larger Berkshire Community and for other communities to which they have donated their time and craft.

I understand there are residents (and a few readers of THE PLANET) who are cynical or negative about the Berkshire Carousel. This very pessimism and negativity is what inspired us to initiate this gift to the community. Although I cannot change perceptions, I only ask those folks how they personally can improve their community as opposed to continuously tearing it down.

I also know many believe the carousel is just an amusement ride. It is lastly about a ride. First it’s about the creation of a sub-community creating a legacy, giving back to the larger community. Second it is about art in a city defining itself as a cultural center. The carousel has 33 carved/sculpted figures (40 in toto) and at least 60 original paintings on it. The figures are modeled after the works of the 20 most famous carousel artists  in the US from 1880-1930, many who were already  known for the carvings of churches and synagogues. The Berkshire Carousel is said to be the first classical wooden carousel carved in Massachusetts in 100 years and the largest permanent art project ever  done in New England by volunteers.

As The Grateful Dead would say, it’s been a long strange trip — But a grateful one for me to give back to my base.

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 This tale has a happy ending. Let the carousel bring joy and smiles while official Pittsfield keeps going around in circles.

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“Create around [yourself] at least a small circle where matters are arranged as [you] want them to be.”Anna Freud.

“OPEN THE WINDOW, AUNT MILLIE.”

LOVE TO ALL.

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12 Gauge
12 Gauge
7 years ago

I’m not understanding how 250K isn’t tax money.

Carolyn Barry
Carolyn Barry
Reply to  12 Gauge
7 years ago

It is tax money. I pointed that out to Mr. Shulman on facebook 2 years ago. He didn’t like the truth and blocked me.

Still Wondering
Still Wondering
Reply to  Carolyn Barry
7 years ago

Who cares what a nay-sayer thinks. We are done with you. We realize that you will never understand.

Carolyn Barry
Carolyn Barry
Reply to  Still Wondering
7 years ago

I understand that the horses are beautiful, I admire the spirit of the group. I felt bad that the Lanesborough selectman, who went to bat for the group, had to find out by reading the Eagle that the group had turned to Dalton. I felt bad for the people that donated to keep it downtown and then changed locations to Lanesborough that money wasn’t going to be refunded.. I felt bad for the town of Dalton that went to bat for them. There were still some grumblings of people in Dalton trying to get money back a few months ago. It’s called common courtesy. I congratulate them on the opening, but the group burned a lot of bridges getting there.

dusty
dusty
Reply to  Carolyn Barry
7 years ago

I feel bad for anyone with an incurable case of hemorrhoids.

Felix
Felix
Reply to  Carolyn Barry
7 years ago

Carolyn you are sincere I believe but simply mistaken. Jim burned no bridges and asked for no extraordinary help from the public till.

Just accept a good thing when it happens. That’s no so hard is it?

Felix
Felix
Reply to  Carolyn Barry
7 years ago

Jim didn’t take a penny of public money for the carousel itself. He got a little bit for infrastructure but certainly not the Golden Handshke like Stanley got at the Beacon of the $750,000 Workshop Live got or the countless dollars Nuklea got. Each of those were money losers. There are a bunch of others that took the money and ran.

Carolyn Barry
Carolyn Barry
Reply to  Felix
7 years ago

Not mistaken Felix. Do your homework. I received a lot of positive feed back on my comment. Grant money comes from taxpayers. I agree the Beacon never should’ve gotten money (along with Spice and HON). The city should look into getting money back from Nuclea. A grant is a grant though. No matter how much lipstick you put on a pig, it’s still a pig. I’m glad the carousel is putting smiles on kids faces.

C. Trzcinka
C. Trzcinka
Reply to  12 Gauge
7 years ago

The $250,000 grant is tax money but it is not a gift like the tax abatement for the Cinema. Jim says he will pay it back so its a loan.

