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LATEST GUN MASSACRE SHOULD CLAIM PROFESSIONAL LIVES AT THE FBI

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BY DAN VALENTI

PLANET VALENTI NEWS AND COMMENTARY

(FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE, MONDAY FEB. 19. 2018) — “I was five, and you were six. / We rode on horses made of sticks. … / Bang, bang. You shot me down. / Bang, bang. I hit the ground. / Bang, bang. That awful sound. / Bang, bang, my baby shot me down.”

What did we know of gunplay’s jagged offices? Enough, apparently, to understand the lethality of actual weapons, to separate play from reality, and to later possess guns or not and not have others have to pay with their lives.

One of THE PLANET‘s favorite toys as a lad had to be our Roy Rogers leather holster. It held two plastic-pearl-handle six-shooters and helped us win many a battle, from Injuns circling the wagons in the back yard to reversing the loss at the Alamo on The Hill. As we grew older, our dad taught us how to shoot his .22 rifle, the German handgun he brought back from the war, and the 30.06 Savage rifle built just down the pike. Actual gunfire, as opposed to our pretend firings, had a power, lethality, and finality that cured us of wanting to own guns when we became of age. It was a personal choice. Dad kept his firearms, and — when as a teen accompanied him on hunting trips to New Brunswick, Canada — he packed the Savage while I shot with a Yashica TX Electro-X 35mm rangefinder.

THE PLANET child knew tons of kids, mostly boys, who loved playing pretend with guns. Our later collection included an arsenal from Mattell: A Fanner 50 Shootin’ Shell pistol and holster, a Colt .45 Army gun, and a Winchester that could take dummy bullets and eject them when you cocked the lever for your next shot. Dad made his three boys machine guns from plywood in his woodworking shop. We played endless games of army, cowboys and Indians, cops and robbers, and various other games that weren’t about gunfire but the strategy involved in defeating the other side. The point is, again, that our elders made the distinction clear between pretend guns and the actual thing, a lesson our active and maturing minds could esily absorb.

Far from being damaged by the knowledge, we grew up able to separate fiction from fact, a skill largely lost today on virtual-reality youth, a lesson further driven home by the many dramas and teleplays on TV during the 50s and 60s featuring Westerns, war, detectives, and other adventurous situations involving gunfire. Why, when George Reeves as Superman broke through another brick wall to foil the bad guys, he took their bullets in such cavalier fashion that we didn’t think twice about it. On the contrary, we donned a beach towel as a cape, stood in from of a window fan to get the cape rippling, and became Superman ourselves. Not once did we actually try to fly or step in front of a live round.

THE PLANET shares all this in light of the most recent mass murder, at a Florida high school. The aftermath brought out the usual politicking, with liberals calling for more gun laws and conservatives pointing out the need for better identification of the sick bastards most likely apt to go off on a rampage. A person who knew the 19-year-old Florida shooter all but sent the FBI a replay video from the crystal ball that showed the shooter mowing down people like kewpie dolls. The blood and gaping wounds appeared real. The FBI, however, failed to follow protocol, and the tip was never acted upon despite a massacre being spelled out in triplicate and in Braille. This wasn’t a failure of process but of people, namely, the FBI officials who blew it, costing 17 people their lives and horrific emotional damages to countless family, friends, and relatives.

The FBI’s failure should come with a figurative death sentence for agency director Christopher Wray and every manager and agent in the FBI’s Florida division who messed up so badly. Fay Wray could have done a better job. Even a cross-dressing J. Edgar Hoover would have been able to act promptly, skirt and all. And speaking of which, where was Efrem Zimbalist Jr. when we really need him?

Going back to the FBI’s failure to act on the telegraphing of the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 to the politicization of the agency that occurred under President Clinton, Bush II, and President Obama, American citizens can now stay up at night worried that this public-safety agency has become an enemy of the people. We can also grind our stomachs knowing with certainty that young Mr. Cruz’s massacre will be repeated again. The only questions are when, where, and how many? Perhaps this will embolden President Trump to order that heads roll at the FBI.

One final point: the social media and video games that have desensitized young people to gun violence could be flushed down the crapper with no loss to society or the country. What’s “Grand Theft Auto” and worse next to “Bonanza” or “The Roy Rogers Show?”

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Although your mind’s opaque, / try thinking more if just for your own sake” — George Harrison, The Beatles, “Think for Yourself.”

“OPEN THE WINDOW, AUNT MILLIE.”

LOVE TO ALL.

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gocometti
gocometti
6 years ago

CELLAR DWELLERS MAKE UP TO MANY HOUSEHOLDS…
THEY ARE YOUNG UNEMPLOYED YOUTH WHO PLAY TOO
MANY VIDEO GAMES WHERE THEY PRACTICE KILLING.
IT WILL BE VERY HARD TO CHANGE THEIR OUTLOOK ON
LIFE AND DEATH IN OUR SOCIETY WITHOUT EDUCATION

mi
mi
6 years ago

Time to drain the swamp of politicians who take donations from the NRA.

Jonathan Melle
Jonathan Melle
6 years ago

The NRA spent tens of millions of dollars towards the campaign to elect Donald Trump as the 45th U.S. President. The NRA spent tens of millions of dollars electing many Members of U.S. Congress. It is all blood money that Trump and Members of U.S. Congress drunk down with greedy thirst! The politicians have failed us when it comes to mass shootings, shootings, and domestic violence shootings!
– Jonathan Melle

Gigi
Gigi
Reply to  Jonathan Melle
6 years ago

Only a fool would blame the NRA for this latest school shooting. I agree with Dan – heads need to roll at the FBI. They have already admitted that big mistakes were made on their part. This kid issued cries for help – and while the cries were reported to the FBI – their inaction is responsible for this horrific event.

