PLANET BREAKS LEAKED BHS MEMO ORDERING INFECTED STAFF TO KEEP WORKING
BY DAN VALENTI
PLANET VALENTI NEWS AND COMMENTARY
(FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE, THE WEEKEND EDITION APRIL 3-5, 2020) — THE PLANET has confirmed with sources connected to Berkshire Health Systems the contents of a leaked, internal memo first published by this website.
The memo indicates the alarming nature of the spread of COVID-19 in the city of Pittsfield and Berkshire Medical Center. It also provides clues about the handling — or mishandling — of the situation by BHS at the hospital.
In case you missed it, here is a memo this week to “All” by Patrick M. Borek, vice president of Human Resources, BHS. We have highlighted the most concerning sections (italicized):
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THE MEMO BEGINS:
As expected, we are seeing sustained community transmission of the coronavirus in Western Massachusetts. Therefore, like other hospitals and health systems across the Commonwealth in accordance with Massachusetts Department of Public Health guidelines, we are adjusting our procedures for this new stage in our response to the pandemic.
Staff Exposed to the Virus in Patient Interactions
With the virus so prevalent in the community, and with all employees masking at all times, there is no longer a need for a furlough after exposure to a COVID patient. We will continue to conduct screenings to identify potential exposures and find opportunities to improve process. If the screener determines that you have potentially been exposed, you should continue to mask, check your temperature and symptoms daily, and continue to work.
If You Become Sick
Regardless of the source of your symptoms, this simple statement continues to apply: If you’re sick, stay home. More specifically:
Stay Home and Call Occupational Health at 447-2684 if You Have:
Fever greater than 100 degrees and / or lower respiratory symptoms (cough, chest congestion, shortness of breath, tight sensation in your chest)
Any other serious illness that would have kept you out of work before the current situation
Come to Work if You:
Have upper respiratory symptoms (runny nose, nasal congestion, common cold or seasonal allergy symptoms)
Suspect you might have been exposed to coronavirus or some other illness either at work or in the community, but do not have fever or lower respiratory symptoms
As before, all absences due to illness will be handled according to normal policy (you will have access to your Earned Time, and Long-Term Illness Bank if your illness exceeds two days).
Thank you for all your efforts and your continued dedication to the health of our community as we face this crisis. If you have questions, please feel free to contact your manager, your HR Business Partner, or me at any time.
Pat
Patrick M. Borek
Vice President, Human Resources
Berkshire Health Systems
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THE PLANET interprets this memo from a common sense standpoint, not from a medical one, although the two here coincide. Are we correct? Lives might be at stake.
Bottom line: From this memo, it appears to contain proof that BHS is ordering likely infected staffers to continue to work.
And while this is happening, We The People’s executive rep, perhaps the only one with the weight of office to get clear answers from the hospital — the hospital that occupies monopolistic control of healthcare over the entire county — brags about her spaghetti and sauce. As the city gains worldwide infamy at a COVID-19 hot spot, the mayor tells us to color pictures and send them to the corner office.
Is this real? Can this be happening? Have we slipped into an alternate universe’s nightmare?
The BHS HR department is telling its staff that even if they have been exposed to the virus or think they have, still come to work. All we’ve read and understood about how COVID-19 spreads is that some people who get the virus might not be symptomatic or have only mild symptoms but, because they are infected, they become carriers. They can infect others and expose them to a virus that spreads exponentially, even though they themselves experience no symptoms of mild ones masking as a cold or flu. People hospitalized — a decidedly compromised subset of the populace with more than the normal immune systems risk — Are they in added danger because of this policy, which on the surface at least seems coldhearted and both counterproductive and counterintuitive.
THE PLANET puts out this call for our BMC sources to continue to let us know what’s actually happening on the wards. We shall respect all requests of confidentiality.
Is the situation at BMC so out of control that the hospital has to order infected staffers report to work? Doesn’t this go against recommended guidelines, let alone the more demanding protocols of a hospital?
THE PLANET also loves that little twist of the dagger near the end, telling staffers that any time missed will come out of “normal policy” of sick leave. In other words, any time staffers miss because of being run over by a pandemic will come out of their own “normal” hides. BHS has cut its dedicated, heroic, and overworked staff no slack despite the “Act of God” that may potentially put them out for some time or even kill.
We remind one and all that BHS is not in the Dreaded Private Section. It performs one of society’s most vital and necessary jobs, that of public health. Its staffers daily brave the front lines of what has been rightly called a war, risking their lives, and being sent in with inadequate ammo. No way should they be docked for missing time if they get felled by a pandemic. A hospital needs to be as accommodating to its beleaguered workers as possible.
You will recall, though, that this is the same management team that forced nurses to strike over working conditions, one of the most important of which was staffing levels. After the dust settled (did it ever, though, really??) and nurses went back to work, they did so understaffed. So they told us. If that was true, it means that from Day 1, BMC was not prepared for a serious outbreak, let alone a pandemic.
THE PLANET doesn’t know what the legal ramification will be if infected staffers spread the disease to immuno-compromised patients, especially if anyone dies (staff and/or patient). We can’t imagine it an envious situation, and we would question why a hospital would want such exposure. Of course, we are not lawyers here at the Fortress nor are we nurses and doctors on the front line. We can only watch as BHS handles an out-of-control wildfire as it does.
We do know that squirt guns will not be enough.
Could proper planning have put the hospital — and the city — in a better position? Could it have prevented little Pittsfield, Mass., from becoming one of the world’s Top 5 worst hot spots? That’s a question we also put not only to BHS but also mayor Linda Tyer, The Invisible Woman, who has renamed COVID-19 to CRAYOLA-19.
What an embarrassment.
Have, if you can, a great weekend, everybody.
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Maybe someone from BHS would be good enough to clarify, but I believe you are grossly misinterpreting what that key paragraph is actually saying. By “potential exposure” he is referring to treating a COVID patient. He is essentially saying that since precautions are in place, staff members shouldn’t quarantine themselves every time they treat a COVID patient. Seems like basic common sense to me, Dan, contrary to your alarmist piece. You really blew it on this one.
Did I blow it? Or did the “leadership” at two key city institutions blow it? It’s an open question, to be sure. Actually, I hope it’s me, because I can handle “blowing it” on a story. Wouldn’t be the first time and won’t be the last. The alternative, which you wisely admit is a possibility by your request for BHS clarification, is approaching unthinkable. We agree: BHS clarification is vital to this community.
Dan is 100 percent right on this. One thing that reads loud and clear? All workers,including the lower tier,right down to janitor,they have their own families also. They do, have to come home, leaving sick to go to work and face repercussions down the road because they weren’t sick enough not to come to work.
We here in the United States thought we were prepared for everything? We’re not. There are certain things that are out of our control. Had our leaders been prepared,this situation could have been a lot less intimidating. Instead of worrying just about foreigners entering the country illegally, we took our eye off the ball,our enemies that have been embraced by the President are getting the last laugh.
The United States is paralyzed . And this is not Great! I stated here on the Planet during the ISIS terrorism,which is still a problem, that this could be the future wave of terrorism future,biological. One question is if China knew the seriousness of this, why didn’t they immediately share all information immediately. Because the United States either didn’t care or had no knowledge and consequence of the what could happen. Just like Pittsfield. Reaction vs Proactive. Again.
DOC
Thanks. BHS is spinning this, and you wouldn’t expect anything other than spin. And the fact is, THE PLANET broke this news. The other media gave you watered down “summations.” Not the same at all.
Also they are all too worried about climate change and have been for at least 20 years. Was that to take our eyes off what is really important? Like a pandemic so it would have maximum effect on the economy and our health?
At least there is a paragraph? Is the Mayor giving you anything lately? Or he Ragg?
No he didn’t. Because the PPE isn’t in place and they’ve sent cnas in to take care of COVID+ patients with NO PPE at all.
If you are gowned up with a respirator, gloves and glasses or a shield, yeah move on and follow protocol but that’s not what fucking happening.
They are sending staff into rooms with no ppe and COVID+ patients.
Discharge staff is going room to room no ppe and mixing with COVID+ and non-COVID patients.
Just because you can be discharged after COVID doesn’t mean you aren’t shedding the virus you are still contagious weeks later
Why would you continue to call this a Pittsfield Ma.problem.I know you understand it as a national problem that the military warned President Trump about two plus months ago.He ignored the United State military because it was bad news he would not deal with.His incompetence was and is mind boggling.Trump knew it was coming to the berkshires.He made a decision to let it happen.Why?That is the incompetence.This national pandemic was allowed.Why did Trump let it happen.He was informed at a National Security Level.That is the scandle.