Jonathan Melle
Jonathan Melle
7 years ago

I am very impressed with Jim Shulman and his family’s positive message for Pittsfield. This is exactly what Pittsfield needs to move past its (Gerry Doyle) debacle after Jack Welch’s GE left town with only its fraudulent Consent Decree left behind.
We need people to love their community and vice versa.
Despite Jim Shulman’s awesome beliefs in Pittsfield, I still believe Pittsfield politics is part of the problem! But, people like Jim Shulman can overcome the vested interests that have drove Pittsfield into the proverbial ditch.
– Jonathan Melle

Counting Pennies
Counting Pennies
7 years ago

Thank you Mr. Shulman and the many volunteers. Your gift to our city is heartfelt and greatly appreciated. For those of you who haven’t been down there yet, I recommend you do. The carousel is truly a masterpiece that will be enjoyed by the young and old long after our lifetimes.

spagirl
spagirl
Reply to  Counting Pennies
7 years ago

There cannot be enough admiration and accolades for what the Shulman’s have accomplished. No politics, No greasing palms, pure devotion and drive, with an all Volunteer team to bring it to fruition. This is an American inspiration done right!!! Congratulations to Jim!!

Ghost Rider
Ghost Rider
7 years ago

Jimmy has injected into the City a carousel non pareil to Holyoke, Hartford, Providence, Warwick and other iconic venues. May his work be not undone!

Ghost Rider
Ghost Rider
7 years ago

It is with heavy heart that I submit this comment.
After 58 years of watching the 4th of July parade, that’s from 6 years old and 1 year missing it because of the measles, I can say that it’s time to retire it!
It is the same fare, repeated ad nauseum!
Now, I know the naysayers will be up in arms over this but look at the big picture!
Downtown used to full of people for the parade! The other day, you could find a space anywhere! The cost to operate the parade, Police & Public Works, is wasteful! The income result to the City and vendors (mostly from out of state) is negligible, except for the permit fees.
What happened to the massive parade, the carnival, the Fireman’s muster, the drum & bugle competiton and the beautiful and antimated fireworks at night?
I cried the year I couldn’t go to the parade because of the measles and sat next to the open window to hear the bands and sirens.
Give it a break, don’t embarass the City anymore. Communities can still celebrate, a la Halloween. Keep the City out of it and leave it to the populace to do as they see fit in their neighborhoods.
FYI, far from being a curmudgeon, I was strategically involved in the 4th festivities in the ’90’s, when it was FUN FOR ALL!
And, as far as people on this site see fireworks as the work of the Devil (Hi Pat!), leave it be……………………!

spagirl
spagirl
Reply to  Ghost Rider
7 years ago

I hear you to a point……. however, to a 3 year old, the Parade was everything and more.

southeast
southeast
Reply to  spagirl
7 years ago

this 55 year old loves parades too.

Pat
Pat
Reply to  Ghost Rider
7 years ago

I am not a parade person. Even as a child, I really didn’t like parades, but many children and adults love them. I think a carnival or community barbecue would be a great idea for Pittsfield at the 4th of July and a smaller scaled down parade. I went to a 4th of July barbecue that was held in a Williamstown school years ago. It had a bonfire and so much delicious food. It was so memorable and it was one of the best 4th of Julys I ever had. Sadly this particular school no longer has this event. Let’s recreate this here in Pittsfield next 4th of July.

I don’t think fireworks are the work of the devil, only if they are overdone and people who don’t know what they are doing use them. I visited friends in Enfield, CT one year and they had a really great celebration of the 4th of July there. Rather than people setting off fireworks in their backyards all over the city, they had a 45 minute fireworks display. Their was food everywhere and vendors selling all kinds of different items throughout the city. I don’t remember a parade, but it wasn’t needed. We just started walking throughout the city exploring all of the endless variety. It was a really magical experience.

Pat
Pat
Reply to  Pat
7 years ago

Sorry, I meant there was food everywhere, not their.

Voltaire
Voltaire
Reply to  Pat
7 years ago

AS for Fireworks…. I appreciate the Pittsfield Suns organization for providing the fireworks. However, can they schedule the fireworks at a set time frame and take a break in the game .. Monday night I walked up and down Wahconah street in Pittsfield and felt sorry for all the kids and families waiting hours for the game to end and fireworks to start..