Taking away guns from American citizens is not the answer. Look at Chicago, a city with the strictest gun control laws in the nation. This city has been run by liberal Dems for years. Now the criminals are the only ones who are armed. And the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy locked and loaded.

Jonathan Melle
Jonathan Melle
Reply to  Gigi
6 years ago

They are all to blame, including the NRA and FBI! Mass shootings like the recent one in Parkland, Florida are tragedies!

Thomas More
Thomas More
Reply to  Jonathan Melle
6 years ago

Another blanket statement. Maybe if you would go where kids are you would see that a large number of them work very hard and take their lives seriously. Praise hurts no-one and where are they all being praised as geniuses? Take the time to go into the schools and you would find that there are hundreds of kids that want to learn and do well in life. There are also hundreds of pukes that do there best to disrupt the place. I grew up during the depression and the Indian wars were barely over but I can still see that there are an awful lot of good kids around. Sadly, they can’t go outside with toy guns and play Cowboys and Indigenous People.

Pat
Pat
Reply to  Gigi
6 years ago

Remember the outcry from Democrats after 9/11 that we should not sacrifice our freedom for safety. That was after 3,000 people were murdered in cold blood, but the Dems were all about the freedom. I agreed with them. What happened to that message? They realized that big government needs to have people unarmed. That should scare all Americans.

We should make background checks much stricter, however, and the FBI and states need to coordinate their information MUCH BETTER. Some top people at the FBI should be fired. Hollywood should stop the violent gun films. Schools should also be much better protected in case of any violence.

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Pat
6 years ago

After 9/11 the Democrats were all about making war and opening up spying on US citizens.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

Wrong. The democrats were all about cowaring and hiding.

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

they passed the war in Iraq and the Patriot Act right along with the republicans.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

they had no choice. popular sentiment and were dragged kicking and screaming like the women they are

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

Good thing to know you are a macho chauvinist.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

Good thing you arent a real man

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

back to insults

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

Nope wrong again just stating facts

The school committee
The school committee
Reply to  Pat
6 years ago

Democrats were right and you lost all your so called privacy passing the republican patriot act.Dont compare the mass murder capacity of a retail weapon to the patriot act.

V P of Lurning
V P of Lurning
Reply to  The school committee
6 years ago

Valenti is simply the best.

Paul
Paul
6 years ago

We shove violent video games down our childrens throats, teach them to show no respect for their school or teachers, praise them for accomplishing nothing and teach them to be offered at any foolish thing they don’t like. Then act surprised when one of our self made nut jobs goes off the deep end.
Now the liberals are screaming for more gun laws and gun bans when they should be screaming about how to report nut jobs and actually do something about them. But then again they don’t want to offend anyone. Maybe they can make more safe places so our children don’t have to learn how to deal with anything.

Harrison
Harrison
Reply to  Paul
6 years ago

Sounds like the kids are screaming for it. The majority can’t vote yet so not sure you can classify as liberal. Maybe in 2020.

Gigi
Gigi
Reply to  Paul
6 years ago

I agree 100% Paul!

Thomas More
Thomas More
Reply to  danvalenti
6 years ago

This was supposed to be a reply Dan Valenti down below. Somehow it ended up here. I’ll try again.
Another blanket statement. Maybe if you would go where kids are you would see that a large number of them work very hard and take their lives seriously. Praise hurts no-one and where are they all being praised as geniuses? Take the time to go into the schools and you would find that there are hundreds of kids that want to learn and do well in life. There are also hundreds of pukes that do there best to disrupt the place. I grew up during the depression and the Indian wars were barely over but I can still see that there are an awful lot of good kids around. Sadly, they can’t go outside with toy guns and play Cowboys and Indigenous People.

The school committee
The school committee
Reply to  danvalenti
6 years ago

The American worker and those that enter every year down to age 16 have never been more productive,this generation is not nieve as were the planets and they are the smartes by 5 times the planets generation

dusty
dusty
6 years ago

He should have been corralled long before the FBI even knew he was alive. Lots of blame to go around. At least the FBI accepted some blame…

Trump wants to bash the FBI because they are watching him. Thank god someone is.

And keep in mind that only ten days after he was elected, the very first thing Trump did, was to do away with an Obama law that restricted people with mental problems from getting guns. That is true as hard as it is to believe. Why on Gods green earth would you do that???

Harrison
Harrison
Reply to  dusty
6 years ago

Because the bill had Obama’s name on it

dusty
dusty
Reply to  Harrison
6 years ago

Exactly. Trump feels incredibly inferior in Obama’s shadow so he feels the need to discredit him at every turn. The old tear another person down to make yourself look better tactic. Pathetic and sad at the same time.

Pat
Pat
Reply to  dusty
6 years ago

It was the Obama administration that was in bed with Russia. That information is now being revealed, but very slowly since it implicates not only Obama, but also Hillary.

Mr. G
Mr. G
Reply to  Pat
6 years ago

Stop Pat.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Pat
6 years ago

you stop “mr. g” – you are not. Pat is right. You cannot refute it.

Ron Kitterman
Ron Kitterman
6 years ago

Harry G. Frankfurt, Professor Emeritus, Yale University
(From his book, On Bullshit) “Someone who lies and someone who tells the truth are playing on opposite sides, so to speak, in the same game. Each responds to the facts as he understands them, although the response of the one is guided by the authority of the truth, while the response of the other defies that authority and refuses to meet its demands. The bullshitter ignores these demands altogether. He does not reject the authority of the truth, as the liar does, and oppose himself to it. He pays no attention to it at all. By virtue of this, bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are.”