The School Committee,
In reading your post or opinion and trying to have some semblance of understanding regarding this whole pandemic can you help me to understand a few things please. You state “that the military warned President Trump about two plus months ago.He ignored the United State military because it was bad news he would not deal with.” Can you cite or point to any credible source that demonstrates this as factual? You further state “Trump knew it was coming to the berkshires.He made a decision to let it happen.Why?” Are you possibly thinking that there was a plot, motive or agenda to expose the Berkshires specifically? Are you suggesting that an Executive level decision was made to allow the Berkshires to suffer and languish more so than other areas of the country similarly situated? If so can you please provide some citation or point towards information that is credible to substantiate that position? I thank you in advance for doing so. As you can well imagine one of the greater issues in this crisis or any other crisis is getting factual information.
TSC loves posting fake news.
Fake news is a tell your a beck limbaugh hannity tuckerHannity Graham 12 hour brsinwadhing listener
The School Committee
With all due respect how is it that you know whom others cite here but when asked to give citation to comments attributed to you by your screen name you are either unable or unwilling to? you have posted about a dozen times since I asked you about the comments you posted and still nothing. I was hopeful you would at least give a citation so I could go and read or watch or in someway reference them and see the context they were given in
I respectfully request some reference to where you have gotten your information from? I think many on this blog would like to know so we can see where your view in derived.
Please The School Committee stay safe
5th-not sure if your new here, but TSC thinks Tricia Country-Buffet-Onais-Kennedy-Bouvier is a hard working politician for the people and Andrea Harrington is a tough, veteran, seasoned-prosecutor, hard on crime.
We just let TSC color pictures in a corner for Mayor Tyer-19, until the short bus arrives.
Tyer-19 and CRAYOLA-19: “Color My World” as the theme song.
Did not vote for Tyer Bouvier Or Harington
I wish I had read your comment before posting. You said it much better than I.
The economy would be negative. He chose the economy and gambled this wouldnt happen in every state in America.He also knew we were not pandemic ready.Some will never see his incompetence.
Your hatred for the president is so obvious in every post. Try to maintain some perspective. The military warned the president? Who specifically in the military warned him?
Play the blame game when this crisis is over. In the meantime support your president and hope he makes the right decisions.
Put your name on your comments.
Wait Chuck, that is what we do on here play the blame game right? I do agree with you however seems like that only applies to some No?
Chuck everyday I watch and he somehow starts making fun of people asking really importants questions.His favorite is nobody saw this coming and nobody has ever responded like he has.Its way worse than you are told.If your sourse is Trump you learn zero.
Tide Pods go in the washer TSC.
So the travel ban January 31st, which you criticized. Was denial of the virus?
You may want to slow your Marijuana intake, I think you’re melting your brain
The Chinese released the virus on purpose to weaken America. Part of their plan for global dominance and eventual WWIII
This whole thing is just suspect. We can’t get any answers from China about the origins of this virus. Many doctors who attempted to sound the alarm were silenced by China. China could have given the world an earlier 3 week warning about the virus than they did. They kept telling Italy there was no person to person transmission.
And the wet market has reopened- live dogs and cats for sale for supper
Let me give you some truths about China Pat. When all this pandemic stuff dies down China will emerge a much stronger nation and will be the ONLY world power. The United States will have a decimated economy, health care system, infrastructure and government needing a TOTAL rebuild. By this time next year the USA may be a province of China so if I were you I would be choose my words carefully because they are probably listening and watching.
Wow! So you agree with others that China released this virus on purpose? That we should fear not only the virus, but China?
Because of our own government malfeasance we will have effectively destroyed our own country. China will be the only country who would be both willing and able to help any time soon. And, it will come at a price. We will desperately need them. They will not need us at all. Check out the story about how Rome burned while Nero fiddled for a foundational understanding of my point.
Let’s see in China people were quite literally bolted into their houses to prevent the spread of disease. Many people were late found dead in their homes since they received no treatment. Those types of extreme measures may stop the disease, but in countries that are not communist, that type of extremism would not be accepted. So if our country is feeling the effects more, it is because we are not a country that treats our people with such terrible disregard. We will not be destroyed despite the far left saying that we will.
China caused the problem and the far left in this country made sure we were not prepared for this pandemic, so are these two working together more closely than we think?
Pat, please adjust the foil on your hat
Pat your corporations have gone to China for 25 years.Blame the corporation party of Republicans
Your wonderful far left liberal colleges take in Chinese students in massive numbers to teach them our skills.
You’re right Pat, unless you are white, you have no right to an education!
So they can work for republican corporations.
So you think China will invade America? Ponder this thought, once the soldiers leave China, why wouldn’t they sail to easier pickings, say Venezuela? Then settle there.
Effectively escaping a dictatorship they don’t really want to be in.
Can’t the BIC come up with a vaccine?
Relax ! Pat Muraca and Nuclea are on the case, putting his millions of NY and MA grants to work.
Crime Pays. Especially in Palookaville. I’m Thristy. Give me some chocolate.
Thirsty? He will “retire” from PEDA at the end of this month. “Retire” from doing what, exactly? No one knows.
Probably the biggest no show nothing in Pittsfield he history of gobsig. Next to Doyle’s job consultant Sec of State. Pleeeeze?
Hoo-ray! A tunnel at the end of the light.
DAN
This is common practice among every health care system now.
They can’t have everyone going into isolation if they may have been exposed, until they’re actually sick.
This would cause a huge staffing crisis across the country, and there would be no one to are for the sick.
Glad to see there is at least one voice of reason out there! Great post Tad! Mass hysteria over this outbreak have people paralyzed with fear & afraid to leave their homes. The stats in western MA are not that alarming. Hopefully Gov. Baker will lift his stay-at-home order and get the schools reopened by April 27th AT THE LATEST! Call him 617/725-4005 main office
If BHS did it’s job right it shouldnt be common practice.
If BHS gave a shit about anything but their executive bonuses we would have had the proper staffing, ppe, and they would have canceled all elective surgeries the first day they had a confirmed case. Right now there are COVID+ patients intermixed with non-COVID patients.
They didn’t even come up with a fucking isolation plan or floor plan.
You realize no hospital can get PPE. It’s literally an issue everywhere. I’ll upload all of my zero’d out invoices if you don’t believe me.
RN and Tad here both have valid points. While Dan is doing his muckraking best to pin this on the mayor and the BHS system (and I am not using muckraking pejoratively…it is a service) I think his I interpretation misses the mark a bit here. If BHS employees are appropriately garbed with protective masks and gloves and stuff, mere simple “exposure” to a sick patient should not be reason for said emp,oyee to enter a 2 week non-working quarantine. The suggested measures should be appropriate despite the possibility of non-symptomatic transmission. There certainly should be an isolation plan though for already infected patients and they should certainly be a lot more considerate on use of earned sick time for these every day heroes.
MR G
As usual. cogent points. I am not trying to pin “this” on the mayor or BHS, unless, in the mayor’s case especially, “this” refers to actions once the situation worsened. That was totally in her control, and she blew it. It would take tomes to detail how badly Pittsfield “leadership” screwed its citizens. Why is it and how is it that Pittsfield, Mass., a city of 40,000, got to be the world’s #4 hot spot, measured by cases per capita. While other cities and counties had leadership taking charge with policy decisions, action, and enforcement, we have coloring books and spaghetti. The BHS situation may be what you say … or may not. What’s troubling is the amount of information that staffers and others there think they have to leak, surreptitiously. One source actually came out and said if he/she is caught “leaking,” they will get fired. One source says there is no separation on the wards — COVIDs and non-COVIDs mixing. On a more agreeable note, you are a man of discernment. Not many realize that “muckraking” is a positive, a necessary requirement for a free society. It’s a service precious few can do but a vast many need. Stay well, my good friend.
The private healthcare system pants down.Not just here but America .Remember one person from Clarksburg exposed all the BMC workers who live all over the county.Trump was told it was coming.
Ok so I’ll explain it to you because you don’t know how it works.
It isn’t about ordering now, it’s about inventory everyday. The hospital has very few supplies at all even on good days. They have maybe a two month supply based on normal volume. Many of the machines pulse/ox and ventilators sit broken for months. I had a defib machine sit for months with no battery right in the hall. No one did anything, reported it 5 times until I was told to “stop complaining”.
I the Eagle did a pr piece on how prepared BHS was, they weren’t fucking prepared. In fact they down ordered (delayed ordering) things.
They fought us on staffing, even after the first patient tested positive they didn’t do a fucking thing. Even now they are commingling COVID+ patients with non-COVID patients.
RN,
All due respect I don’t believe that you are aware of how supplies in the medical world work.
First months and months of supplies are not kept on hand in any facility. It’s neither cost effective nor practical. As you can imagine there are benchmark levels of certain supplies to keep on hand an in route so to speak Medline or Cardinal Health or some other logistics group is connected into the hospitals computer systems the logistics management group knows the procedure codes for the hospital the protocols and the equipment. They have worked with the OR staff for example and developed a pack for say appendicitis. Everything that the OR needs for each step of the actual procedure is contained in that pack from scalpels, sponges, retractors etc. I would go as far as to say there is most likely a rep from the logistics company onsite. I would guess additions are routinely made level adjusted fairly frequently. The Logistics Company has access into the scheduling computer and delivers the appropriate supplies at the proper time. If I had procedure or test scheduled for say 6 weeks from now do I want that testing kit or tray sitting around waiting on me the entire 6 weeks? Or do you think it more prudent that the facility take possession of those products say three days beforehand? They can then be billed and charge them out in a short amount of time and recover the costs quickly enabling them to let’s say pay the nursing staff. Items like Masks Gowns etc. have benchmark levels set so they don’t get destroyed and are stored appropriately.