AV
AV
Reply to  Voltaire
7 years ago

I was also walked on Wahconah for couple hrs. same as last year. If the game is tied in seventh inning they should do the fireworks during stretch then go back to game.

Gigi
Gigi
Reply to  Ghost Rider
7 years ago

Ghost Rider,
I’ve lived here in Pittsfield for over 30 years, and I can also remember the huge crowds lining the streets to watch the parade. I remember having to get up at 6 am to make sure I had set up my front row chairs along the parade route. This fourth, my husband and I wandered downtown around 9 and were able to easily secure front row seats. Of course, the city’s population has dramatically decreased in the last 20 years – meaning fewer crowds and less parade funding. I thought the parade was much better than last year’s, and we enjoyed being there. Also, the parade committee did bring back the drum & bugle corps competition after an absence of 10 years. 1400 people were in attendance. So I would say congratulations to Pete Marchetti and the Parade Committee – I think they did a fabulous job with limited funding!!

heh heh
heh heh
7 years ago

Thank you so much Jim and Jackie Shulman and all the wonderful people who helped with this project.

dusty
dusty
7 years ago

Though I have absolutely nothings else good to say about the Berkshire Eagle I will say that they have recently given this project good press. It is uncharacteristic of them so that makes me suspicious but for now I will say they did a good job helping to promote it. Hope the coverage was free.

Paul
Paul
7 years ago

This was a wonderful project. The dedicated volunteers should be proud. Pittsfield should be grateful that Jim had a vision.

Really?
Really?
7 years ago

Really?

Jim admits he took $275,000 in state funds, first reported here on the Planet by yours truly.

How is this not taxpayer dollars?

Has Dan lost it?

dusty
dusty
Reply to  Really?
7 years ago

It is nice to see a grant go to someone other than connected special interest people for a change.

Really?
Really?
Reply to  danvalenti
7 years ago

Really?

Dan, the point is that there were taxpayer dollars used. That is a fact and to sate otherwise is disingenuous.

The type of grant and how it was applied for doesn’t matter.

I support the project and think what they did was great. Lets just be honest about the whole thing.

As for not asking for City funds, that looks like a lie as well.

I remember them asking Mayor Bianchi for funds. It was in the paper. They also wanted to locate in the Common, another ask to use taxpayer dollars.

I think Mayor Bianchi offered them like $250,000, but wanted the Board to resign and he would appoint his cronies to run the operation. Good for Jim for turning him down.

I also vaguely remember an ask of the Ruberto administration. But I can’t say for sure on that one.

I’m not being negative, just telling the truth.

southeast
southeast
Reply to  Really?
7 years ago

The problem is that when we don’t like something or someone, the “narrative” or story is irrelevant. The same is true of tax dollars.

But when something good comes along, it seems the story is important.

In fact, it really isn’t – except good was done.

The simple fact is that as is constantly said on this blog: a tax dollar is a tax dollar is a tax dollar., The school money from the State also would have gone to another community, yet since most of us do not support or see the need for a new THS – that point is irrelevant.

AS a 501-c-3, I presume the carousel will not pay property (or any other type of) taxes. That is dollars that like a TIF, will be paid y all of us. Unlike a TIF, this never ends.

Like Really? and many others, I think the carousel is nice.

But the reality is – some of this is coming at my expense. Compared to some other things which come at my expense, this one has my support.

dusty
dusty
Reply to  southeast
7 years ago

If this is your biggest problem of the day you are better off than most. Take a chill pill and go watch the kids have fun. It may make you feel better about the whole thing.

If I had been the mayor I would have given them a huge chunk of that GE money without them even asking for it. (remember Ruberto gave Hancock Shaker Village a half million of it and they spent it on other than they said they needed it for)? And they are not even in Pittsfield. Most of the rest was wasted. I think it says a lot about Pittsfield city government the way they manhandled and mishandled this whole thing. big surprise.

C. Trzcinka
C. Trzcinka
Reply to  danvalenti
7 years ago

Berkshire Carousel is clearly a labor of love. It cost $3 million which was partly financed with a $250K loan and $25k gift. The remaining was financed by the Shulmans or friends or the gifts of volunteers. It is a wonderful example of a community pulling together to build an art object for families. It reminds me of the carousel at Pontoosac Lake when I was a kid. Like Jim, I remember a strong community supporting all of us kids where I could bike to either lakes safely and swim all day.
I hope the Shulmans continue to apply for whatever grants are available to keep this going. I’ll be riding it as soon as I get back. Thanks so much for caring…

Pat
Pat
7 years ago

Iberkshires also ran an article on the carousel. I have been to the New England Carousel Museum in Bristol, CT. I always wished this area would have something as magical and now we do. Thank you Jim and Jackie Shulman and everyone involved with this project.

Mr. X
Mr. X
7 years ago

The parade is for the kids…I attended one out of town and there was thousands of kids enjoying every minute

poorboy
poorboy
7 years ago

“However far we travel
Wherever we may roam
The center of the circle
Will always be our home”

– John Lennon/Cleanup time

H
H
7 years ago

Next year we should all go down to, or up, to the Gated Commune and have a block party, the C C can use some of the Free Cash for hot dogs and beer. Bring your own fireworks.

Miss Vito
Miss Vito
7 years ago

I will never see the inside of the Carousel.. But am very impressed with the work that Mr. Shulman and Volunteers have performed.. The Berkshire Mall could have been the venue, thanks to Jim, it ended up here. I am afraid of the location, only because of the history of that area, you have vagrants, druggies, muggers, loitering of all kinds and vandals.During the day it should be alright, it’s the night and overnight where it needs to be closely monitered. Let’s hope they have people that can monitor it,or volunteers from the neighborhood to keep an eye on it. Good job Jim!

dusty
dusty
Reply to  Miss Vito
7 years ago

The good news is that since Stanley was thwarted in his attempt to get his hands on it the kids don’t have to worry about their little knapsacks being turned inside out as they climb on their ponies. And that should make every parent happy.

Thomas More
Thomas More
7 years ago

Been watching the construction on North at the Y and in front pf the little business in the Melville Block. What took 4 days in front of Hotel on North has been going on for three weeks with no sign of coming to an end. The sad thing is that when HON is elderly housing or apartments those stores will still be going. The four shops in the Melville block see more foot traffic in an hour than Dory & Ginger entertains in a week.

Ghost Rider
Ghost Rider
7 years ago

“The parade is for the kids.” Riiiigggghhhhtttt! With a 15 minute attention span I’m sure they appreciated the politcos and banners pimping businesses!
The Chesterfield parade had goats, tractors and cattle paraded through town and “the kids” loved that, too!
85,000 bucks “for the kids?” March the MSPCA and Sonsini shelter down North Street followed by a sanitation truck and “the kids” would be happy, as long as Mom & Dad (or Mom & boyfriend or Dad & girlfriend de jour) buy them overpriced junk from out of town vendors!
And hows about those fireworks, eh? Bring “the kids” who are scared to death and scream bloody murder or are shut out from the experience by having to wear ear protection.
I really used to like parades, when they had floats that reflected the American way and were extremely detailed. Not like the cob jobs of today.
People need to start looking at these po-dunk events and consider the worth. $85,000 of strong armed money (read donations) plus Police and Public Works holiday OT (read taxes) because it’s “for the kids.”
Gimmee a large break!
I live in a military town. There is no 4th of July parade. There is a pet parade on a side street and the highlight is a chili competition and bounce castles for “the kids.”
It is capped off by fireworks that are lit by people; not electronically fired and synced to music, but the residential displays are much better, and no one complains (Pat).
“The kids” seem to enjoy it, as long as they can have their balloons, hot dogs and novelties.
All of the events in Pitt-ho need to be re-examined. First Night, the Halloween parade (it will be phased out due to political correctness anyway) and the Memorial & Veteran’s Day parades (so-called) and they are plaqued by ignorance and/or apathy.
Quote “And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda”
“And now …….I sit on my porch
And I watch the parade pass before me.
I see my old comrades, how proudly they march
Reliving their dreams of past glory.
I see the old men, all twisted and torn.
The forgotten heroes of forgotten wars.
And the young people ask me, who are the they
marching for?
And I ask myself the same question.”
In this era of austerity, parades need to be phased out!

dusty
dusty
Reply to  Ghost Rider
7 years ago

I hear what you are saying. Makes a lot of sense.

Anyone else have pets that go absolutely bullshit when the 3 day shock and awe fireworks start?

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  dusty
7 years ago

It is not as if the Parade Committee touts leadership and success of a local politician.

Pat
Pat
Reply to  dusty
7 years ago

It’s not just the pets, I have family members in my house that go insane when the fireworks start going off. Mainly it’s the duds that are the problem. Because these people are not fireworks experts they set off a lot of duds which make horrible loud noise and you don’t even get the benefit of seeing some pretty lights and colors. Also if the fireworks do not go up high enough into the sky, the are still burning when they come down. I have seen it on my street and have had damage to the roof of my car from people across the street doing a really bad job setting off fireworks.

K E Double L
K E Double L
Reply to  Ghost Rider
7 years ago

Excellent post, Ghost. The parade is a waste of money, most of it “strong armed” as you say. It’s actually to provide a political base of power for certain deadbeats who run and win office. No names. No need for names!

Dilly Dally
Dilly Dally
7 years ago

My dog is deaf, but he was a victim of the nonsense. He Still has his sense of smell, when there’s a skunk around he goes ballistic.

mi
mi
7 years ago

Last night on HANCOCK some a-hole road my bumper for about tenth of a mile, had to speed up, sorry Hancock Roaders but it was necessary

Mr. X
Mr. X
7 years ago

Lighten up GR…all I said was the parade I was at out of state was awesome…no fireworks…and us adults there took the time to explain who and why the vets marched for to the kids…and the streets were all clean as we left as everybody picked up after themselves…the town provided trash barrels and porta pottys…way to make a 2 hour parade a bad thing…chillax man

The School committee
The School committee
7 years ago

Im glad the project ended up where it started out ,its just that over the 11 years things got stupid pitting one town against another…in the end it got done bot dont change history .

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
7 years ago

I am afraid that even this substantial project will falter from poor location.

Bil Q
Bil Q
7 years ago

an idea for Hancock Road Nightmare..put in one of those speed cameras, the road is an accident waiting to happen, unless it already has?

There seems to be a driving wild problem in Pittsfield.Wild drivers have some kind of problem that they have do not obey the laws and create problems for other drivers, the road rage laws are great but we need drivers to have the right to go the speed limit and cannot let the wild drivers rule the road. I have a couple of Stop Signs on my street and hardly any driver obey’s the signs.

Law enforcement needs to step up Citations to let wild drivers know this will to be tolerated.

The School committee
The School committee
7 years ago

People on this board are afraid of a carousel on center street…I learn something new everyday about pittsfield…I would never in a million years have guess a carousel crowd would be scary to someone.

Harlan Rinklenutts
Harlan Rinklenutts
7 years ago

Baton Rouge La. is under siege, bad goings on,

The School committee
The School committee
7 years ago

The parade today is fine .It is now the equivolent of alot of years and man hours to get a walmart on PEDA…..that the way it is in Pittsfield. Biotech is not coming to pittsfield and the hummers arnt coming to pittsfield

CosbiesLadies
CosbiesLadies
7 years ago

Let’s make it clear that during a city council meeting,when a councilor says approve for the sake of discussion, doesn’t mean you VOTE APPROVE????? another one is feel good parades and new hotels as well as grants and spending increases for schools,aren’t a confirmation of the majority of the taxpayers…….maybe Voters!

Amuso says we are all in this together, sort of sounds like the same spew each and every year…we need to change the way we do things and then votes yes for the school budget, what a phony. We are sick of it

mottso
mottso
7 years ago

Take it from me who studies everything that goes on in this city. The council and mayor were hood winked by the 4 SIGS who got every thing they wanted. Simonelli and Morandi put up a little resistance but they are lost also. Krol was the biggest dip. I am told someone very prominent is looking at his seat. For all you complainers–Watch the 6-16 CC meeting and come back and give your ratings as to who are the biggest buffoons on the council. Start with Tully and go upward. Really– seems to be the voice of Veracity. TRUTH IS TRUTH. Do not try to make black white- which occurs frequently on this site. REGARDLESS– kudos to the SHULMANS. Be brave do not be a coward and hide behind penn names. The squeeky wheel get the oil. HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE STOOD UP AT A CC MEETING OR ANY OTHER CITY GOVT. MEETING AND SPOKE YOUR MIND? TWO CITY RESIDENTS HAVE NO QUALMS TELLING THESE CITY GOVT. GOONS WHERe TO GO. Can you name them????

Really?
Really?
Reply to  mottso
7 years ago

Really?

Kinnas and the bat sh*t crazy guy.

Discreet Cat
Discreet Cat
7 years ago

Technically Really is correct, grants are taxpayer funded.

Really?
Really?
Reply to  Discreet Cat
7 years ago

Really?

Thank you.

Pat
Pat
7 years ago

I probably will not be voting for Michael Bloomberg after all. He is against the Super Walmart. I just signed a petition in front of Walmart this weekend saying that I want a super Walmart. He says that we can aggressively bring business into that area, but they have been saying that for a ridiculously long time and nothing has happened. A super Walmart would be a sure thing. So not sure I will vote for anyone. I definitely cannot vote for Farley-Bouvier that would be like voting for her royal highness Queen Hillary Clinton, she who can do anything and get away with it.

Really?
Really?
Reply to  Pat
7 years ago

Really?

You hit the nail on the head.

I was going to vote for him as well. I met him briefly, he also comes off as a know it all. He isn’t even 30 years old, but has all the answers.

I’m not voting in that race.

Shelly Liver
Shelly Liver
7 years ago

The African American Community as well as all Communities,should be outraged at the actions of the Officers in Baton Rouge. They’ve got a case here.

mottso
mottso
7 years ago

CAT- Not technically–positively. We all know you are not a coward. GOOD TO SEE YOU SPEAK YOUR MIND. you are in the minority on this site. PERHAPS OTHERS WILL FOLLOW YOU LEAD

Discreet Cat
Discreet Cat
7 years ago

Correct mottso, isn’t Mottso Ukraine for, I told you so. With that being said, and not to lessen the achievement by Jim Schulman,this almost seems like a labor of love of Carousels with a tinge of donations aside from the grant. You cannot really believe there isn’t some reward at the end of the rainbow? On these grant private projects like the Beacon for instance, did Mr. Stanley use his own Company ( if he had one) to do any of the work and was he ale to do this legally?

mi
mi
7 years ago

Snake salesman at the C D B,everything Old McDonald touches turns to gold. Love the Mustache counselor.
Why isn’t the project on Churchill requireccleaning the mess in the road, taxpayers don’t like driving in dirt, and the project hasn’t even been approved.

mi
mi
7 years ago

Fitzgerald is on the Zoning Board, he’s the real deal’ he’ll see right through this.
if the mess in the entry way on this Churchill Street project then how can we believe the Landscape proposal.

the neighbors should show up droves.

h
h
7 years ago

That’s prime property for homes and wildlife, stop this project! Before it gets started.

CosbiesLadies
CosbiesLadies
7 years ago

Well, he does have the best representing the proponent , should be interesting.

The School committee
The School committee
7 years ago

Mayor Liar

The School committee
The School committee
7 years ago

I just can not imagine this mayor having the guts to go to senior citizen home owners and ask for a vote….I can imagine a new mayor winning by telling people pittsfield high closes the year after taconic opens along with crosby building….add on to capeless and stearns….add on to williams…..she has gone away with no future plans but how do we do this next year….PHS will be a great assisted living building downtown…build a new police station on peda site with the bridge now open …

Nota
Nota
7 years ago

Weat Side Story.