Thomas More
Thomas More
Reply to  Ron Kitterman
6 years ago

Down with bullshit.

Wilson
Wilson
6 years ago

Every government employee is just there to warm a chair and wait for the pension, replacing one with another is only symbolic.

Thomas More
Thomas More
Reply to  Wilson
6 years ago

Every government employee?

Still Wondering
Still Wondering
Reply to  Wilson
6 years ago

Jealous much?

Cos
Cos
6 years ago

Yup, kids take video games seriously, yup, cancel sales of video games, in the billions of video games Immediately. At least Paul Kersey stuck with his hand gun and Rambo, his knife,ideas on how to kill have gone way back to T V shows like Gunsmoke, it’s the tool AR-15 that killed in mass,anyone that kills or thinks of killing is a nut.

Paul
Paul
Reply to  Cos
6 years ago

Cos, there is a hell of a difference between Gunsmoke and today’s interactive video games. Nobody thinks we should ban video games however there sure would be no downside to toning them down. Todays graphics are very realistic not to mention new wearable technology. It most certainly numbs the brain and makes killing seen like it’s no big deal.

Pat
Pat
Reply to  Paul
6 years ago

I agree. Virtual killing makes it all seem so real with no consequences. Young people who are disturbed in any way could be very negatively influenced by these violent games. The Sandy Hook shooter was heavily involved with violent video games before his rampage.

Paul
Paul
Reply to  Pat
6 years ago

Well said Pat

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Paul
6 years ago

Paul and Pat are prestige level 8 at COF Modern Warfare…. They bully little kids online.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Paul
6 years ago

Wrong again. I believe you try to do the bullying, but area failure at that as well

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Paul
6 years ago

it was sarcasm, a literary technique. My point was I don’t Believe Pat and Paul play video games.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Paul
6 years ago

You arent smart enough to use sarcasm

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Paul
6 years ago

Back to this game again?

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Paul
6 years ago

What game pointing out you are always wrong and well left of normal people?

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Paul
6 years ago

no, the personal insults and lies instead of a mature conversation.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Paul
6 years ago

I have not told one lie

The school committee
The school committee
6 years ago

….Govenor Scott of Florida investigated his internet threats and deemed him safe.

The school committee
The school committee
6 years ago

Teacher contract negotiations underway and 33%live out of town and the council and school committee will fold on raises and WW2 vets will pay the salary of 70k per year on their 2150 k per month…..look at that council and ask yourself which person will defend the 90 year old vet on SS….just Morandi has the balls

dusty
dusty
Reply to  The school committee
6 years ago

If these councilors want to keep their health insurance and other perks they will toe the union line and vote for whatever the hell the school union asks for. While it is true they were elected by the people and took an oath of office to do right by the people, they do lean towards taking care of their own interests first.

Do not count on their help to save their own city…it is a me first council starting at the middle seat.

Unwanted Carl
Unwanted Carl
6 years ago

It will be our kids that the future of hate and mass destruction will be reduced with newer, stricter laws that will ban sales of these types of weapons. Politicians like Mitch McConnell has received millions over the years from NRA,Trump nor anyone else can stop Mass shootings, like Vegas,and the recent Florida massacre,but the Youth who spoke out at the rally convinced me that something has to be done,it will be those kids who will decide the future not Mitch McConnell or any other money grabber who’s votes are influenced by big money lobbyists.

Mr. G
Mr. G
Reply to  Unwanted Carl
6 years ago

Well said Carl. Thereisno reason for anyone to own an AR aside from killing multiple people and causing mayhem. All the normal NRA bromides do not work in this case. We’re not aiming to take away your precious guns, just the ones that are designed solely for mass destruction. The only justification for owning such is deep paranoia.

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  Mr. G
6 years ago

Millions of AR style rifles fire millions of rounds an inanimate targets every week. Blunt objects and knives are used in more killings than AR rifles. If they are manufactured to kill people they must be a poor design as only a tiny fraction of rounds fired from AR rifles are fired at people. You are more likely to die from a medical mistake than from being shot with an AR. Medical mistakes kill 400,000 Americans every year.

Thomas More
Thomas More
Reply to  12 Gauge
6 years ago

It’s time to keep the doctors out of the schools and pass legislation banning blunt objects.

dusty
dusty
Reply to  Mr. G
6 years ago

Thorough background checks. No 30 round magazines. No assault rifles. No sales to mentally disturbed people.

Sounds like an easy compromise to me. If you need an assault rifle and high capacity magazine to hunt you are not a hunter at all. In my younger days I hunted a lot and with many different hunters. I can’t imagine any of them would have considered it sport to use an assault weapon or high capacity mags while hunting. But back then men were men.

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  dusty
6 years ago

The second amendment has nothing to do with hunting.

The school committee
The school committee
Reply to  12 Gauge
6 years ago

Or AR15s

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  12 Gauge
6 years ago

Wrong buffoon

Cos
Cos
Reply to  dusty
6 years ago

One shot one kill, that’s the hunter creed.

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  Cos
6 years ago

A semiautomatic rifle is more effective for hunting as it recoils less than a non semiautomatic therby reducing the chance that a hunter might flinch.

