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MAYORAL ‘DEBATE’: A ‘WINNER’ BUT NO VICTORS; FATAL FORMAT DOOMS FORUM

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BY DAN VALENTI

PLANET VALENTI NEWS AND COMMENTARY

(FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE, WEDNESDAY, SEPT. 16, 2015) — THE PLANET knew our declaration of a “winner” in Tuesday’s “forum” would upset, rile, and puzzle people who automatically assumed we would go into the event with concreted presumptions. Obviously, that wasn’t the case.

We declared Dan Bianchi the “winner” of Tuesday night’s mayoral forum. How dare we?

‘I Did a Double-Take’

The following two comments exemplify the criticisms aimed at yours truly. The first came from a PLANET reader. The second came from a Pittsfield office holder.

COMMENT 1

I did a double-take to make sure I was still reading the Planet. Did the GOBs or the TPTB get to you? Dan, you have spent many posts and hours of research showing us poor Mary Jane and Joe Kapanski’s who the mayor aka TES aka mayor McCheese really is and his gross incompetence. Now you think he is being “mayoral” by smooth talking his way through a nearly satirical “debate.” No way. He’s gotta go. I’d vote for anyone else at this point.

Here’s the second, from an Insider:

COMMENT 2

you must have seen a totally different debate than I saw last night.
[Bianchi] couldn’t even give a straight yes or no answer on closing a fire station….dude, come on, I’d think you’d demand better than that.

Right, as if giving a “straight answer” is suddenly in fashion in politics.

THE PLANET went into the debate pretending we hadn’t heard of any of the four —  Bianchi, Linda Tyer, Donna Walto, or Craig Gaetani — determined to judge simply by what we observed at the time on the merits. It’s clear, however, that many “in the stands” couldn’t get out of the way of their own biases.

A ‘Winner?’ How So? THE PLANET Explains

That being said, for you to understand our declaration of Bianchi as the “winner,” you have to grasp how we measured it and by what standard. Our reply to Comment 2 gets at this crucial point. THE PLANET wrote to the sender:

I wasn’t reporting on the quality of the responses (emphasis added). The words the candidates used were of no consequence. They were dead on arrival due to an awful format and a moderator who wasn’t up to the task. I was simply going on style points, and there’s an overwhelming probability that the election will be decided this way. You won’t agree with that, but you are not qualified to know by virtue of your office and being plugged-in to the process and the nature of politics in a near functionally illiterate population. 

In other words, under the arbitrary and inflexible format, the event had no chance to produce a “debate.” Candidates were restricted to 90-second responses, there were no follow-ups, and no opportunity for the back-and-forth that reveals where candidates stand and how they differ.

Having moderated, hosted, refereed, and officiated countless political debates, THE PLANET knew the moment moderator Bill Sturgeon cast the first jittery question that viewers would be fed rehearsed snippets read straight from the notebook. Literally. For the audience, this type of feeding resembled the slopped and plopped chow line in a prison than a decent meal at a good restaurant.

Those sharp enough to read between the lines of yesterday’s review of the “forum” realized what THE PLANET meant in declaring a “winner.” Electorally no one “won” because the stultifying format made victory impossible. This left us with the next best thing: Style points.

Theory and Reality Are Two Different Places

In theory, THE PLANET agrees with those who say it’s not a good way to elect people to office. In practical terms, though, as long as citizens are fed the kind of pap on display yesterday — from the organizers, moderator, and hapless candidates imprisoned in the amber of forced predictability — veneer becomes the determinant. For Bianchi and Tyer, this didn’t matter much, if at all. They had one goal last night: Survive.  It’s the same goal until Tuesday, Sept. 22. Avoid the “gotcha.” Don’t make The Big Blunder. Play if safe. Say little. Duck substantive inquiries. Keep it bland, banal, and non-controversial. And so when we declare “victory” only the surface comes into play: Compared to Tyer (fervent but over-rehearsed and under-coached) Bianchi was smooth and most polished.

For the record, Tyer’s best line came when she addressed the lack of progress at the PEDA site: “Time is important. No more excuses.” Bianchi’s best came in clever shot aimed at Tyer’s personal relationship with Barry Clairmont. The mayor acknowledged his 35 years of marriage and stable family life. He didn’t mention either Tyer or Clairmont. He didn’t have to. Below the belt? No. Politics no longer has a belt.

For Walto and Gaetani, format mattered a great deal. They were forced to play under house rules, and for outsiders of their sort — the kind who won’t buy into time-honored, established, orthodox campaigning — that’s fatal. Good riddance to Walto. How can you take some seriously if they show up late for an event like this?

In the end, the candidates were lined up at the table like four cantaloupes. The shoppers could inspect the outside, examine the surface, and tap the skin, but they weren’t allowed to get inside to see if the fruit was good or rotten.

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“A lot of idiots you are, selling your birthright for a saucer of cold porridge.” — Prison Chaplain (played by Godfrey Quigley), from Stanley Kubrick‘s A Clockwork Orange (1971).

“OPEN THE WINDOW, AUNT MILLIE.”

LOVE TO ALL.