The logistics companies work with the hospital and look at both historical trends and they try to take a look at what’s on the horizon. If you are the least bit intellectually honest you will have to admit you have no clue of any of the discussions as they were unfolding with the suppliers. I would guess I do not know as I don’t have any contacts dealings etc. with BHS that they like every other facility tried to get additional stores of PPE but there is none. Be honest what has JCAHO said about PPE? They have issued bulletins regarding it. Look at Kaiser one of the larger healthcare groups serving all of CA and most of the west coast they could get no PPE the same with Tenant, Sisters of Orange, Humana No one could. While I understand your frustration it is misguided at BHS. we as a nation out sourced set up tax laws to incentivize just in time shipments instead of warehousing. It still may prove to be the right thing to do with materials made in the USA. Look no further than locally I believe but I am not certain paper to make masks, gowns etc. was produced in Berkshire County at one time. All sorts of legislation from Tax to environmental concerns forced it to stop.
RN we need to stop bashing BHS because it fits our agenda we really need to rally around the Staff the organization and the community. When this is over we can and should be critical from an entire systems approach of which BHS is a very small part
The 5th
If Berkshire meatcutters was properly staffed, they would have larger quantities of supplies of PPE including visors which there was barely any Of
It would be like sending a fireman into a burning building in his underwear, where is osha?
Trump caught with pants down.We just dont hsve protective equipment
That’s what you’ve been waiting for. Pucker up and get sucking
RN
Please take a broader look at the situation. PPE is in short supply at this point for everyone not just BHS. I also wonder what yourself and others would say if for example BHS had tons of PPE warehoused in the thoughts that a pandemic would occur at some point, Would the rank and file have understood when they were striking if the management team came out and said sorry we are currently tapped out as we have invested a ton of capital on warehousing PPE?
You state “IF BHS gave a shit about anything other than Executive bonuses we would have had adequate staffing” From your prospective how does BHS balance a community of low pays/no pays (I think the Office of Health Care Policy and Finance tagged that number around 75% ) the drive for lower reimbursements on all fronts Medicaid, Medicare and private networks against labor and infrastructure investments? I am not making any excuses for BHS I am trying to understand from a broader community position. They are the only game in town good bad or indifferent. In the current Healthcare climate as you must be aware the trend is merge consolidate etc. so that economies of scale can be enjoyed. Did the Nurses Union as a whole actively support the ACA? Are staffing levels impacted by the act? If so in which direction?
Please engage us in some meaningful dialog give us an insiders perspective beyond rhetoric. This will be one of the few times we get insight into the inner workings (good and bad) of our local community Hospital during a public healthcare crisis. I implore you please make the dialog meaningful, thought proving, factual and forward looking this will pass and we will each need to evaluate all aspects of our community including the care and compassion delivered to both the Patients and the members of our community who work for BHS.
I truly hope we can have an engaging dialog
Regardless please be safe and be well Wishing you and all who read this the very very best
Excellent posting, 5th. Thought provoking. A classic example of what I mean by a comment that “furthers the discussion.”
tell me about bmc offshore accounts
So you can see the administration and the shills jumping in on this here now.
BHS had a 25 day supply. Most hospitals carry 60 days or more of PPE. I’ve worked at 6 different hospitals, the one hospital system that rides on razor thin and dangerous supplies and staffing BHS.
Even now they are actually cutting hours because of overtime. Not because they care about the safety of patients. They are using CNAs to do RN and BSN work.
RN,
I am not a shill nor am I connected to anyone in BHS Administration. I am simply a concerned member of the community. I ask that you please consider the questions that posed above I think they are fair and answers from you might round out opinion or at the very least shed light and perspective. With that said you state that there was a 25 day supply of PPE on hand and that “most Hospitals” have a 60 day supply. I am just a lay person I did however do a quick check on the Joint Commission on the accreditation of Health Care Organizations JCAHO whom as you know rules with the fear of Healthcare Gods as if you are not accredited you get reduced or no reimbursements. With that said BHS and Pittsfield are on the routine lines of transit for both MedLine and Cardinal Health two of the largest warehouse and distribution companies in the healthcare market. I can find no requirement to store 60 90 or any other set days of PPE or other stores. A case can be made for storing to much in one location at any given point in time. (reducing cash resources that are now tied up in an enhanced amount of stores) The entire economy, automobile repair, grocery etc. revolves around keeping reduced inventory. The wisdom of that can be discussed and reasonable people can disagree. The fact remains that’s how the economy is currently situated thus records and payments need to be based on such. Can you point us to a law a best practices or some other document that states a healthcare facility should or must store a said number of day’s worth of PPE? I am not interested in promoting one side or the other I am interested in a larger discussion to see what went right and what went wrong. I ask this as you might see some of this in the form of a ballot question or legislation we are asked to support or oppose one day, it would be nice to have a bit of a working knowledge.
Thanks in advance for your help RN
Please be well
Good comments and questions, 5th.
By low pays/no pays do you mean social services cases? I understood the Drs were reimbursed by volume of patients seen. I assume the nurses are salaried. What do you mean ‘balance a community of no pays.’ I am not being sarcastic I am curious how it works.
Kermit Frog,
I will give a brief overview/explanation of the medical billing/reimbursement world. Keep in mind I think it is easier to put 3 men on the moon using only rubber bands a straw and a vacuum cleaner.
I am not connected to BHS in any way shape or form and the information given here is a 30,000 foot view: Low pay/no pay is a term that has been used to describe in part what you referred to as social service cases. Medicaid Medicare as an example might pay the Hospital 75% of the total cost billed for said service that is listed on the bill not the billed amount. They might pay nothing for parts of that service dependent upon where that service was delivered. Example if someone shows up at the ER because they have a headache reimbursement would differ than if that same person presented at an outpatient facility. Example BHS might have a protocol to handle the headache with two aspirin and Medicaid may only cover one this goes for supplies opened up in “the tray” etc. however at the outpatient care center two aspirin might be fully reimbursed as long as they are properly coded. Please only use that as an example it is far more complex and there is an entire industry set up to try and ensure each facility is maximizing its reimbursements. The rate for service is set and it is meant in a way to average out of the spectrum of the community. It is forever evolving and the rules codes and definitions are essentially a moving target. The reimbursements are also in part based upon outcomes and status of the facility (quality care centers etc.) Our community has a high percentage of Medicaid Medicare and Mass health etc. patient demographic vs the private insurance type which also may be paying at a different rate depending upon the contract executed between for example BHS and Aetna for example. The health insurance provider might have negotiated for a set rate per visit or per diagnoses with the facility and that amount would be based in part on how many patients that insurer is negotiating for. It is extremely complex I hope that overview helps.
Now I am going to interject my OPINION on a couple of things. I have no connection to BHS and/or the people in administration at BHS. I am in the healthcare industry and as such follow this from the 30,000 foot view because what I do as an occupation is impacted greatly by it.
The Administration of BHS does an excellent job advocating for our community at the state level for increased reimbursements/payments and for the overall public health of our community and does a very good job advocating for our community overall as far as trends illness and general health concerns including the economics of healthcare in our community.
Kermit Frog that’s what this blog should be a place to get views from a wide range of people in the community and to exchange ideas and information so that we all grow and learn and have a better community for it. At some time in the future I will ask Dan for a guest column and go deeper into this I hope that you understand that right now everyone in the healthcare field is all out.
A couple of links if you are interested
https://www.medicareadvantage.com/resources/medicare-reimbursement-rates
https://www.the-hospitalist.org/hospitalist/article/194971/medicares-two-midnight-rule
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Thanks, 5th. I feel I just took a gradate-level course in the reimbursement biz. As for BHS, I agree. They are great advocates to Boston for overall public health. They have enjoyed a fine reputation, well deserved. And YES!!, we would love a guest column. We are at your service, sir.
Thank you for your answer. My personal experience with BHS has been abysmal. I have had friends who have suffered severe malpractice – I can’t go into details but just abject I’m impotence from there travel in from out of town Drs. I don’t receive social services so I can’t say that they do or do not advocate properly for these people. Having lived in Boston, NYC, PA, CA, Canada and Germany it was been the lowest caliber of medical interaction I have ever received. My spouse and I have advanced degrees and the practitioners spoke to us like we were morons. For example a doctor would give a hard time about getting a Lyme test but insisting on a MRSA rest when no fever presents. Just block headed and only attuned to their general drug addict clientele or parents with anti-vax no science witch craft level medical beliefs (which part from CA is a special type of Western, MA ignorance) . I have never used the ER at BMC – I would drive to Fairview or Albany Med. My income and property taxes are higher than they were in Germany and I have to pay for a 10k a year with a 3k deductible for a family plan. If I go on for a check up it costs $800. If this were China I would have more choice and likely a better outcome.
“ I can’t go into details but just abject I’m impotence from there travel in from out of town Drs == I cant go into details but I am assuming from their ‘travel in and out of town Drs’. “.
The person that suffered the worst had a Dr from New Hampshire. Why do these Drs come to BMC and what is their compensation set up?
Can you confirm or not what we’re hearing about non-isolation of COVID-19 patients? I know you just mentioned it, but can you officially confirm that is the case. We’ve heard it now from you and others. Just for the record: Yes? COVID patients are mixed with non-COVIDS? Thanks, RN. We appreciate your service to the community … and to THE PLANET.
Thank you, TAD. Just curious: Are you a hospital employee or health care worker? A doctor? A nurse? An administrator? It would help us qualify your information.
Health Care Provider (Never in management at BMC or BHS, just a person on the front lines..no more details to protect my anonymity). Former BMC Employee with many friends and family still working on the front lines there. What I’m being told is going on at BMC and what we’re dealing with at my current Hospital is the same. Granted, I went from 300 bed BMC to a much larger 1000+ bed hospital.
We’re all in the same boat.
The CDC is literally changing rules on the fly and we’re all trying to keep up with everything.
What I’m hearing from my friends at BMC (non administrator friends) is that they’re trying to do the best they can with what they have. But they can’t get the PPE. Patients are being kept seperate (no shared rooms with non covid PTs and facilities is trying to turn as many rooms that they can into negative pressure rooms. But you can only do so much before you have to weight treating these patients or telling them “Sorry! Go find help elsewhere!”.)
Also, be wary of what some nurses are saying.. The ones in deep with the MNA will say whatever they can to make BMC/BHS look bad. The MNA has its own agenda and it’s not always patient care.
Absolutely false. They have and have COVID+ patients in with non COVID. Same rooms and same floor. They have not done any meaningful floor isolation at all. Social works, PT, OT, food service moving from room to room, COVID+ and non COVID.
They haven’t even instituted closed door policies.
Happiness is Pittsfield in the rear view mirror.
The problem with the US, and especially Pittsfield, is not capitalism but maybe a lack of capitalism. If we had real capitalism I could take my money elsewhere. If we had choice people could go elsewhere for medical treatment. What choice do people have in BHS – esp. propped up despite their obvious long running incompetence. There have been a high number of settled malpractice cases at BHS long before Covid. It doesn’t surprise me at all that they are this incompetent – and yes it’s worse than the national state of affairs.
There has been too many years of crony job placement and the local government propping up useless organizations that if the market worked properly would fold. Maybe when the dust settles BHS will be sued out of existence as a good deed to all who live near. One goombah too many broke the camels back.
KERMIT
One of anything, and only one, is the loneliest number in an allegedly capitalistic society. Capitalism thrives on competition. You use hospitals as an example. Good one. Also, public education, where Mass. and the teachers unions work feverishly to limit choice.
At this point I am for public health. If my expensive policy isn’t getting me anything better then why bother? I don’t have more choice and/or access to better care. Public health might mean BHS makes lower profits but if it doesn’t effect the quality of my care I am not sure why I should anyone would not be for it.
If you think this hysteria isn’t out of control – cbs local news is running a story on how Walmart & BJ’s in Chicopee have closed off sections of their stores as “ nonessential.” Not allowed to purchase seeds, household items, etc. Ridiculousness!
Might want to check your definition of ‘breaking news’ as this was on WAMC two days ago, and on the Eagle’s site last night. And by the way, every hospital in the state has the same policy, backed by the state DPH, and if you think the poor nurses have bad benefits, think again. They have better benefits than any of your commenters, other than the nurses themselves who post. I would also ask, when any of you call in sick, are you given special dispensation and paid, but not required to use sick time?
BULL Thanks for the pushback. Clarifications help us all by giving us a better chance at a shred of truth.
Fake CDC c-virus models?
Facts; USNS Comfort in NYC has 3 patients ( non- cvirus)
USNS Mercy in LA has 15 patients (non-cvirus)
99% of NY c-virus fatalities had pre-existing conditions
Berkshire Co. hospitals have 22 c-virus patients
Meanwhile, the economy is being destroyed.
DeBlasio releasing hundreds of inmates.
Chaos due to fake computer models?
I really don’t think so. I have friends in Italy and they have seen make shift morgues all over. Please don’t be reckless. The faster we deal with this head on the better off we all will be. The economy will bounce back once we are out of the woods. There will be a boom like no other. We just have to take care of our citizens first. Stay safe.
Froggy ; re-read please. CDC. Not talking about ITALY.
Whatever – it’s not a hoax it’s not an overreaction. 1500 people died in NYC in 24 hours. That will go up. The ignorance about this from the Fox types really should be stopped.
NYC has over eight million people. I wonder how many total deaths they have every day from all causes?
Population – New York City Population
Population Facts
Here are some interesting facts about the New York City population:
With a July 2015 population of 8,550,405, New York is the most populous city in the United States, more than twice the size of the second largest city, Los Angeles.
About 1 in every 38 people living in the United States resides in New York City.
New York has the highest population density of any major city in the United States, with over 27,000 people per square mile.
Over 3 million of New York City’s residents are foreign-born; over one-quarter arrived in 2000 or later.
Nearly 2 million New Yorkers are under the age of 18.
New York City has more people than 40 of the 50 U.S. states.
New York City comprises over two-fifths of New York State’s entire population.
New York City has grown by over 1 million people since 1990.
The 2014 median age in New York City was 35.8 years, almost two years lower than the national median of 37.7 years.
Over one-third of the population 25 and over in New York City has a bachelor’s degree or higher, compared to 30 percent nationally.
There are nearly 400,000 more women than men in New York.
There is a birth in New York City every 4.4 minutes.
There is a death in New York City every 9.1 minutes.
The borough of Brooklyn on its own would be the 4th largest city in the United States; Queens would also rank 4th nationally.
Approximately two-thirds of dwelling units in New York are renter-occupied, over twice the national average.
The average commute for New Yorkers is just over 40 minutes, about 14 minutes longer than the national average.
New York City has the largest Chinese population of any city outside of Asia.
More persons of West Indian ancestry live in New York City than any city outside of the West Indies.
New York has the largest Puerto Rican population of any city in the world.
More Dominicans live in New York than any other city in the world, barring Santo Domingo.
Over 2.4 million Hispanics reside in New York City, more than any other city in the United States.
The Black nonhispanic population of New York City numbered 1.89 million in 2014, more than double the count in any other U.S. city.
Half of all New Yorkers speak a language other than English at home.
Over 200 languages are spoken in New York City.
According to this about 158 people die there every day. Kermit, where did you get that 1500 number from?
NYT. If you aren’t worried maybe get a job for a realtor. Baker in his wisdom has allowed the realtors to keep showing houses to all the fleeing NYC types. You might make a mint.
Fascinating stuff? Do any Jewish people live in New York?
Post your source please.
N.Y.C. Death Toll Tops 1,500 as Cuomo Warns on Ventilators …www.nytimes.com › nyregion › coronavirus-new-york-update
1 day ago – Get our daily newsletter, with the latest information about the coronavirus … is in a position to provide ventilators to the extent the nation may need them,” he said. … Deaths in New York City: 1,562, up 188 from 1,374 on Wednesday. … ‘You Have Cuomo Prime Time, I Have Cuomo All the Time,’ N.Y. …
I think I read that incorrectly – it’s not 1500 in 24 hour as. I think it’s 600. Still be safe, it’s not a joke. You can tell me I am wrong but still be safe.
I think it’s less than 200 a day but I am staying home as much as possible but I think when it’s all over and analyzed we’ll see that there was a lot of over reaction.
Froggy,
Check your facts please, before you start fear- mongering.
What human being does not have preexisting conditions? I think that term was invented by the insurance companies to deny people coverage.
Agreed. Insurance companies love you when you pay your premiums and receive no services. Try to make a claim, though, and they will invent a way for you to be uncovered. Classic shakedown scheme.
I think the 2 hospital ships are for people who have tested negative for covid-19 or are asymptomatic.
Cut the crap with the “are you new here?” bull shit. We can go elsewhere for that attitude and the whole “newbie,” “troll” baloney, or is it a pathology?
As if anyone in here deserves any kind of status for popping off while sitting on his or her fat ass.
Don’t worry about who is who, who says what, who someone is.
Just read and think by the written word as presented.
I also repeat my plea to get rid of the thumbs-up, thumbs-down inanity.
I gave you a thumbs-up on this one Ed. Oh, the previous one too.
You know where to put your thumbs . . .