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Cos
6 years ago

Go back to physics class, 12 gauge:

Facts about Recoil, and Guns for People who are Sensitive to Recoil
Published by the LearnAboutGuns.com Author on April 28, 2008 at 8:19 pm
LearnAboutGuns.com > How-To Guides and Other Info > Facts about Recoil, and Guns for People who are Sensitive to Recoil

Having discussed how firearms are the great equalizer, enabling a 90 pound grandmother to defend herself against a 250 pound home invader, I thought it would be proper to discuss which guns are best for those sensitive to recoil.

Sensitivity to recoil affects many people, and can be the result of injury, old age, small physical size, or just a dislike of recoil itself. I personally tend to enjoy recoil, at least for the first couple dozen shots fired at the range, but I do understand why some people dislike it. With that understanding, I’ll first address the factors which determine the recoil felt when a gun is fired, means of reducing the recoil felt by the shooter, and guns best suited to those sensitive to recoil.

How Recoil is Determined
Recoil is an expression of Newton’s third law of motion, which is often paraphrased as “for each action there is an equal and opposite reaction.” In other words, the bullet/shot and hot gases go forward, and the gun goes backwards. Various factors pertaining to the gun and bullet/shot determine not only the actual recoil energy that the shooter must absorb, but also subjective amount of recoil the shooter feels that they have experienced. I won’t get into the physics behind these facts for the sake of brevity, however this is basic high school physics. These factors which determine recoil are:

The mass of the gun – All things being equal, a heavier gun will have softer recoil.
The mass of the projectile – All things being equal, a lighter bullet/shot will have softer recoil.
The speed of the projectile – All other things being equal, a faster bullet will have heavier recoil, and the recoil will feel subjectively ‘sharper’, since the recoil happens more quickly.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Cos
6 years ago

12 Gauge just ignore him. he thinks he is smart because he can find whatever left wing propoganda he wants on the web and cut and pastes it. he has been doing it for years.

Sign of a weak mind

levitan
levitan
Reply to  Cos
6 years ago

Shakes,

The physics that you invoke are well known to engineers of firearms. Hence, stocks are frequently designed to absorb recoil. Ever wonder how a cannon fires a shell without rolling off the other side of a ship?

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Cos
6 years ago

right, but none of these physics have anything to do with the rate of fire.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Cos
6 years ago

Yes they have everything to do with it. You are always wrong

RJD
RJD
Reply to  Mr. G
6 years ago

I lurk here a lot just to be entertained but today I feel I have to comment. If you don’t know the difference between an AR (armalite rifle), a hunting rifle and a M16 you shouldn’t open your mouth and removed all doubt about your ignorance on the subject. In Massachusetts and most other states you CANNOT own an Assault rifle. That is a select fire fully automatic m-16 or M-4 rifle or their equivalents. There is no difference between a consumer semi-automatic and a so-called consumer AR type rifle. They are both used for hunting and target shooting just the same. Because one looks different than other really has NO bearing. There have never been more ignorance on the subject than in the news or grandstanding politicians, even idiots here who point to the type of gun as being the root of all evil. Concentrate of the real problem and it’s not the type of gun. And for you short term memory deprived folks, killers like Timothy James McVeigh and the Tsarnaev Brothers found a way without shot. The criminally insane, martyrs and mentally unstable will find a way unless stopped. Put the resources there instead of looking like an idiot on TV or FB with a Sporting rifle in your hand.

Pat
Pat
Reply to  Mr. G
6 years ago

Assault rifles would be just the beginning for Progressives. Their true goal is to ban all guns.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Mr. G
6 years ago

you are incorrect. You are able to do so legally.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Mr. G
6 years ago

untrue. that is not the only reason.

Harrison
Harrison
Reply to  Unwanted Carl
6 years ago

Right. The good news for anyone okay with selling ARs at least to our youth should rest assured that nothing will change in the next two years.

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  Unwanted Carl
6 years ago

Teacher’s unions contribute far more to politicians than does the NRA.

The school committee
The school committee
Reply to  12 Gauge
6 years ago

And the weapons law the teachers union is promoting…

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  The school committee
6 years ago

What weapons law? They have all the money so they should pass your buffoon weapons law.

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  12 Gauge
6 years ago

fake news, teacher unions spent $32M on campaigns while the NRA spent $60 M on campaigns and other outside activities.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

you are fake news shakes. that is not true.

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Steven Dean
6 years ago

its all public records.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Steven Dean
6 years ago

It is not. You are fake news

The school committee
The school committee
6 years ago

Mazzeo,Connell, Morandi appear to be the 3 people in this city capable of handling a budget.The other are politician s wanting to be liked and saying yes to the circle of friends.Cacamo does not pay realestate bills

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
6 years ago

This election cycle, the political influence of labor unions seems greater than ever. Just consider the following numbers. The AFL-CIO union federation contributed $14.6 million to super PACs. The National Education Association has donated $18.1 million and spent an additional $1.4 million. And the Service Employees International Union has donated $19 million.

Those are eye-popping sums. As the Wall Street Journal recently reported, organized labor on the whole has spent more money on this election ― steering its cash overwhelmingly to Democratic candidates ― than ever before. Overall, labor unions have donated more than $132 million to super PACs and spent an additional $35 million on federal elections.

John Duns Scotus
John Duns Scotus
Reply to  12 Gauge
6 years ago

The AMA spends tons of money on politics too.

Harrison
Harrison
Reply to  12 Gauge
6 years ago

Money out of politics. Another thing that will never change.

The school committee
The school committee
Reply to  12 Gauge
6 years ago

Your against union wages

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  The school committee
6 years ago

I didn’t make any statement about union wages. My statement is that unions contribute much, much more than the NRA to politicians.

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  12 Gauge
6 years ago

Fake News

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

Wrong again. That is the truth. You are fake news

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

in 2016, NRA $60M and Teachers Unions $32M

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

more fake news from left wing outlets

levitan
levitan
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

Shakes,

$60 million represents the interests of a very large group of citizens who contribute to the organization. In comparison, the $30 of The Teachers’ Union seems outsized, and it stands on shaky ground, by representing a special interest, not a Constitutional one.

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

actually, they are pretty close in size… there are about 2.5 million teachers in unions and about 3 million estimated NRA members. Taken as a proportion of population, they are not much different.

RJD
RJD
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

Shakes you seem to be the site idiot but there are 5 million NRA members just in the US.

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

Okay, cite your source. So there are twice as many NRA members as unions teachers. Still vs the population a small percentage. Go get bent.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

You get bent. you are always wrong. Stop using made up fake news facts

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

cite a source for the membership number. you cant and wont

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

its already cited. You are spouting fake news

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

no it isn’t cited. I’ll eat my words, but there is no credible report from the NRA about their membership. We will get Trumps tax returns before we get hard membership facts from the NRA

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

Yes it is cited

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

where is it cited? do you understand what cited means?

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

It is cited right there. Look deeper. You are not very smart.

Mr. Fritz
Mr. Fritz
6 years ago

17 states allow teachers & other adults to carry loaded guns on school grounds with written permission from the principal or school board. MA is one of those 17 states. The best idea I have heard regarding protecting our schoolchildren is to recruit paid/volunteer teams of active/retired law enforcement, vets & military personnel as posted guards in our schools.

And, you guessed it, the Florida school was a gun-free zone. The Gun-Free School Zone Act of 1990 was introduced by Biden and signed into law by HW Bush. According to the Crime Prevention Resource Center, 98% of US mass shootings occur in gun-free zones.

The school committee
The school committee
6 years ago

Stop selling these weapons of war,

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  The school committee
6 years ago

Name an army or country that issues AR-15 rifles.

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  12 Gauge
6 years ago

Tell us which war the AR-15 was issued in.

Levitan
Levitan
Reply to  The school committee
6 years ago

It’s exceedingly difficult and expensive to obtain a destructive device. If you need to ask what that is, please get off your horse and choose a smaller steed.

h
h
6 years ago

I get the right to bear arms,but if you can’t control the good A R users,how are you going to stop the mass shootings? It’s impossible.

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  h
6 years ago

An 1873 Winchester could be used for a mass shooting. The problem is do nothing FBI and full data on prohibited persons not being entered into the background check system.

http://fixnics.org/about.cfm

Unwanted Carl
Unwanted Carl
6 years ago

So, I’m flipping channels this morning and I see our Mayor trying to reduce trash, spending millions and on the other channel Gartani is explaining how we can go forward on needless proposed 80 and 70 million dollar project, this is almost comical, if it didn’t affect my future residency because we can’t afford this no sense.

h
h
6 years ago

Carl, only a City like this is where we have good people like the Planet and others, water specialists, and reugultion experts, and a builder of the specificwager plant willing to help,but we hire inept inqualified people who have no knowledge, get a huge salary-salaries and continue to fumble the ball when it comes to the taxpayer’s we’ll being,and why these Increases, that can obliterate the common everyday worker for the pleasures of the rich and special interests.

Thomas More
Thomas More
Reply to  h
6 years ago

Spot on h. I’m not sure what a specificwager is but that is one hell of a sentence.

Levitan
Levitan
Reply to  Thomas More
6 years ago

It’s likely slang for’ specified water’

Not to be boring, but I suspect that h’s infernal device’s auto-correct is set on with mode.

Levitan
Levitan
Reply to  Levitan
6 years ago

Oops, …auto-correct is set on auto-destruct. Mine does it too.

h
h
6 years ago

Thank u Tommy and love you’re posts,I can’t afford spell check outer, and only went to 10 th grade,out of town.

U
U
6 years ago

And what do u love about Moore’s posts?

May Hemm
May Hemm
Reply to  U
6 years ago

I think the Russians are the only decipherer that could actually decipher h posts It comes out garbled but usually makes sense. Moore on the other hand, is a genius. As is Gaetani.

amandaWell
amandaWell
6 years ago

Planet is a the genius also, thank goodness we can explain our pain somwhere. Did you ever notice most smart people do things for free.

Unwanted Carl
Unwanted Carl
6 years ago

Looks like Kushner was mixing business and pleasure. Or should I say business and business.

dusty
dusty
Reply to  Unwanted Carl
6 years ago

What pleasure? Did he get himself all peed on by the young ladies like dad-in-law?

Jonathan Melle
Jonathan Melle
6 years ago

February 19, 2018

Re: Open letter to the Boston Globe Editorial Idiots

Dear Boston Globe Editorial Idiots:

In response to your editorial endorsing the “deaccession” of priceless art by the Berkshire Museum in Pittsfield, it is a shakedown! I grew up in Pittsfield where my father was involved in Pittsfield politics decades ago. My observations from that time and now is that Pittsfield politics shakes everyone down for money to serve their own selfish political purposes.

Ideally, a locality would use public dollars to invest in institutions and its people. However, Pittsfield politics has always done the opposite. To be clear, they use public dollars to shakedown taxpayers to stay in power by investing in the vested and special interests, specifically the “Big 3”, which consist of the public school, police, and fire unions.