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Jonathan Melle
Jonathan Melle
8 years ago

Why doesn’t a candidate for Mayor of Pittsfield just tell it like it is? Pittsfield politics is totally corrupt. Pittsfield politics only serves the vested interests, who in return reward the politically connected with votes and campaign donations. PEDA has been around since Gerry Doyle was Mayor of Pittsfield in the Summer of 1998. PEDA is 17 years old now. In all of this time, there has been zero business capital investment in PEDA. I still feel Donna Walto, who is a highly educated and accomplished businesswoman, is right to criticize Pittsfield politics on it failures in economic development and crime. If I still lived in Pittsfield, I would vote for Donna Walto!

Jack Daniels
Jack Daniels
8 years ago

Walto? Seriously?

A debate is the closest thing to a job interview. Walto applying for the job of mayor; the people doing the hiring.

What if you show up to a job interview late? You think you’ll get the job?

Being late shows that you think your time is more important than your interviewer’s time. Its rude. Extremey unprofessional. Inconsiderate. Arrogant.

Walto has previously shown the same arrogance when she was arrested for public intoxication, saying to the arresting officer, “Do you know who I am?” As if she was more important than that police officer.

Leaving your entire audience waiting at an event as important as this was not acceptable.
Walto for mayor? I don’t think so.

Paul
Paul
8 years ago

I agree Dan, I was there and saw the same form you did. Walto and Gaetani are done. They came off very poorly and I found it surprising that Walto went to Williams College based on her performance. Bianchi came off looking the best no doubt about it. Tyler was not impressive by any means. I was shocked at how terrible the moderator was.

dusty
dusty
8 years ago

Linda Tyer had notes and very quick responses. So much so that it looked like she knew the questions before hand. Did all the candidates get the questions before hand?

Irishman
Irishman
Reply to  dusty
8 years ago

I attemded the forum and thought the same thing. Ms. Tyer was indeed scripted and read many of her answers. I asked two other candidates and both stated were not given the questions in advance,

Downtown Dweller
Downtown Dweller
Reply to  Irishman
8 years ago

Or, to continue with the job interview analogy, many job searching sites recommend that you find out as much as you can about the place you’re applying to and anticipate some questions based on that info. Ms Tyer has heard what people feel some of the issues are in the city of Pittsfield. Where the questions asked really that much of a surprise to anyone? They pretty much ask the same questions each election cycle.

Mr. Bianchi sounded very rehearsed, as he probably should be after taking up space in that office over the past few years.

I believe that Ms Walto and Mr. Gaetani are really too busy reliving their past glory days (cue Bruce Springsteen here)
to have paid any significant attention to what the city needs now.

Downtown Dweller
Downtown Dweller
Reply to  Downtown Dweller
8 years ago

Oops. Meant “were the questions” not “where the questions”.

Luthor Rex
Luthor Rex
Reply to  Downtown Dweller
8 years ago

Yes, Walto is a Williams grad. When? 40 years ago. Referenced the Fitzpatricks and Mary Flyyn. All dead and gone. She was pathetic. Gaetani is only living 30 years in the past wit hthe water thing. Pathetic minus ten years ..

spagirl
spagirl
8 years ago

Bias is prejudice based on something that’s unfair.
Dan Valenti, in all due respect, your readers were not biased in their summation of Bianchi. Dan Bianchi did not have an impressive performance. Reality is, there is not any strength or teeth in this election. Dan Bianchi has proven himself to have zero leadership and Management skills. He lusts for control, at the expense of anyone and anything. He cannot be given 4 more years……based on his failures. Linda Tyer may have been nervous, but she sees the light, and knows how badly the City needs change. She has the guts, and should be given the chance. We are seriously in need. That is not bias. Bianchi is slick. A snake in the grass.

Dead Kennedy
Dead Kennedy
8 years ago

Walto is heavily favored among dead people.

JFK endorses her. Don’t believe it? Just ask him.
Oh wait……. you can’t.
Mother Theresea endorses Walto. Don’t believe it? Just ask her.
Oh wait…….

Dan you should be ashamed of yourself, going against Mother Theresea’s pick for mayor.

Discreet Cat
Discreet Cat
8 years ago

For the most part, it was a disappointing affair with poor moderating and poor questions, a difficult format if you will, and answers lacking both substance and real understanding for the underlying problems facing Pittsfield. There were no substantive questions relation to fiscal responsibility, where were the pension liability and School budget questions? what about the budget growing faster than our population? It was a good opportunity to promote sustainability and economic developement, all we heard was what was not working but no ideas to remedy it.

Henry LaMere'
Henry LaMere'
8 years ago

Everyone should read iberkshires for an accurate assessment of the debate .

spagirl
spagirl
Reply to  Henry LaMere'
8 years ago

Absolutely accurate, Henry.

spagirl
spagirl
Reply to  Henry LaMere'
8 years ago

Absolutely accurate, Henry. And Bianchi’s platform is a figment of his imagination
He imagines he’s done a great job. He has failed the Taxpayers miserably.

Felix
Felix
8 years ago

I watched. I agree totally with DV. The format prevented anything meaningful, it reduced to a show. Who SHOWED up and who for SHWON up.

Felix
Felix
8 years ago

Should be “and who GOT shown up”
Sorry

She
She
8 years ago

Someone was weed wacking over at the old Pomeroy Dunkin Donuzt Drive through wanna be. How do I know? The wacker hit my car with debree as I drove by.

GMHeller
GMHeller
8 years ago

What is the link to the iberkshires.com report on The Great Debate?

GMHeller
GMHeller
8 years ago

Gaetani, for all of his rants on PlanetValenti, is dead-on re “the best way to help the local companies would be to reduce the tax rates.”

He’s absolutely spot-on when he says “We have to get the personal property rates down and the commercial business rates down,”
And that “We’re going to have to reduce the budget very significantly. To do that it requires sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice by everybody.”

Perhaps Ms. Tyer should glom onto Gaetani’s “four-year plan to reduce the budget every year by 7 percent” because right now Pittsfield is not on any Fortune 500 list as a destination city for growing firms.

Pummelin Pam
Pummelin Pam
8 years ago

@dusty,

Based on what was told to me, the candidates did not have the questions before hand.

From my own limited experience with Linda Tyer’s office she is a good manager and prepares her staff.

It didn’t surprise me that she was prepared for what ever questions came up. Bianchi looked unprepared.

This is exactly what happened concerning the upcoming date of the election. Linda Tyer was prepared well in advance of the Jewish high holidays and proactively contacted the rabbis and resolved the issue. Dan Bianchi was unprepared and tried to score political points with a gotcha that blew up on him.

I’m now officially leaning towards Linda. She will get my vote on 9/22.

She will have to continue to convince me between then and November 3rd.

dusty
dusty
Reply to  Pummelin Pam
8 years ago

I agree that she was prepared. She was almost answering the questions before they were asked. I think maybe she might be friends with the moderator.

Guess what
Guess what
Reply to  dusty
8 years ago

Actually, his friend is Dan Bianchi.

Larrybirdsofafeather
Larrybirdsofafeather
8 years ago

Dan I’m surprised you could hear the debate because all anyone on the left side could do was here you talking into a microphone by yourself while the candidates gave there opening speeches.

Larrybirdsofafeather
Larrybirdsofafeather
Reply to  Larrybirdsofafeather
8 years ago

Nevertheless, I agree that Dan Bianchi came off Mayoral, well polished and looked the part. He was solid.

I thought Linda Tyer came off very well. Rehearsed? Yes, but cmon we are not electing a debate champion we are electing Mayor. It’s not easy being up there.

Walto knocked it out of the park with her solution for bringing in new business. Drive them around in her Cadliac and give business men tours. Can’t make that up.

Gaetani could of brought in 2 billion for just speaking at a conference? Well we need to get him and Dr. Wong in front of the UN because if he could earn Pittsfield 2 billion for just speaking at a water management conference imagine what he could do there.

joetaxpayer
joetaxpayer
Reply to  Larrybirdsofafeather
8 years ago

Crazy thought the Mayor acting Mayoral. Why wouldn’t he?

Jonathan Melle
Jonathan Melle
8 years ago

From what I read, the Pittsfield politics Mayoral debate this past Monday evening centered around economic development. If there was a college textbook on failed economic development, it would be called “Pittsfield, Massachusetts from 1985 – 2015”! Pittsfield politics could care less if young adults find full time, living wage jobs in Pittsfield. Most of the young adults living in Pittsfield are living in poverty and rely on welfare assistance and social services programs. When I was a young adult living in the Pittsfield area, I looked for a job – any job – for over one year of my life from late-May 2002 – mid-June 2003. No one would offer me employment in Pittsfield. I felt like I was on the “unwritten” blacklist. I feel that I would have a better shot winning the lottery jackpot money prize than finding a full time, living wage job in Pittsfield. Those are terrible odds! Pittsfield’s population is shrinking, and the people who stay in Pittsfield are living off of welfare. Pittsfield is known as a high per capita welfare caseload community. Pittsfield is only doing marginally better than North Adams when it comes to poverty, welfare, and social services. I believe about 70 percent of Pittsfield residents live in poverty, while about 80 percent of North Adams residents live in poverty.

EddieP
EddieP
Reply to  Jonathan Melle
8 years ago

Jon..have you ever thought that maybe you did not have the qualifications for the jobs you were seeking? Employers can be quite picky sometimes as I had found out.

Jonathan Melle
Jonathan Melle
Reply to  EddieP
8 years ago

There is a learning curve with every job. My point is that Pittsfield politics has to get real about economic development if they want young adults to stay in the Berkshires without being dependent on welfare, social services, and living in poverty.
I would have made a life for myself in Pittsfield if I obtained a full time, living wage job. It did not happen.

joetaxpayer
joetaxpayer
8 years ago

I think we need a town government. City manager and select board. Let the people have more say. Does anyone know how this could become reality?

Nota
Nota
8 years ago

God Bless America. Save us All.

Also Shaking
Also Shaking
8 years ago

Jonathan, I assume you have found a full time living wage job wherever you are living now.