Just taking a minute to think about the good-old days of Pittsfield. I know it is really not helpful to the discussion, but maybe is helpful in another way. In no particular order: little league baseball games at nearly every park in the city, ding-dong carts rolling around town, Kay-Bee Toy Stores, Friendly’s Ice Cream (5 stores), Kirk’s Hobby Shop, England Brothers, record stores on North St., Thee Arcade, comic book racks at Magner’s Drug Store and George’s Variety, Newberry’s lunch counter, the old Library, Zayre’s, Adams Super Market, etc.. Just a nice one minute vacation from these times. But, this too shall pass, and we will have good times again – maybe not in”old Pittsfield”, but at least we still have Teo’s, Papa Joe’s, and the Highland. (can you tell from this post that I do have a weight problem).
Fester,
Thanks for the list. Speaking of Papa Joe’s. Haven’t had it in awhile and not sure if they have Polenta on the list, But Paul makes a mean Polenta.
Repost. Thanks for the list UF, Paul makes a mean Polenta dish at Pappa Joe’s. Haven’t had it in sometime and not sure it is still available.
Uncle Fester must have been asleep in his closet for the last 6 years or more, because we talk about this every day in here. That and bitch about how bad things are now.
The citizens of Pittsfield can all relax now. Saw as posting that our Mayor is finally communicating. Unfortunately she is speaking to the foam in her glass of beer asking it to stop staring at her. Yet feel so relieve that she is communicating.
Meant to say a posting. Was so excited about the communication I typed too fast.
IMHE model fake as well?
Faulty projections using NY/NJ data & applying it to rest of country.
Model predicted 121,000 in U.S. would be hospitalized due to c-virus, yesterday. Actual number was 31,142!
Other modeling data;
TX; projected hospitalized 1,716. Actual 196.
GA; 2,777. Actual 952.
VA; 607. Actual 305.
NY; 50,962. Actual 18,368.
Not too accurate!
Westfield has a population of 41,000 people and 95 cases, Pittsfield has a population of 42,000 and 73 cases – I’m no mathematician but per capita Wesfield has more…that’s just one example and there are more…Whatever chart is out there listing Pittsfield as #5 or top ten or whatever is nonsense…stop spreading fear in an already difficult time for people.
Pittsfield has supposedly been testing for weeks yet only have tested less than1300 people? Why? No swabs? Nobody to do it?
I shan’t dignify it by mentioning the piece by that idiot Morrison in today’s Eagle.
Your boy trump and ma. Democrats are stupid,period.
If an organization, being it the media, government or health care provider, was to provide false or misleading information about a deadly spreading disease, that would be immoral. Many people would view low infection or death numbers in their area to mean the threat is low and may go out and mingle more in public. It sure seems to be that way in Pittsfield. So I hope no one is doing this because if they are they are complicit in spreading the virus and the deaths that result.
I heard one doctor on Tv say, “Behave like you have the disease, and be grateful that you don’t”. Good advice.
CONTACT does not guarantee EXPOSURE. EXPOSURE does not guarantee INFECTION . That is why PPE is used. If every BHS employee who came in CONTACT with an INFECTED patient was quarantined there would be nobody left to treat the INFECTED. Testing is the key here but currently there is a global shortage of supplies and capabilities need to improve.
Thank you,doc Salk.
Let’s hope our mayor and Lo are safe at home calling the shots. And if there should be any homicides in the city,the d a gphas to examine the crime scene. That doesn’t stop.
The DA does not have to go to any crime scene, even a homicide one. If fact, the average cop doesn’t want her anywhere near one.
Stop marginalizing with your Caps. The gist of the letter is the content. And the content to the reader is the bottom line…… B H S first. And please Dan, print this. Trump fucked up.
Waxy, I’m not sure you understand the meaning of marginalize and the point of the Caps was to emphasize that these terms mean very different things. Would quotation marks be better? I don’t have a copy of “Elements of Style” nearby.
You done good with your “marginalized” post, Info! I grade it a 100%
I would suggest that no one attend either Tanglewood,nor any theatre productions this summer. Baseball will be delayed. One other local,schools and home daycares, a no go.
I wouldn’t go to tanglewood for free this summer. The lemon isn’t worth the squeeze. And third Thursday? Forget about it. Don’t feel bad,the Mayor didn’t even attend the Christmas Party Tree Lighting last year.
How do you know what the situation will be like this summer? Give me a break! Fear-mongerer!
Yea , I’m going to my beach house on the cape and if they close the bridge I’ll take the tunnel.
Basically,Borek’s marginalizing sickness in general. Here’s what he really means? In my opinion.
You signed up for this and suck it up.If you have a cough or some measley congestion,your family will have to wait. Being at home is inconsequential, but when you are told not to come to work… non Corona ….that’s different…… Boreks letter should have read…B H S workforce,we are at War. We know you are the heart and soul to Mr. Phelps next bonus.
We will give you everything within our power that you need. Right down to the janitor. We know this is your life and death.
Relating to Pittsfield:
The Mayor should read this.
Because it is in your power to ensure the law. Be proactive, and enforce the damn law. Start by shagging the fishing on the Onota Causeway. Cars parked the wrong way for starters and there is zero six foot distance. The Shit has hit the Planets Fan.
What law prohibits fishing within 6 feet of each other? Just askin?
You tell em bro. Harrington pushed to let people outta jail and doesn’t want to put bad guys there in the first place, and this jamoke wants cops to lock people up for not practicing Fiishtancing on the causeway. Courts are closed folks. Nobody wants cops arresting anybody. Smoke em if you gottem. It’s game on for the criminals.
https://www.berkshireeagle.com/stories/to-help-keep-virus-at-bay-supreme-judicial-court-oks-release-of-some-inmates,601662
We are currently seventh in the nation with Corona.
We are? Show me? Where did you see that?
You have to laugh Dan. Doc Fauci is telling everyone to stay six feet apart,yet he was caught not six feet apart, and touching his face during the Presidents briefing. What do Americans don’t understand? No one is immune from the virus,no one. Locally this Mayor was mentioned as killing people on here. Well, indirectly. If she doesn’t enforce the law,technically she is. Someone mentioned Lakeway Drive and the Causeway.That should be prohibited, there are groups congregating.It’s a petry dish outdoors, there. Enforce the law Mayor ,or resign.
One other item Dan. It’s sickening day after day the clowns creating disturbances like the plague.Zero tolerence. Cumberland Farms and City apartments where there is recessive complaints
Send them to the jaiI. … P P D can’t control the same situations day after day. And certain boy shouldn’t be wasting their time with this nonsense day after day.
Where is everyone coming up with these direct statistics?
“We are 4th in the nation.”
“We are 7th in the nation.”
Anyone who posts a “fact” should really back up the information with a cited source.
Dan, I also think the fear propaganda is unnecessary here. I don’t think BMC’s practice are either out of the ordinary or unfair. Exposure doesn’t mean infection. Infection doesn’t mean illness.
There are a lot of wild cards here and the bottom line is, they need people to care for the hospitalized people. It is the responsibility of the workers to try their best to limit their contact with outsiders, to mitigate community spread. Let’s not forget, this is their JOB. They signed up to care for sick people. If they don’t want to do the job, they can quit. No?
And finally, can we have some real perspective here? Before today’s numbers are posted, we currently have 213 positive cases in Berkshire County. Out of a population of 126,000 people.
Less than 0.2% of our local population has tested positive. And of those numbers, we know that at least a handful (if not more) have recovered.
Yes, the deaths are unfortunate. But one final thought. By the virtue of being an 80 or 90 year old person, you are already dying. Your underlying condition is the fact that you’ve spent 8 or 9 decades on the planet and your physical body is old and tired and failing.
Well, at some point we will be seventh. Who gives a crap.were in the top ten.
PHIL
News Flash: It just isn’t 80 or 90 year olds who are “already dying,” as you put it, but all of us. The moment we are conceived, we are in a headlong rush toward death. Sorry to break the news.
the Arts and bars should not be bailed out by local or federal monies p.
Someone said that Stooge has been kicked off the air. Can anyone confirm?
Are you related to Sid Blumenthal, Sid? I’d like to give him a slap upside the head.
Make it two, one on each side, for equal measure. And throw in Adam Shifty and Coons and I’ll take the three of em on.
Yeah Dan. And I don’t want to die in this city a hero? Would you?
I don’t wanto to die in this city, period!
Please do not listen to the President,Comparing,He states the flu would be less numbers also if there was no handshaking? This is not the flu,Mr. Prez. Not even close. Who voted this clown as a president. Did that many people hate the Clintons and Obamas? Guess so. My advice is to stay at home this weekend,you’ll be rewarded.
How about some current statistics, at B H S how many workers have been furloughed since the infection?
Currently we have less than the 100 to two hundred plus co 19 could bring.also there is a spray that can kill the virus for up to three months. And in other news N B C states 270000 deaths? Don’t think so?
Soap and water kills the virus, so does good ole dry gas, and all the auto parts store are open and they sell it along with gloves and paper towels. Supermarkets sell dry gas too.