The Berkshire Museum is selling two Norman Rockwell paintings the artist once donated himself, in addition to several Hudson River artworks, among many other historic art pieces to grow its endowment. Never underestimate the power of greed! The power elite in Pittsfield politics supporting this done deal will fill the coffers of their friends in the banking, construction, and political fields.

The Boston Globe Editorial Idiots should not have used the phrase “museum police” to describe the majority of people who have dissented against this travesty that will set a precedent for other museums and not-for-profit organizations to sell their assets to fill their coffers during financial hardship. I endorse free speech and the power of dissenting voices when politicians and bureaucrats exploit the people and their institutions for their own selfish ends.

Over the decades, I have grown frustrated by the Boston Globe Editorial Idiots concerning their support of the “Big Dig”, “Romney-care”, and now the Berkshire Museum shakedown!

– Jonathan Melle

gocometti
gocometti
6 years ago

The Berkshire Museum is a PRIVATE NON PROFIT…not a public non profit and can do anything it wants… although long range
institutional fundraising is the answer not deaccession of its
collection a short sighted solution to a long term problem…face it
Jan Shields is not a fundraiser…he’s a big money guy with no talent

H
H
6 years ago

Art that was donated in 1959 should never find a final destiny to anyone who just came on the scene. This is the People’s Art and should stay withthe people.

U
U
6 years ago

Dan,I thought some of your readers would be interested in the type of project that Mr. Gaetani has been involved with over the years. Check this link out

http://www.hazenandsawyer.com/news/croton-water-filtration-plant-activated/

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  U
6 years ago

There is no documentation to support his claims of involvement. Furnish some documents and I will eat my words.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

The link shows plenty of documentation. You are wrong again

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Steven Dean
6 years ago

Nope, And I guarantee nobody at Hazen ever heard of Bozo Gaetani

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

Yes it does. You are wrong yet again

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

put Gaetani in the search function of their website and zero results.

Mr. Fritz
Mr. Fritz
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

Gaetani, that article proves nothing. I agree with Shakes – prove your claims with documentation.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

He has proved it. Shakes – as usual – is always wrong

Gobsig
Gobsig
Reply to  U
6 years ago

The engineers in charge of that project studied at the Krofta institute in Lenox where Gaetani was an instructor.

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Gobsig
6 years ago

nope, they weren’t.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

YES they were

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Steven Dean
6 years ago

Nope not even a little bit.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Steven Dean
6 years ago

Yes they totally were

justathought
justathought
6 years ago

I’m a gun owner.
But it’s far to easy in this country to get a gun. Something needs to change. I’m so sick of seeing the faces of children in the news. Those could be any of our kids. I would gladly give up my weapons if this would change things..
Just a thought…

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  justathought
6 years ago

Whenever someone starts a statement with “I’m a gun owner”….. Put on your bullshit proof vest.

dusty
dusty
Reply to  12 Gauge
6 years ago

or when their user name is 12 gauge?

levitan
levitan
Reply to  dusty
6 years ago

Won’t fit through mine. I’ll be putting my trash in the neighbor’s tote.

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  dusty
6 years ago

Dusty, are you a Russian troll or do you just drink too much Russian vodka?

Gobsig
Gobsig
Reply to  12 Gauge
6 years ago

Good one 12 Gauge. They’re a little like those who say “some of my best friends are Black.”

dusty
dusty
6 years ago

Are the toters being snuck in through the back door?

levitan
levitan
Reply to  dusty
6 years ago

Won’t fit through mine. I’ll be putting my trash in the neighbor’s tote.

(Missed the bin…)

dusty
dusty
6 years ago

According to iberkshires Pittsfield wants to use its recently collected community Preservation funds to fix up the Taconic high school track and baseball fields. I had no idea that is what the fund was for but as soon as that money came in we had to find a contractor to give it to. Tax and spend.

Harrison
Harrison
Reply to  dusty
6 years ago

Sounds like a good project for a trade school. Know of one?

Madame Du Barry
Madame Du Barry
6 years ago

Thanks for the clip on the water plant,big money there mister. No wonder the Consultants are recommending bigger and newer and more expensive. And the Mayor and some C C can’t wait to hand it over to them. Let’s talk about this.

The school committee
The school committee
6 years ago

Connell, Mazzeo,Morandi need to safeguard the Taxpayers checkbook,.The rest of them must not be allowed near the checkbook including the mayor.The schools will soon announce that Mr Sheran will tell his teachers to work to rule in order to pressure the WW2 vets to handover their retirement check to the teachers.The only shot we have is Mazzeo,Morandi Connell

h
h
6 years ago

Here’s that conversation….Well,our teachers are the lowest paid blah blah, and these increases are way overdue, we have to be way behind other communities in salaries and we have to attract our home grown teachers to stay here as an incentive, blah blah blah…

Levitan
Levitan
6 years ago

Since the dominant topic is firearm policy and public murders by deranged youths, here’s my proposal.

1) AR15 is banned for sale on account there appears to be a culture of crime amongst the deranged (not amongst the 99.9999% reliable user)

In exchange, we agree to the following policies:

1: Purchased of high load (large chambered round) rifles and handguns to buyers under 25 are preferred by a review of school records, social media posts to highlight the disturbed buyer.

2: Schools be staffed by retired/discharged military personnel trained in crisis situation and capable of discerning disturbed individuals within civilian populations. This proposal benefits Those Vets needing work that bridges military experience and everyday civilian life. It would put a dent in opiate abuses occurring in schools. And, it could provide positive role models for young men and women lacking effective adults at home.

3: Those flagged for prohibition are potential candidates for psychological evaulation.

We reintroduce the mental institutions closed during the 70-80’s and find a place for those who are ‘too dangerous to own a firearm’ but are safe to walk freely amongst us (????)

The Second Admendment shall not be infringed, as written in the Constitution, but the Constitution does not protect you from poking, prodding, and evaulations following g public statements of terrorist intent and terrifying teachers.

3: The media should be censored from publishing photos of the murderers and publishing their names. Censorship to prevent dissemination of news is attack on the Constitution, but adherence to taboo (language, sexual content) is conventional.

So, here’s my policy proposal that fairly addresses concerns regarding the culture of firearms as well the underlying lack of direction that both encourages and protects the mentally ill.

Harrison
Harrison
Reply to  Levitan
6 years ago

Good compromise.

U
U
Reply to  Levitan
6 years ago

U should run for Congress.

dusty
dusty
Reply to  Levitan
6 years ago

New proposal. You are under 21 and you show up at a gun store looking for an AR-15. The owner hands you your gun, and a pick up truck load of ammo. Then you are placed on a troop loader and dropped off in Somalia with 3 days k rations and a picture of your dog.

levitan
levitan
Reply to  dusty
6 years ago

As stated by others, an AR15 is too ineffective for Somalia – the land where fully automatic AK’s go to breed.

The problem lies in culture of media exploitation of crisis to satisfy it’s own interests and a health policy that commits responsibility of the dangerously mentally ill to their own and families. If the AR-15 is a part of the problem, which it likely is not, it may need to be addressed. These killers are largely young men, so reviewing the pool of young men is a reasonable profile technique.

Removing the violently disturbed from homes that have firearms or not is sensible medical policy. The latest guy was reportedly non-compliant with his medications. Would that happen in observed state?

We do need to get off the ‘guns are evil’ drumbeat that results in polarizing policy, expensive and unconstitutional burdens, and no approaching the loose killers that lurk in the schools, malls, and workplaces.

NIB
NIB
Reply to  levitan
6 years ago

Guns per se are not evil. But certain makes are. Assault style weapons are made for one purpose – to kill as many people as possible in the smallest amount of time. That is evil. Other guns are made for personal protection or hunting. Those I’ve no problem with.

levitan
levitan
Reply to  NIB
6 years ago

Isn’t the application of outrageous intent to an object’s merit risky? How does it lead to success in stopping mass murder?

I could support banning AR 15 only if it is part of a comprehensive approach to a segment of the mentally disturbed, school safety, and the media.

Otherwise, all we are going to get is another round of partisan gamesmanship by pols and the media and angry division amongst the rest of us. And, the killings will of course continue.

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  NIB
6 years ago

NIB, fake info.

NIB
NIB
Reply to  Levitan
6 years ago

Not a bad plan. But we all know Congress isn’t going to do anything.

dusty
dusty
Reply to  NIB
6 years ago

ISIS was comprised of young men with anger issues. All young men with anger issues can vent in such a venue. They need to be sent to the French Foreign Legion and given their gun of choice. Just the way the NRA wants it to be.

levitan
levitan
Reply to  dusty
6 years ago

Dusty,

Do you have any good ideas?

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
6 years ago

The 2013 National Crime Victimize Survey report there were almost exactly 300,000 crimes, including murders, facilitated with a firearm.

Of those, not more than 5,000 can be shown to have been facilitated with a firearm legally purchased by the offender.

For those seeking more information, there are more than a thousand posts at the Alley covering various aspects of the overwhelming percentage of crimes committed with stolen and trafficked guns.

dusty
dusty
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

Are you saying that those 5000 unfortunates were collateral damage?

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  dusty
6 years ago

He doesnt know what he is saying. all it means is if you want to get a gun, you can get it….doesnt matter what type you ban, the criminals will always get them.

Harrison
Harrison
Reply to  Steven Dean
6 years ago

Let’s legalize alcohol for teens because if teens want alcohol, they will find a way to get it.

levitan
levitan
Reply to  Harrison
6 years ago

Are teenagers legally able to purchase firearms?

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  Harrison
6 years ago

Under Federal law you have to be 21 to buy a handgun and 18 to buy a rifle or a shotgun. But various states have different ages of purchase for rifles or shotguns.

NIB
NIB
Reply to  Steven Dean
6 years ago

These mass shootings, especially at schools were not done by criminals, that is they weren’t criminals until they got ahold of weapons they had no business owning or obtaining in the first place.
Having read many posts on this blog, I can say with supreme confidence that I would not trust most of you with an AR-15.
You can protect your family with a handgun, shotgun, or hunting rifle if need be. You know, that less than 0.001% chance you’d ever have to.

Madame Du Barry
Madame Du Barry
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

I wouldn’t read anything from alleyandnow know who does read that garbage.

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Madame Du Barry
6 years ago

I have no idea, but the majority of crimes are not committed with legally owned guns.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

no kidding so what is your point. Take away the legal guns and the criminals will still have theirs. Fool.

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Steven Dean
6 years ago

The majority of crimes are not committed with legally owned guns.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Steven Dean
6 years ago

no kidding…..everyone knows that. Only criminals will continue to get illegal guns you dolt

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Steven Dean
6 years ago

back to insults?

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Steven Dean
6 years ago

only to weak minded individuals like you

CosbiesLadies
CosbiesLadies
6 years ago

Turocy said that he doesn’t know why the E P A would relax its charge because they haven’t in Connecticut. Councilman Persip said he read in the Eagle how the project-waste water price would go up if we wait? Trufully, I don’t know if we are currently in compliance with the waste plant, drinking water is in compliance, my point is, if Turocy doesn’t know if waste water is near or will be in compliance, then don’t spend any more money. Marxhetti asked a question, do we know what happens to the 8 million we’ve already spent? Are you serious? Loaded (fear) questions from three ignorant questions. The project going forward is similar to giving Covanta 500g or the Beacon T I F’s one way or the other we will be feeding the Consultants-vendors et al when we don’t need to do anything.Fix the Roads!!

Paul
Paul
6 years ago

Here’s a thought, if you eliminate all the gun violence commitment by NON members of the NRA gun violence will drop by…….wait for it………. 100%. Go figure. But the liberals always point the finger at the NRA. DUH

H
H
6 years ago

Well said. Gaetani has mentioned that the Comsultants want a project high because they get a bigger stipend, so that would make sense. And he was correct, the Consultants don’t care about savings and Turocy doesn’t have a clue. Why is this City always looking to take the lowest road with taxpayer money? Marchetti has done some good things, like the Parade work, here he is clearly not doing a very good job as President. Now you know why Gaetani is saying fire everyone e, because they don’t have the expertise to save a buck for us.

dusty
dusty
Reply to  H
6 years ago

Marchetti is not going to save us. He is not even going to try. He is Marchetti. Subtle special interest soldier.

mi
mi
6 years ago

What was the weaponed that was used when the congressman softball game was going on.

levitan
levitan
Reply to  mi
6 years ago

SKS. 7.62×39. The shooter was a ’80’s gen pinko with a soft spot for Soviet era collectibles.

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  levitan
6 years ago

If that pinko had better aim we would have new gun laws.

levitan
levitan
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

New gun laws evidently do little to curb terrorism. They help polarize votes and drive up the national & state budgets, yet what of the thugs and scheming psychopaths? Do they melt away? We haven’t even touched the gang/drug murders. Blackmarkets are very resilient in the face of government prohibitions.

I stand by my earlier post and would like to see appropriate staffing in schools and perhaps public places and rebuild the mental health institutions and observed treatment for the violent flagged individuals.

I hoped that you would have had better taste than to post seditious comments that extoll murder.

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  levitan
6 years ago

No, it isn’t sedition, it is my honest opinion.

Levitan
Levitan
Reply to  levitan
6 years ago

I suspected that you take concealed pleasure in these sorts of murders. Take a leap into some pond. I’ll toss you a bar of soap.

levitan
levitan
Reply to  levitan
6 years ago

SHH

18 U.S. Code § 2385 – Advocating overthrow of Government

“Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or….”

Pound of smoke?

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  levitan
6 years ago

That crime is advocating the overthrow of government. not sedition.

Also, no, I take no pleasure in any violence – I abhor it.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  levitan
6 years ago

yet you threaten others

levitan
levitan
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

Also,

It was an attempted massacre inspired by media glorification of terrorism. The linkage between mass media and mayhem should be on the docket.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

Attention secret service: Potential threat, the poster Shakes His Head.

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Steven Dean
6 years ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Steven Dean
6 years ago

it is no joke

acheshirecat
acheshirecat
Reply to  mi
6 years ago

What was the weapon used to kill 86 people in France in 2016? A 20 ton truck.

Shelly Liver
Shelly Liver
6 years ago

Potholes are worst ever. Springside….Lenox Ave avalanche Onota,Linden,Pecks ………

dusty
dusty
Reply to  Shelly Liver
6 years ago

Oh yes potholes…What is Marchettis stand on potholes these days? Anybody in the corner office have a plan for that? Any reason we cannot use Community Preservation money for the freakin roads mayor?

We might need to start a thread where everyone who has had to pay for car damage due to neglected roads can tell their story. We need to shame this mayor into getting her priorities more on track with the peoples priorities.

Shelly Liver
Shelly Liver
6 years ago

Down the road the interior standards have to be met and we are here but currently our standards are in compliance,HELLO????

Madame Du Barry
Madame Du Barry
6 years ago

I hope and pray that my new assessment valuation on my home will give me the glory and price I’ll need to move the hell out of here.

Madame Du Barry
Madame Du Barry
6 years ago

What was the real reason Mercer School was no longer viable as a school? It has been there a long time since kids stopped learning there?

Madame Du Barry
Madame Du Barry
6 years ago

Shakes has a 24-7 chip on the shoulder. Aside, some of the most ridiculous commentary between Kufflinks is and Percept is continuing on piss t v.

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  Madame Du Barry
6 years ago

How is posting relevant and generally factual information having a chip on my shoulder?

levitan
levitan
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

Oooo – look who’s being defensive on top of it!

Shakes His Head
Shakes His Head
Reply to  levitan
6 years ago

Should I not defend myself?

Levitan
Levitan
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

Just busting your chops. Let’s not blow this out of all proportions.

Steven Dean
Steven Dean
Reply to  Shakes His Head
6 years ago

you are posting fake left wing news as usual

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  Madame Du Barry
6 years ago

It’s not a chip on his shoulder, that’s his head.

h
h
6 years ago

Kufflinks needs to lose about 2 and a half pounds around the belt line straighten out the bow tie, stop forgetting things,and get some new deodorant.

levitan
levitan
Reply to  h
6 years ago

Your device carries scent too? I thought that was a few years down the line.

AlaskanBushClowns
AlaskanBushClowns
6 years ago

Simonelli asked Scamlon why it is not good to use free cash? This question has been asked since the beginning of time, he-doesn’t know the answer by now, he never will. