GRUNIN OUT AS PEDA BOARD CHAIR; MICK CALLAHAN IN … HOSING DOWN THE PETULANT … ‘WEREWOLVES OF PITTSFIELD’ and OTHER LETTERS … plus … PEDA’s THURSTON SAYS ‘IT’S A DONE DEAL’ (BE NERVOUs, FOLKS. BE VERY NERVOUS)
By DAN VALENTI
PLANET VALENTI News and Commentary
ADD 1 FEB. 8, 2012
The Pittsfield Economic Development Authority met at the usual convenient time of 8 a.m. The most interesting aspect of the meetings is that — Voila! — Gary Grunin is out as the board’s chair. After a nationwide search, Mick Callahan, as good a GOB as there ever was, is in the chair. He led today’s meeting. Hmmm … we don’t recall getting the announcement of this. And we thought Mayor Dan Bianchi wanted transparency. What’s next? A political comeback for Angelo Stracuzzi?
The agenda from today’s meeting, which you can only find after a witch hunt on the city’s website (don’t bother looking on the PEDA site; that would be too logical) Lists:
* Executive Director’s Report — A sleepy overture meant to zap any living brain cells that might be working aomng the PEDA board.
* City Council Petition — Naturally, the agenda doesn’t provide any other information on the petition. They don’t want to start spoiling people, you know.
* Silver Lake Shoreline — WMECO transfer, Additional Property, EPA Amended PPA. Again, not another word of what this gobbledy gook means.
* Project Matrix — What project? What matrix? Project Blue Balls? Domi-matrix?
* Financial Report, Audit — This is where the Corydon Thurston reads fiction to the PEDA Board, a kind of bed time story to put them all to sleep. It ends, ” … all the money is where it should be, there was no evidence of graft, and they lived happily ever after.”
* Marketing Update, Web Site update, RFP for a full service ad agency — Marketing? Huh? You mean they engage in marketing the site? Web Site update: “It sucks.” Seeking bids for full-service ad company: There’s more of your money out the window.
* Meeting Calendar — NExt meeting scheduled for March 14, 2012. That is incorrect. There is another PEDA meeting scheduled for 8 a.m. Friday, Feb. 10.
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WEREWOLVES OF PITTSFIELD, A VIDEO AND OTHER LETTERS
We now dip into the mail bag again. We note that the Boring Broadsheet has yet, 61 days later (or is it 62?) to publish ONE letter, either way, on the Nilan-Moore Case. To the BB, the case doesn’t exist, except when the GOB tell it the case exists. If anyone wishes a barometer with which to judge the editorial integrity of the BB, this is it: Day 62 in Nilan-Moore, and NOT ONE LETTER.
Meanwhile here on THE PLANET, we get many cards and letters. Some are for our eyes only. Others are not suitable for publication. Yet even with that, we find a back log. Let’s try to whittle it down. We remind everyone that printing our “letter to the editor” does not necessarily imply agreement or endorsement of the positions stated or shown. The same goes for our comments section. To repeat a point made earlier, we passionately believe in allowing the most rousing free speech. Debate in the public square should be Rock ‘Em Sock ‘Em and not for the feint of heart. You just don’t yell “fire” in a crowded theater.
Our first letter, “Werewolves of Pittsfield,” is in the form of a video satire by STANLEY THE STOOLEY. Stanley is one of the multitudinous STOOLEY tribe that has kept THE PLANET in information for at least a couple of decades, now. Stanley’s talents do not lie in words but images, as in this takeoff and sendup of District Attorney David Capeless and Company. Again, in presenting a point of view, THE PLANET is not implying agreement.
We present the link here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfCk7Xv2Lxw&feature=bf_next&list=ULSJrieMY-1C8&lf=mfu_in_order
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Peer Moore: ‘His Absence is Sorely Missed’
Comments: Dan, One thing that is missing in the online bio of Peter Moore is that he has been a member of National Ski Patrol for many years. Volunteering at the now defunct Brodie Mountain and currently at Bousquet, where his absence is sorely missed.
He is always willing to render aid to any hurt snowslider even when not officially on duty. He has often stayed with a patient until the on-duty folks arrive lending a hand in what ever capacity happens to be needed.
There was a period of a month or so a few years ago that it seemed every accident we responded to on my shift — there was Peter skiing on his own time with his kids (children and friends) comforting a patient until we arrived.
I cannot imagine Peter coming across an injuried party without stopping to help.
I wish that had been the case in December rather than him having to fend for himself. — HAL
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HAL, we thank you for this letter. This confirms everything we’ve heard about Peter Moore. Now this one.
Is This Excerpt from Massachusetts General Law Applicable to Nilan-Moore?
Comments: Dan,
Below is an excerpt from the mass general laws that may be pertinent to the Nilan/Moore issue.
Note: paragraph “b”. I believe the clerk magistrate may have viloated the law by prohibiting the Moore’s access to the show cause hearing!
PART III COURTS, JUDICIAL OFFICERS AND PROCEEDINGS IN CIVIL CASES (Chapters 211 through 262)
TITLE IV CERTAIN WRITS AND PROCEEDINGS IN SPECIAL CASES
CHAPTER 258B RIGHTS OF VICTIMS AND WITNESSES OF CRIME
Section 3 Rights afforded victims, witnesses or family members.
Section 3. To provide victims a meaningful role in the criminal justice system, victims and witnesses of crime, or in the event the victim is deceased, the family members of the victim, shall be afforded the following basic and fundamental rights, to the greatest extent possible and subject to appropriation and to available resources, with priority for services to be provided to victims of crimes against the person and crimes where physical injury to a person results:
(a) for victims, to be informed by the prosecutor about the victim’s rights in the criminal process, including but not limited to the rights provided under this chapter. At the beginning of the criminal justice process, the prosecutor shall provide an explanation to the victim of how a case progresses through the criminal justice system, what the victim’s role is in the process, what the system may expect from the victim, why the system requires this, and, if the victim requests, the prosecutor shall periodically apprise the victim of significant developments in the case;
(b) for victims and family members, to be present at all court proceedings related to the offense committed against the victim, unless the victim or family member is to testify and the court determines that the person’s testimony would be materially affected by hearing other testimony at trial and orders the person to be excluded from the courtroom during certain other testimony. — DC
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Thank you, DC. We can’t say whether this would apply to the hearing undertaken by magistrate Nathan Byrnes. The hearing was a show-cause procedure and not a civil or criminal case. Perhaps one of our readers with a legal background could help out.
Contact BHS to Make an Announcement
I think you should contact the Health Systems and have them make an announcement on their web page with all the details. — A BHS Employee
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Since Peter Moore works there and is highly thought of by his colleagues, we hope this is the case. We would also invite BHS to contribute to the benefit for Peter.
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The REAL Pittsfield Benefit for Peter Moore
WHEN: 12:30 to 5 p.m., Sunday, Feb. 26.
WHERE: Chameleon’s, 1350 East St., Pittsfield Mass. 01201
WHY: A show of support on behalf of the innocent victim of a careless and callous driver
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Fiddling While Rome Burns
It’s appalling to report that while Peter Moore underwent his latest medical procedure this past Thursday, our erstwhile ‘Pinky Tuscadero’ is down in N’orleans celebrating Mardi Gras with her wealthy beau. —TS
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Capt. Moore Will Be Attending Fundraiser
Good Morning Dan:
Received your e-mail this morning and I am very pleased that your readers are planning a benefit for Peter. I plan on attending as I was able to obtain one of the last two tickets from Orlando to Hartford on Jet Blue. I look forward to meeting you and all the people of Berkshire County who have supported Peter through this very difficult time. Unfortunately, Susan will not be able to accompany me as she has a prior commitment for that weekend. Please keep my advised of event developments and of anything that I can do to help.
Tom Moore
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Capt. Moore, we shall do that, and we look forward to welcoming you to Pittsfield. We are trying to show Peter, Robin, their children, you, Susan, and all your family and friends that Pittsfield cannot and should not be characterized by the actions of a tiny, tony handful of people who think they can live, work, and play outside the rules the rest of us have to, and do, obey. You will see the REAL Pittsfield, the one made up of good people who are at their wits end at how their city has been nearly run into the ground by that microscopic bacteria known as the GOB.