I do realize that it’s not exclusively 80-90 year olds. But if you look at the daily Massachusetts updates, the numbers are clear – the majority (more than the majority) of deaths are people who are 80s, 90s, even 100s. Albeit, a good number of 70s too. It would be great if we could be updated with all of the daily data aggregated into one report.
See me in another month and quote us some new numbers. You and many others don’t get it. This is just the beginning.Its not tailing off,right-as of today.
This is the problem. It is your statements that protect the status quo politicians who need to be told day after day,what a great job theu have done with this. which fuel the propaganda that is well,it’s not. Tell the Mayor to get in a convertible with a Bull Horn and yell at the clowns on the Causeway-to go home,or get a f—–g boat.
That last line is the philosophy of the current administration, were taxing you out your homes,move, on your to old”
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/27/upshot/coronavirus-new-york-comparison.html
They consider Pittsfield to be a city of 126,000 and even at that it was 9th it’s worse now and when you think about Pittsfield being only 35,000 people
This is the last and only statement I can make. Our current delegation from mayor to reps media,you know who they are? Have not made it clear evidentially, how serious the situation is? Don’t understand it? We are in a pandemic. That means all bets are off. Zero tolerance here, Mayor. What don’t you understand about that? Everything cancelled until further notice.
Re: 1/3 of coronavirus tests are inaccurate & contribute to the spread of COVID-19!
Medical experts are worried that close to 33 percent of people testing negative for the coronavirus are actually infected. As officials rush to “flatten the curve,” accelerated testing capacity is also throwing in some incorrect results, which lead people to believe they don’t have the virus, and keep them from quarantine. The ramifications for medical workers, who are on the front lines of helping others, are even greater than for those of us working from home.
Typically, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention studies a test’s accuracy, a former CDC statistician told The Wall Street Journal, but that can take a year. The FDA said, “”False results can also contribute to the spread of COVID-19.” LabCorp said, “negative result does not definitively rule out infection.” How the specimen is collected, and how long the individual has been infected prior to testing can affect accuracy.
Dr. Harlan Krumholz, director of the Yale New Haven Hospital Center for Outcomes Research and Evaluation, said that anyone with coronavirus symptoms should assume they have it, even if they test negative.
Source: “Is a negative COVID-19 test really a negative?” – https://www.businessinsider.com/false-negative-coronavirus-test-accuracy-rates-worry-experts-report-2020-4 and CommonWealth Magazine amiddle@massinc.org – Friday, April 3, 2020
I think I had Corona and I had it bad. In hindsight I should have gone to the ER. Probably had double pneumonia, lost tons of weight, pants falling off, fever, lost taste buds, etc, still ain’t right and its been since 12 Feb. There’s an antibodies test that will hopefully be out and about soon, so the Average Joe can get tested – to see if you had it, versus have it now. If so, so you are likely immune and can go out and about. It’s called herd immunity when tons of people had it and recovered. Now the experts are suggesting tons of people are carrying with no symptoms, and recovering without getting sick, and they think about 15 percent of these so called silent carriers are children. These tests will be a game changer in that we will probably find out that way more people had it and recovered than are diagnosed as having it now, and it will then drive the mortality rate way below its current level.
Berkshire case numbers are wrong should be closer to 270
Why?
Because they are not posting the numbers as quickly as they are getting them. The hospital is holding cases.
What’s the number today? 300
Another interesting local Covid story – Jay Hamling, a 2019 city council candidate, tested positive for SARCOV2 three weeks ago and has already recovered and been cleared to return to work. He is a nurse at Williamstown Commons.
His Facebook post says he “got it from someone who didn’t know he or she had it because that person displayed no symptoms.” This statement leads one to believe that he is able to pinpoint a direct contact with the infected carrier. He didn’t just become infected out of thin air (we can assume).
I share this story because this is the 4th instance of a “recovery story” I’ve come across recently.
The Eagle reported 3 PPD officers have recovered.
The original Clarksburg man (that prompted the sudden shut down in the town) and a second Clarksburg patient have been cleared.
A Hinsdale woman and her boyfriend (now engaged!) have been cleared after mild symptoms.
Jay Hamling, has been cleared to return to work.
So these are the stories we know. Where are the rest of the patients? If 20 people are in the hospital, the ones above are cleared, what’s been the fate of the other 200 or so positive Berkshire cases?
Thanks, PHIL
The one thing the people at highest risk and the numbers unknown are not available,for some reason.
We need family members to start speaking out. It appears the normal sources are unreliable.
So they are going to release thousands of prisoners? And if I may ask, where will they all go? Do they have homes? Will they be on the street desperate for food and shelter and money? Are they going to St. Joes high school?
Or will they be roaming the streets mugging people or breaking into homes for food and comfort? This is why the gun shops sold out, but the elderly who survive the virus may become victim to the hordes of desperate criminals. Vigilante justice will be the new sheriff in town.
Who are these people who are being let out? Do we have names? With the new bail guidelines, no one is being held because they can’t make bail, right? So what are they being held for? Will victims be notified? I wish we had a newspaper to ask these questions.
JAMES
A daily newspaper under our humble direction would assign an investigative reporter to dig out the questions, and then burrow further for the answers. How well has this inmate release been thought of and thought out. Your questions are vital, and answers are even more of concern: Who is getting the “get out of jail free” card? What’s the criteria? Why were they locked up? How much is public safety compromised. What is the effect on the scum out there already leaning toward crime? What about victims and their families? Alas, there is no newspaper to unearth this story.
I am thinking of people who are in jail for “non violent” drug selling. Would drug offenses be included in the people who are released? I also do wonder why only those “progressives” DAs came out in support of this. The others are all against it so what is that all about Dan?
JAMES
I think it’s “all about” politics — not public health or public safety.
You’re not entitled to names. You’re just an average Joe and it would violate their privacy. Everybody else is supposed to stay home, can’t fish on the causeway, walk the track with their spouse etc, and yet rather than keep infected jailbirds quarantined, we are going to let them out to infect us. Only in America.
My opinion very bad idea
This release may be a disaster in the making. I am not confident it has been thought through. There are many ramifications. Your trenchant comment, JD, brings out some of them.
Kind of has the same ring as the movie Platoon. If you’re not seriously injured your’re not going home.
Progressive DAs have a commitment first and foremost to end “mass incarceration.” This is about getting their numbers up any which way they can.
“No mask fro Trump.” “Trump won’t wear a mask.”
As if we need any more evidence of how inane our lamestream media is.
“for”
I hope he does not wear a mask. Nobody in the Whitehouse should wear masks.
Ridiculous comment.
The messiah does not believe in masks and he stated so. He said on national tv that it is optional and HE will not wear one. I know for fact that everyone in the Whitehouse agrees with every thing he says and does so what are you finding wrong with my comment Chuck? Don’t tell me YOU are disagreeing with him.
Disagree with Chuck,again. Trump is saying he doesn’t need a mask and his expert Dr. Falsley touches his face… and less than six feet distancing every time they’re together.Come on Chuck,he Dr. Falsley….needs to walk the talk or don’t say anything at all
Anyone coming near POTUS or VPOTUS is tested for COVID-19
Living this epidemic through the social media experience is far more dangerous than the virus itself. We have shut down our entire country for what will eventually be exposed as a mild-moderate flu for most.
Any fun conspiracy lover remembers the 2016 election and the “meddling” suspected. Four years is a hell of a long time to come up with an even more disastrous infiltration.
They shut down the whole country. Economy collapses, healthcare system collapses. People struggle with poverty, lack of food and resources. Very long term quarantines will result in defiance and anarchy. Eventual civil war. Over a flu virus that 98% of the country has survived thus far.
In the meantime, everyone tries to stay in touch. They download ZOOM (now under investigation for privacy practices). Millions of people everyday allow unfettered access to their workplaces and homes, their private business information and family life. No one see anything wrong with the thought of conducting daily business over an unregulated digital platform.
And guess what, the mic is still on even if you’re not using the app…
For the numbers:
UNITED STATES
FLU SEASON, October-May yearly
2017-2018
61,000 deaths
2018-2019
34,200 deaths
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UNITED STATES
COVID19 SEASON
January 21 – April 4 (current)
5443 deaths
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Other interesting facts:
-Average life expectancy in the US is 78.5 years
-In the US, appx 7500 people die everyday
-In the world, appx 150,000 people die everyday, 100,000 of them being age-related deaths
-20-24% death in the Untied States occur in nursing homes
Great comment, PHIL. Social media just might prove to be the difference between, say SARS, MERS, swine and bird flu, and several other pandemics or “near-miss” pandemics. The presence of social media and its use during COVID-19 will be fuel for many doctoral dissertations. What will be the cost-benefit balance in the final analysis. Was it worth it to shut the ENTIRE ECONOMY down? It might prove to be “yes.” At this point, however, as your comment underscores, the jury is still out and will be for some time. Thanks for a great addition to this discussion.
I am for a short term shutdown, but I think this should have stopped around Easter or a week after. Not the whole month of April. President Trump was right the first time. Two more weeks of shutdown would be sufficient except for the really hard hit spots like New York City, Louisiana, and New Jersey. They should and will take longer to return to normal, but not the rest of the country. Nursing homes too should be on guard for at least a few more months, but overall the economy should start up in another week or two to avoid a great depression which will cause untold misery that the far left and communist China will use to their advantage.
Get yourself on a bus to Florida Pat. They are less strict with all this virus stuff. Go down and help their economy grow.
It’s interesting though. Massachusetts and Florida have almost the exact same number of cases and almost the exact same number of deaths. But, Florida has over 3 times the population. Why the big difference? Have they not caught up? Does sun and warmth play a factor?
I believe it is a matter of the wave coming to us first. But Florida is going to get clobbered bad. They have a high percentage of elderly and have largely ignored the warnings. They have effectively poured gasoline on their state and when the sparks ignite the idiocy of their neglect will be glaring.
Maybe Floridians are healthier despite the fact that they are older than Massachusetts residents.
I agree. More and more it seems like trying to bring our country to economic collapse was engineered by the far left media. Scaring people to shelter in place like in wartime and laughing on social media about the fall of the United States. These people really are evil.
Phil, you pointed out in an earlier post that people that post here should be sourcing their numbers. I don’t doubt your data but please post source.
The point of the letter is to show that the letter merited discussion. Would you get this at any other source?
Correct. That was the point. Some have pointed out that is wasn’t THE PLANET that broke this but public radio and The BB. Lt mw tell you. Radio and BB both gave sanitized summations. They buried the lede, as we say in the business, and presented it so it didn’t even show up. THE PLANET, on the other hand, printed the entire document, in its entirety, uncut and unedited. We also highlighted the troubling sections. No other local medium did that. No other local medium fished out the entire document. In short, we DID break the news. Peer-re-id.
And that is why The Planet has been and will continue to be the GO TO information resource in Pittsfield.
The Eagle, whose reputation for open honest in depth reporting was suspect before the virus, will be even less trusted when this is over. And that is sad because the city does need a newspaper. But no newspaper may be better than one embedded with groups who do not have the best interest of the people.
Good point JA, people don’t want to hear/ read a sugar coated narrative. They want the truth, even if the truth is painful.
Thank you, JA. More people are discovering THE PLANET for this reason. We would never want a surge on traffic because of a virus, but we welcome it because we know our message — which is, as you say, the area’s GO TO source — is resonating. It both amazes and appalls me that The Boring Broadsheet has been so lax in its coverage. The Go-Fund-Me request they put out a few weeks ago was, I’m afraid, the beginning of the end for this once proud institution. As a mainly commercial enterprise, the Eagle had two choices: embed with The Suits or invest in hard-hitting reportage. They chose the former, and are dying a slow death.
CDC is a good source for flu numbers. You’ll find it interesting I’m sure when considering the number of infections, hospitalizations, and deaths.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html
The nursing home statistic comes from this journal:
https://www.jamda.com/article/S1525-8610(08)00172-2/pdf?mobileUi=0
I can’t go back and find every source right now. I apologize. You are right, I should have cited the data. Really though, it’s easily google-able, if you’d like to verify.
Thank you Phil!
Dr. Fauci is deep state…
.https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/whoa-dr-fauci-2017-president-trump-will-challenged-surprise-global-disease-outbreak-video/
Wow! Fauci saw it coming, but the CDC did nothing!?!
Not a coincidence…..
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/johns-hopkins-and-gates-foundation-hosted-coronavirus-pandemic-simulation-last-october/
President stated death numbers coming, big time?. Has he totally lost it?
This next week is critical for us here in the berkshires. We must practice one hundred percent social distancing. That is with our powe. It’s a shame that the parks and fishing venues allow people to congregate, no fish in the lake anyway,dumasses,and you need a license to fish.
Well put!! People in Pittsfield especially, and the county/state/country in general, need to keep home and eep apart. That and soap’n’water will stop this thing fast if — HUGE IF — people wise up. PITTSFIELD ESPECIALLY!
America cant get states to close.What in Gods name are they open for.You must try to logically state why they think these states will risk their state citizens life.I would always point to their ignorance because any other reason is insane
It’s called Fishtancing, not to be confused with Fisting, neither of which the cops care about.
It makes no sense at all to close the north lot at Burbank Park but keep the boat launch lot open. None. All this does is force people into a smaller area. I saw people hanging close on the fishing pier, cars and trucks parked next to each other.
What is the point here?
An illogical and inexplicable decision by the city on this.
Again, WHERE IN HECK IS THE MAYOR? POLICE CHIEF? Tyler has mishandled this every way one can.
Dan, we had a saying in the Army when somebody had left the building, so to speak. They were said to be Out To Lunch – OTL for short. I won’t pass judgment on the chief but Tyers’ been OTL for about 4 years now.
Right on all counts. Stupidity, thy name is Pittsfield bureaucracy.
I am tired and alarmed by all the talk of who hates who. Now is the time for us to come together. Now is not the time to speak about and instigate hatred between groups. That is totally harmful and non-productive. We don’t need to talk about who hates who now, and I doubt it’s true, but even if it is, the rhetoric that speaks about and emphasizes one group hating another does all of us not one bit of good. Please notice when someone does it and consider de-emphasizing their claim. Sowing dissent is harmful. We have enough problems to deal with now without having to deal with those that are seeking to divide us by telling us how much group XYZ hates group ABC. We would all do a lot better by not accepting the dialog of who hates who, no matter which group you listen to. If we do not tolerate that behavior, whoever is doing it, we’ll be a lot better off.
Beautifully expressed, JERRY. I agree 1000%.
After reading this. I apologize for some of my posts.
CHUCK
It take a big man to admit a mistake. Jerry, a lifelong friend, would be the first to embrace you.
Personally, I don’t think any of your posts were particularly offensive or in need of apology.
3 more Berkshire deaths reported today, 253 cases
https://www.mass.gov/doc/covid-19-cases-in-massachusetts-as-of-april-4-2020/download
Jacobs Pillow done.
So how many deaths right now in Berkshire County? And then Pittsfield? I can find 3 in Pittsfield but not a number for the county.
The numbers are all over the place, changing according to no discernible pattern. This is a problem. Without accurate info, the virus wins.
TurboTax launched a free online portal to help people who don’t file taxes get their stimulus check faster
https://turbotax.intuit.com/stimulus-check/?PID=100024933&SID=35871X943606X3d55c363dc2f3b92ebc21ee92858f803&cid=all_cjtto-100024933_int&ref_id=53aea76876e211ea8179033a0a24060c_719005409890091318%3ANyP_.C1AH3zS
We’re not paying this year.
Gezus Oak Hill Rd. Residents,what’s the deal with the pot holes?Worst road in the City.
I hit a whopper on Barker Road yesterday just north of Humane Society probably would’ve killed a kid in a car seat, or at least knocked out a few brain cells, the impact was so forceful.
Frankly, I don’t mind them on Oak Hill Rd (where I live). People use this road as a short cut and speed through. These gorges slow the speeders down. The last speed study showed the average speed to be 47 mph with several speeding over 60 mph and the posted speed limit is 30 mph.
MARK
Pittsfield potholes: The poor man’s speed bumps. Hope you and Lisa are well.
Cops are always monitoring that road. You don’t have sidewalks on O H R. So if the shortcut is used by elder drivers and drivers that go the speed,limit they aren’t welcome either. Classic nimby Tully. Dead end the damn road.
The President says if you have nothing to lose take the malaria vaccine.
The Berkshire Eagle can’t even keep up with their own lies on their own paper.
In one article they say 3 new deaths on saturday but they had already reported 4 new deaths earlier
The number should be 292 not 253, it was 250 days ago.
BHS is under reporting by doing two things, on deaths they won’t say if the person was hospitalized. On count they leave off the county so the case is listed as “unknown” it’s the new trick. They also “accidentally” code it in the system to another county or the place of last residence prior to living in Berkshire county.
76 Active cases according to Tyers dashboard, in city. 3 dead, 10 recovered, not counting me.
https://pittsfield.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/24032353402548bd82559fc577e35ba3
RN,
Just some questions hopefully you will answer these I put them forth to genuinely understand what is being presented.
What does BHS or any Healthcare system get by under reporting? They are not responsible for the Corona crisis so they should not be ducking blame.
If they report accurate or higher under the current guidelines ( yes they are changing by the minute in some cases) they would receive more resources both financial and in equipment including PPE and ventilators so what is in it for them to under report or to hide any cases/deaths?
Are you saying that they are trying to lower the count in an attempt to lose resources and to have the staff further exposed needlessly? What do they gain from that? The overtime for staff in large part will be covered by federal disaster monies they would further diminish that monies if they buried the count
Can you please state any advantages to under reporting?
Thanks in advance and stay safe
Sorry Forget the link in my questions above
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html
Does anyone know if burning permits in PIttsfield will be issued this month? Is that all shut down maybe?
Online. I burned last week.
http://www.bcburnpermits.com/getPermit.php?district=122
By the way. That link was given to me from one of our fine fire fighters over the phone. It’s pretty much impossible to find on the city website. As the locals would say, you can’t get there from here. Bookmark it.
I saw this Gaudet quote in the Eagle: ‘ We’ll start to have some people moving into recovery this week,” she said. “That will be helpful, because once the virus moves through its process, the patient is immune. ’.
Do we know that this is true from science? I heard that Drs were more at risk because of repeated exposure – so young healthy 36 yro nurse passing away is a reflection of this related exposure. I wish these comments From officials gave me greater confidence in the leadership.
On the good news front – some local companies stepping up and growing their medical businesses.
Also, Italy starts to look better so the wave here may slow down.
Stay safe.
It’s not true you are as “immune” to COVID-19 as you are with flus and flu shots
They’ve already identified 8 different strains of two different types.
Thee L and S strain are not close enough to give you immunity from the other.
Thank you for clarifying. Stay well!
This is bad information. Immunity pertains to SARS-COV-2, the virus that causes COVID 19 and all of its current strains. It is too soon to say with certainty that infection leads to immunity and for how long, but Dr. Fauci puts the odds at 99% that there is at least near-term immunity. There is also a risk that the virus evolves and mutates so that the antibodies that provide immunity no longer recognize it, so the immunity process would need to start over. But that is not the case now and Docs are cautiously optimistic looking down the road because the virus seems to mutate slowly and in minor ways.
The Baker administration can’t get any of the numbers right, they covered up nursing home infections and infections at the soldiers home.
They won’t be able to do ctc and they should have been doing it a month ago
https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2020/04/04/baker-massachusetts-covid-19-community-tracing-collaborative
RN
This is a new pattern. The numbers in this state and here in Berkshire County are … what, exactly? They keep changing, with the suspicion (a vlid one) of massive underreporting.
You also cannot have accurate statistics when testing for the Chinese Flu is stopped. Skews the mortality rate %. Of course they know that.
The numbers are really low on purpose. They are batching numbers then releasing them only a few at a time.
They go up by like 9 or 10 a day, consistently? HeLLC no !!!!
There’s only a few new cases today?!? Fuck no we should be at over 300 today. They are doing it on purpose.
Long before the outbreak of this virus there was very little traffic enforcement in the City of Pittsfield. There seems to be absolutely none now. Have like everyone been basically staying home as we have been asked, I still have to do some essential errands periodically. There are so many drivers that must feel that since the roadway traffic is much leaner that they can now put the pedal to the medal and speed to their hearts content. They are blowing stop signs and red lights. Can’t count how many times I have been flipped the bird because I am in their way. When this happens, I check my own speed and I admit, I am going 7 to 10 miles OVER the speed limit myself, yet I am still in their way. Where is our Police Department? These issues are on main roads of Pittsfield. I have seen the State Police pulling over some of them, and I feel like stopping and applauding them. Actually gave a few of them the thumbs up. Just wondering what the State Troopers have that our City cops don’t have, why they are enforcing but Pittsfield is not. Have noticed in my very few excursions that there are usually two to three Pittsfield Police cruisers parked way behind the new BIC building on Silver Lake Blvd. They are there when I head to do my errand and still sitting there on my trip home. Are the Mayor and Chief having them protect the space capsule instead of the residents of Pittsfield? Yet tax bills just came out, I am seeing a total absence from the Administration of Pittsfield, what are we paying for? Keep safe and healthy.
Cops do a lot of other stuff like go to cumbies thirty times a week,or a some loons apartment thirty times a month. They can’t be everywhere. Don’t drive through the causeway,some park in the road,kids running everywhere,dogs sleeping without restraint two inches from the road.
Take a city in the pitts, a progressive mayor, a DA that not only won’t prosecute, but openly advocates letting infected jailbirds out and is supported by the mayor, while our mayor tells the taxpayer to stay in, and a lack of PPE, and you have recipe for the average cop to take a FUKITOL tablet, and sit tight.
The mayor is o k with this performance as long as we’re not no. I
Franklly Stooge,I think our leadership here sucks. Wait till she pisses off those she cannot help with g e cash bailouts. You can only give so much..
AverageCop, thanks for the explanation and it makes sense, don’t blame you at all. Keep safe.
10-4, Roger That
Everybody else is supposed to stay home, can’t fish on the causeway, walk the track with their spouse etc, and yet rather than keep infected jailbirds quarantined, we are going to let them out to infect us. Is Tyer okay with this? We know Harrington is. If I were the average cop, I wouldn’t go out of my way to bust anybody on a good day, let alone in a pandemic. They obviously have no support from the DA or the mayor when it comes to putting away the bad guys.
Training, that is what they have.
British Prime admitted to Hospital. Onota causeway backed up bumper to bumper. Hello Mayor? Mayor?
Roe V Raige, please don’t bother the Mayor. She is in her mansion in her gated community preparing for next Fridays 10 minute press conference.
He she still taking marching orders from Stooge?
Say what you may about Trump. At least he’s facing the music daily, and sometimes for hours, at the press conferences.
he’s a wonderul; man
Jacobs Pillow closed for the 2020 season. What’s next?
The Berkshires is going to feel one of the hardest hits in the state, so dependent on a summer of Arts and Culture.
If you thought the area was depressed before, just wait…
We have to find a balance between respecting and saving the lives of the elderly victims of this pandemic while realizing that there are generations of young people to whom we owe the chance to live their long lives in a country that has not been reduced to rubble. It seems incredibly insensitive, but there is a reason that an 75 year old is not put on a transplant list but a 20 year old is.
I pray for a quick vaccine and treatments options.
Ouch. That hurts.
I’m 76.
Arts and Culture isn’t exactly for the spring break crowd
We’re hearing lots of negative sayings out there. That’s good news. The bad news is worse is yet to come, and we’ll soon see it. I’m referring to the medical ramifications of the virus and how it’s affecting us. The more bad news is economic decisions like printing money cheapening the dollar so savings and investments are destroyed. You’ll see it, and feel it. Just wait! In the meantime, there are decisions that can, and should be, made locally that will make all of it less painful for workers and former workers, meaning taxpayers. What this requires is local elected officials assuming a leadership role. OMG, guys, do something. As a Pittsfield taxpayer of 65 years here’s what they can do – to start. 1) close 2 elementary schools. This can be easily done because of the population decline. Should have been done years ago. 2) There are too many administrative assistants. Lay off 3 of them. 3) Elected officials agree to a 20% decrease in pay. Notice I do not include elimination of your medical payments by taxpayers. Sorry, I know the problem with people but this is government and this happens. This is a start. Come on guys. You can’t hide. There’s a problem here. Get involved.
Great advice, CHUCK. Hey, can we appoint you mayor, because the city doesn’t have one right now.
Three more Berkshire deaths reported, including a woman only in her 60’s.
https://www.mass.gov/doc/covid-19-cases-in-massachusetts-as-of-april-5-2020/download
#StayAtHome #StoryTimeWithThePPD #ReadOrElse Sunday night story time. Chief Wynn reads “The Cat In The Hat.” https://youtu.be/HgtpWqpVXS8
Are you a man, or a goat “Agent 86”.
Dan Casey was a mess today. Some truck named Woodchuck parks in the middle of the road doors open blocking traffic,kids running into traffic and yahoos drinking beer.
And no Corona on the mind
It probably doesn’t make a difference to your type.
Nvm
Get Smart, I see.
My family enjoyed the story, thank you !
It was very special.
It’s good that the gate is locked at the skate park but did they give a key to the cops? Kids have been known to climb fences. What if something happens after hours? Maybe they’ll have to wait for some buffoon from the parks department to show up while someone is bleeding.
The only person I’ve heard complain about the skate park,well he complains about everything,is….The Stooge.
Dan,believe or not years ago there was discussion about a future pandemic talk on the Planet. I don’t recall the year, but a poster spoke about a man who came to the City Council Open Mike and warned us that night and that we had better be ready. I vividly remember him saying to buy canned goods and other essentials to last and even talked about isolation. I could find the comments on your archives but don’t remember the year? Maybe 5 or 6 years ago.
The intent should be to help in the effort to defeat the virus. The mayor has in her pervue to see that hospital, and essential workers in direct contact with Corona are helpedbby banning these gathering venues like parks,fishing on the causeway,skate boarders, at least for a short period.
Her message was a soft,I hope the citizens abide? Distancing.well they don’t abide.Shut Down these sites.
The coverage of COVID19 has become very telling. This past day, we heard breathless accounts about how the daily death toll from coronavirus, which reached over 1,000, was more than double the WORST day of any past flu. That’s interesting. A few years ago 60,000 Americans died in about four months time from the flu. True, that works out to a daily average of 500 per day. But I’m guessing there were concentrated periods where the death toll was much higher than the “average.”
Here is the problem. The media and so many others in the country have now gone “all-in” in regards to using COVID to bring down Trump. While the threat they are playing up is still active. That’s what’s called an un-winnable position.
Pittsfield in a nutshell.