‘Thanks for Staying on This Story’
Comments: Thank you for staying on this story. The Nilan’s are not above the law like they think. I’m sure you know how people fear being outcast for speaking up.
My family has been indirectly involved in the “circle of power” for years. However I can honestly say that we have stayed clear of any favors and misdeeds. I have witnessed multiple events over the years of how who knows who sweep things up. Keep up your good work. My family no longer is around the area but I still hear the goings on. The pay to play is coming to an end. She has to be held responsible. Thank you. — JN
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FEAR WILL NOT RULE THE DAY
JN: Yes, we know how fear plays a large element in allowing the corrupt to keep their stranglehold over the city. Practically every interview we’ve done in connection with this case — that is, among those who even agree to talk to us — is done on the condition of anonymity. We understand.
That being said, people have to make the choices that are best for themselves. Our choice has always been simple: At the end of the day, we have to look ourselves in the mirror. We have to answer for the choices we make. We choose the truth. We choose transparency. We choose the philosophy of our cowboy hero, Roy Rogers: “If a little guy’s in the right and he keeps a comin’, you can’t stop him.”
And we can say, love us or hate us, that we have attached our name to every opinion we’ve issued over our long career as a print, broadcast, and cyber journalist.
There are other letters that will be run in due time. We invite all comments on any issue. Address them to this blog or e-mail at danvalenti@verizon.net. Unlike other mainstream media, here at THE PLANET, we value your ideas and input.
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PEDA’s Thurston: ‘It’s a Done Deal” … Uh, Oh
On another note, we see where the remaining parcel of PEDA property has been turned over to the Authority by GE. This means, of course, that GE pays no taxes on the land. Smart move, eh? It also means that GE walks away after poisoning the property and a good chunk of the rest of the city, leaving Pittsfield with 100 years of Janitor-in-a-Drum strength industrial toxins.
Why is it that THE PLANET gets nervous anytime we hear a GOB like Corydon Thurston, PEDA executive director, say: “It’s a done deal.”
When Mayor Gerry Doyle said that about the city’s dealing with GE back in 1998, Pittsfield ended up with the consent agreement — a Swiss cheese document that essentially allowed GE to skip town, taking its jobs and leaving its poisons. GE gave the city $10 million and did some perfunctory cleanup of a spit of the Housatonic River. In exchange, Pittsfield got to keep:
* The five-foot layer of toxin at the bottom of Silver Lake. Under the consent agreement, this junk will not be removed. It simply will be capped with sand and allowed to leach into the groundwater, getting back into and re-poisoning the river. Our Right Honorable Good Friend councilor Melissa Mazzeo has pledged to fight this. We are awaiting an update on her progress. Still no word from Mayor Dan Bianchi on his plans.
* A huge underground water supply that has been rendered unusable for all time.
* Hill 78, a five-story high mountain of toxins within a pitching wedge of a grammar school.
* Unremediated PCBs scattered throughout the city, in unknown quantities and in unknown locations.
Thurston and the PEDA boys can talk about economic development all they want, but as long as Pittsfield remains content to leave well enough alone, no self-respecting capitalistic company will want to move to Pittsfield.
Dobro’s Story in BB Has Lots Between the Lines
In an article by our good friend Tony Dobrowolski of the BB, Thurston says, “Everything was in place. It was a matter of pushing the paper around.”
Uh, right.
Dobro’s article also has this paragraph about the final 16 acres: “The … plot … has been proposed as the site of a 170,000-square-foot shopping complex that could bring 150 jobs to the city and reinvigorate the Morningside neighborhood.”
This is the sort of stuff a talented reporter like Tony is required to put into news stories to keep the bosses happy. We suspect Tony holds his nose all the way through. The BB bosses, in turn, know that the GOB will be happy. Pleases the GOB Bosses means EVERYTHING to the BB Brass. Saying the complex “could” bring a million jobs and turn Morningside in to Nirvana is the same as saying it “could not.”
Thurston said the property transfer will now allow PEDA to close “agreements that are appropriate.” He’s referring to Waterston Development‘s plan to put a Dollar Tree (that’s what the smart money is saying) on the site. Just what Pittsfield needs: More service jobs that do not pay a livable wage.
Oh yeah, and there’s this gem: “[Thurston] characterized PEDA’s negotiations with both Waterstone and Action Ambulance … as being in the ‘very early stages.'” Action Ambulance: That’s the company brought into Pittsfield with the help of Gerry Doyle. Nuff said, except that former Speaker of the House Sal DiMasi, who’s now serving time in federal prison, once took the floor of the House shilling for Action Ambulance.
Pittsfield needs Action Ambulance like they need more hit-and-run drivers. With County Ambulance and the great (and better trained) crew of the Pittsfield Fire Department, first responders always, the city’s needs would have been covered.
File it under “A” for “Another GOB Sweetherat Deal.”
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THUS OUR MORNING MOVES ON. AH, OUR EYESIGHT IS PARCHED UP TO THE CINDERS, BUT THE SPIRITS SPEAK CHEERFULLY, THAT SO WE MAY AWAKEN THE COURAGE OF OUR FRIENDS.
“OPEN THE WINDOW, AUNT MILLIE.”
LOVE TO ALL.
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Nice point, and if PEDA were to seriously consider retailers, why not publically select a partner through a competitive RFP/RFQ process? That would allow a comparison of respondents along with perceived benefits and costs. Also, why not design/build a speculative building as an incubator that could rotate companies through over time?
Then again, the lack of professional land development expertise is somewhat glaring at the PEDA site. I think that if Pittsfield is still bullish on prospects, we could attract better than Waterstone, even if it ends up with retail.
as a follow up, maybe some of the attendees at the ICSC expo in Vegas could lend a little insight:
https://www.icsc.org/apps/attendee_list.php?region=&followed_search=yes&meeting=2012RECON&edit_id=&LastName=&FirstName=&Company=&state_codes%5B%5D=MA&submit=Search
DV, here is a cleaner, shorter link to the Capeless video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfCk7Xv2Lxw
it just boggles the mind that after all these yrs and incentives for the peda people to use, that negotiating with a dollar store and their low paying jobs is the best that they can do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.. this is not good folks… i do not see why we cant fire the bunch of them and get a team in there to sell that site. with the economy the way it is ill bet if an ad was placed there would be a great response for the jobs.
It’s curious that we keep seeing the phrase “reinvigorate the Morningside neighborhood” in articles about the PEDA retail complex. Since when is that an objective of the William Stanley Business Park? Since Cory Thurston discarded the master plan, apparently. And what does that phrase even mean? It seems to imply that the purported 150 new retail jobs are intended for the lower income residents of Morningside. What kind of leadership is that? Instead of helping residents develop skills to improve their lot in life we offer them more minimum wage options so they can work two or three jobs to stay alive. That’s not “economic development”, that’s just land liquidation. Remember, this is not a private venture. This is the Pittsfield Economic Development Authority. I expect more from them. I expect development that is consistent with the city’s master plan. I expect development that creates core jobs and improves the standard of living in our city.
Great points – I agree with them all. It boggles my mind that this city hasn’t learned a thing and the amount of secrecy that exists (yet again) — they promised us complete transparency, even put it in the master plan!!! Here we go again…
I couldn’t have said it better Mike. I always feel like it is just one big cover up over there. Dan reported that Gary Grunin is out as the board chair. I have always been specious of this person ever since he left the city council.
Grunin was one of the plow horses pulling the Civic Authority wagon. I lost all faith in him as a representative of the people after watching him try to put the screws to the citizenry. Then he gets rewarded with a cushy position on the PEDA gravy train. Whoda thunk it?
No response from Charley yet on the video? I just can’t wait to hear what he has to say this time! So while I wait, I’ll again say to him, “all it will take is for our DA to go to the media (or better yet right here!) and make a statement that assures the good citizens of Pittsfield that our criminal justice system is alive and healthy, and applicable to ALL, regardless of their or their relative’s positions. And again I will tell him that the good, decent, law-abiding and tax-paying citizens of this city have lost faith in our criminal justice system and are afraid and are STILL waiting for him to at least make a statement in an attempt to reinstill our faith in it. Day 62 and still no statement, either… But we do get, for our hard-earned money that pays this person’s salary, lots of put downs and insults from his office. We are treated like the scum of the earth that they are accustomed to dealing with in the course of prosecution. We are not those people! And we don’t expect to be treated that way by an elected official and/or his staff.
Personally, I want it explained why Mr. Moore, nor his attorney, were allowed at the show cause hearing. I want it explained exactly what the DA’s role in this case has been thus far — did he make it clear to the Ass’t Clerk Magistrate that he intends to prosecute this case? And to Judge Hadley? What, exactly, has been his role thus far and what decisions were his? Day 62 and counting…
Oh – and, of course, what was Judge Hadley’s decision?
Nancy/Molly,
Associate Justice Wm. Hadley has yet to release his decision in the Nilan matter, this according to the court clerk’s office as of this afternoon.
Thanks so much for letting us know.
Would a victim like Mr. Moore (or his attorney) normally sit in on a show cause hearing? If we’re going to go all conspiracy theory on this we should definitely look for inconsistencies.
If you were the victim in an accident that almost destroyed your life, wouldn’t you want either to be in attendance or at least to have your legal rep or relatives there to make sure justice were being done?
Molly quoted a section state law yesterday that appeared to guarantee a victim’s right at least to attend.
As I understand it, typically they are allowed to sit in. The magistrate has the decision, and usually, if he lets one side in, the other side gets in, for the very reason why the PPD is now appealing. It’s highly unusual or unusual in the extreme to conduct a hearing the way it was in this case.
I shared former councilor Ward’s disappointment that PEDA apparently is willing to “settle” for such a dead-end development. The economics don’t make sense. The answer is to provide training so that a capable work force can be used as a lure to possible bring better jobs. Creating more mow-wage, low-or-no-benefit jobs will surely perpetuate the down cycle.
As for the letters to the Planet on the Moore case including the video, it’s so healthy for a community to have a forum like this, even if it’s just to blow off steam. Though I agree with Nancy P/Molly that if enough citizens get involved they can work dramatic change in the system.
Nothing shouts economic prosperity and revitalization like… a Dollar Tree… how sad.
BD, YES!
It’s not certain the store is Dollar Tree, but the company did announce expansion plans into Western Massachusetts. It did not specify locations, citing confidentiality. “Confidentiality” on the part of Waterstone, Dollar Tree (or whatever company it is), and PEDA just means that, despite this being a site owned by the public, they want to keep We The People from knowing what they are up to. Next PEDA meeting is … TODAY! 8 a.m., at the usual convenient time. We hope to have coverage tomorrow. There’s also another meeting set for Friday, Feb. 10, 2012. The city’s calendar, of course, doesn’t allow you to link to the agenda (easily, in any case) nor does it list starting time, for ANY of the meetings. Beautiful
There is a dollar tree in the tjmax plaza next ro the former jewellery store and radidio shack (as Stergeon would call it). of all the dollar stores it is the best ’cause everything is a dollar.
.99 Cent only stores are the best, but I don’t want one here.
wether it be a dollar store or a lowes or ant other box store, it is not something that any family could survive on, these stores do not pay their help well at all. i would rather see that site vacant then to give incentives to a business that is going to give the money they save on incentives to themselves or stock holders……..im kind of hoping bianchi ends the cloak and dagger politics that have infested this cities entities. all this secrecy thats been around city hall for the last 8 yrs has hurt this city to the core. the ball is in bianchis hands now, and its up to him to continue in a way the electorate wants or go along with the gobs.remember that he ran on transparancy.
I think you are right about the no gain switcheroo on the PEDA chair. I was happy as hell to see embedded gob guy Grunin out but the elation quickly died when I read his replacements name. Guess there are no regular folk in the city who can get in on any of the gravy train. The power is still where is was before the election
They don’t want “regular folk” butting in to their business.
To be fair to Mayor Bianchi, PEDA is principally intended and functions seperately from the City. It is my understanding that each City Department has control over its portion of the City Website.
Who is this Mayor you speak of? He has been pretty much silent since taking office. I voted for him but am starting to feel like his is the same old same old.
You and me both!! One of these days, I’ll post about all the fun that I’ve had recently dealing with this city — I own a non-buildable lot. You just can’t believe what I’ve been through and what a joke this city is! Bianchi didn’t even return my phone call – had his secretary do it to tell me that there’s nothing that he can do. It is absolutely the same old crap! Very disappointing, indeed.
A non-conforming lot is a non -conforming lot. You can always apply for a variance, but there is not an individual on this earth that can legally waive a wand and absolve you from following the laws adopted by City Council. It is dissappointing that with the amount of money the City spends on Community Development you were not provided a legally satsfactory explanation of your due process rights.
Or did you call the Mayor’s office directly, bypassing chain of command, and expect that he could just hand you some illict favor? I forgot this is Massachusetts where they apparently don’t require civics in public schools.
Let me guess..he was in a meeting..lol
Excpt that the mayor sits on the board. Thats one ofthe things that Bianchi said he would do, get a seat on the board. Bianchi can do a lot of good , or a lot of damage, on PEDA. It’s up to him.
Ruberto sat on the board…
First off any dollar store is about 7,000 to 10,000 sq. ft far from a anchor.Second I don’t care if Bloomingdales and Tiffinies were coming,we don’t need to give up 1/3 of the entire Park to retail.We just got the 16 acres turned over to us lets not settle.For all you Dollar store junkies,I think they are trying to put in a Dollar General on upper north st.I like Shakes His Heads suggestion to get RFPs from developers.
It might be one of them Super Dollar Stores, which are far far bigger.
I heard upper North Street for the Dollar Store, too.
A Dollar is all people can afford, with GOB service jobs
DV,
Did you see this?
Now PEDA want to install a DEATHWAY around Silver Lake!
Breathe deep.
Wasting money on a walkway will give children and parents a false sense of security that the city wouldn’t build something over a dangerous place, now would it?
The Berkshire Eagle reporter claims PEDA’s newest member, Mayor Dan Bianchi, vote IN FAVOR of this!!!
Just inhaling those aromatic hydrocarbons in the air of the surrounding neighborhoods is dangerous let alone inhaling them on a walkway immediately beside the point source.
This is insane.
You can’t drink the water, eat the fish, swim in it, or wade in it, but it’s okay to breathe it so that the poisonous chemicals will be absorbed directly into the bloodstream via the lungs.
Real smart!
I’d worry more about the parrents smoking legal and illeagle substances around the kids when they took walks around the lake.
SEE:
http://www.berkshireeagle.com/ci_19924696
According to The Eagle’s Tony Dobrowolski, “The seven member board voted 6-0 in favor of the measures. Board chairman Gary S. Grunin was not in attendance.”
Heller six replys in a row! Your getting obsessed..
Stream of consciousness.
Try it Doyle, I mean Wade, your writing might improve.
Believe GE is paying for walkway once lake and land around area is cleaned.Did they annouce Mr. Grunin as stepping down or was he just absent and Mick was just filling in for him as chair.
if bianci is just going to take up space on the peda board then maybe hes not the guy we want there…. peda board being separate from city, really have no one to answer to ,and millions of dollars to play with to me is a disaster waiting to happen and thats if it didnt already happen.
Someone needs to get the ear of the new Mayor (the ear behind which the Mayor appears still to be very wet) and let Mr. Bianchi know he is being had.
FYI- Gary Grunin is still board Chair of PEDA- Mick Callahan is Vice Chair, and as Grunin is on vacation with his wife, fulfilled those duties at yesterday’s meeting. Conspiracy solved!! Score 1 for journalism.
By the way, have you really never accessed the city’s calendar before? That is almost mind boggling to me.
JOE
Given that most of the hard, investigative events that occur in your coverage zone are mind boggling to you, it’s not surprising that your fantasies about us are mind boggling to you. There’s lots of news and stories you aren’t getting, bub, so we wary when you start tossing around the term “journalism.” Should you wish to publicly debate us on said topic, name the time and venue, and we will answer the bell. By the way, don’t say anything, but rumor has it that a certain red-white-blue hot website by the initials of PV are in negotiations to buy iBerkshires. Nothing true to it, we will say for publication, but if and when I become your boss … well, you better get the resume in order. Maybe you can apply to the Dollar Tree when they open!
DV, how come you and a group of investors don’t put an offer in on the BB and make it into something?
Or is it doomed no matter how it is run?
Dan dont get your pantys in a bunch just because Mr. Durwin one uped you..Wow I could almost hear your hissy fit all the way to my house LOL
I was just asking an honest question, based on that it sounded like you had an unusually hard time accessing the PEDA agenda, and your mistatement that said calendar items can’t be easily posted as links, which of course they can.
A debate might be fun, but I’d rather get to know you a little better first. Come to a PEDA meeting- or really, any city meeting, at any point- it would be great to meet you in the flesh!
All Best,
Joe
JOE
We’d love to meet. Let’s get ‘er done at some point.
Cordially,
DAN
Sounds like a bit of a backtrack to me Joe D…but hey I’m no “journalist” so what do I know..Trust me Joe, I’ve seen the Planet at a debate and believe me, you want no part of that Joey boy….Planet “Bain” Valenti ?
Where I said above that: “that body of water is a carcinogenic stew emitting bad stuff 24/7/365 and in greater concentrations during summer and fall when the water has reached its highest annual temperatures.”
It is precisely during the warm summer and fall weather when such a walkway would have its greatest amount of use by kids on foot, on bicycles, on skateboards, and mothers with baby carriages.
And they are all going to be breathing in trace amounts with every breath of GE’s Aroclor and GE’s Chromium Hexavalent and everything else GE dumped into that body of water.
Breathe deep!
No doubt PEDA wants to see Pittsfield’s Cancer Rate skyrocket.
I’m under the impression that a walkway and amenities have always been the conclusion of the proposed Silver Lake remediation.
About how many pounds of these compounds were dumped into the water? When did this practice discontinue? What temperature do these various compounds evaporatre?? How many pounds evaporate each year? What is the highest temerature the water reaches during the warmest months of the year at lake bottom? Who has been affected by outgassing from the lake?
Irwin Corey,
Good questions.
G.E. has never divulged because it very likely doesn’t really know, but the guesstimates are in the range of hundreds OF TONS to thousands OF TONS!
The practice of dumping began when the Stanley Electric Manufacturing Company first occupied the abutting property starting in the mid-1880’s, continued when SEMC was bought by G.E. in 1903, and then continued under G.E. management for decades up at least til the 1960’s and even likely the 1970’s. (Even in the present day, chemical poisons continue to seep underground from the abutting properties into the lake.)
The chemicals, now mixed with mud and taking up a layer that U.S.E.P.A. estimates runs to about 5 feet thick across the bottom of the lake (itself around 35 feet deep at its deepest point), include various PCB compounds and their combinations, hexavalent chromium, industrial solvents, and god-knows-what-else.
How many pounds of chemicals in solution evaporate is anybody’s guess; at what temperature is known in those chemicals’ pure state but that may be different when in a stew and mixed with silt and mud.
Silver Lake’s highest water temperature during summer and fall is likely similar to those reached in surrounding lakes and ponds of similar depth.
How many thousands of human beings have been affected breathing the emissions from Silver Lake is anybody’s guess, but you wouldn’t want to be living either in the immediate area of the lake nor downwind for at least a half-mile (or more).
Just drive around one circuit of the lake in late summer with your car window’s open, breathing normally, and you will feel it for hours afterwards.
The guy to ask is Tim Grey of the Housatonic River Initiative; He can fill in a lot of details.
It might be money better spent if they built a walkway around the courthouse and hired a tour guide to tell the kids how the Pittsfield justice system works. Cliffy could be the guide.
Shakes His Head,you are correct,once the Lake and shoreline are remediated then GE will pay to build walkway.PEDA must purchase 5 acres for the walkway to go all the way around the lake.I would say it is going to take about 10 years before this happens,maybe even longer.
Hill Billy: Heheh…sure, but have you ever seen me in a debate?
In all honesty, I’m no journalist either… but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. Or at least, have a passing familiarity with the municipal calendar.
To be fair, like Dan, this is a side job for me and not how I mainly make my living, so I do understand that it can be a bit of a challenge to ferret out all the facts even part of the time. Unfortunately, I don’t enjoy the same carte blanche in coverage choices and lack of accountability for accuracy so sometimes I have to stick to what I know or can prove and have to at times table what I merely suspect or infer, which admittedly can be a lot less racy.
I would suggest that it takes a very motley village indeed to round out the dialogue in these parts.
JOE
Speak for yourself, buddy. You are not journalist, you write, and I shall take you at your word. The “either” part is factually incorrect, since I am by profession (all my career), by association, by practice, and by actuality a “card-carrying” journalist. I have the press cards to prove it and membership in the Society of Professional Journalists (since 1974, by the way). Also, you may describe your gig at iBerkshires as a “side job.” PLANET VALENTI is not a “side job.” It is one of many professional activities I have going, most of which are cost/income centers. If you want “the same carte blanche in coverage choices” start your own blog (and if you have, try to get readers). As for “lack of accuracy,” read your own clippings. Giuseppe, you’re not serious, are you, when you write that you only report on about stuff you “know” or “can prove”? The examples to the contrary are numerous. Finally, you should trust Hilly: You don’t want to tangle in public debate. Then it’s gloves off, no notes, and full speed ahead. Or do you want to know what it’s like to fly Mach III with your head on fire?
told ya Joe D…the Planet is Like the Maverick…you remember Top Gun Right? Flying fast past you Ice man
Dan, you don’t want to debate him about coulrophobia or the art of recyclorcism! Seems to be a expert in these areas.
Well said, Thanks Joe D
They can call it The Jerry Doyle Deathwalk.
Maybe GE can spring for some belvedere’s , a la Kennedy Park in Lenox, for all of GE’s cancer victims. I’ve got an Aunt and a Uncle they poisoned to death, they need to be remembered!!!
By all means, trot out examples, Dan. I would find it most instructive.
According to the Springfield Court’s Clerk’s Office, as of Thursday, 4:35 p.m., no decision has yet been released in the PPD appeal of the Nilan hit-run matter.
still no acknowledgment that the headline is wrong or is dan still too busy defending his journalism chops? sheeeh… grunin is just on vacation. that’s the no accountability for accuracy joe was talking about.
ANDY
The headline was accurate was we wrote it. Grunin was “out” for that meeting, was he not? And Callahan did take his place, did he not? Now, what else you got? At least Joe has the integrity and fortitude to use his real name. How about you? We invite you to own your words, as Joe Durwin and others do.
Dan That has to be the weakest answer Ive ever seen! “The headline was accurate as we wrote it” Just like Bill Clinton ” I did not have sexual relations with that girl”.. Dan do you think people are really that dumb? Man up and just say you were wrong and move on..
But I thought that, at least according to Bill Clinton, that whether or not he had sex with Monica depends on what the meaning of the word ‘Is’ is?
Is is is that right?
I would hope that the people of Pittsfield would stay on top of this situation at the GE site, something does not smell right, Mike Ward is someone who is up on the agreements that were in place for the parcels of land, so if you are in the dark on those agreements, talk to him. If one was to ride around Pittsfield, there is plenty of empty stores, for anyone who dares to open a retail store. Reality Check !!! Oh its the developer, who makes all the money!!! When all the dots are connected, key word connected, we may just see past the smoke and mirrors, so take my advice and stay tuned to our gracious host, the one and only Dan Valenti.
JOE
Many thanks to the greatest tonsorial man in town! But you’re correct. The PEDA shenanigans with respect to Action Ambulance and Waterstone Development in particular do not pass the smell test. We shall stay on it, as I’m sure our Right Honorable Good Friend, Mike Ward, will. Mike may no longer be in office, but he still lives in Ward 4, and he’s still fighting for the people.
It was wishfull thinking,on my part Mr.Grunin stepping down and Mike Ward taking his place.As far as Clinton goes that statement kept that dirt bag in the White House.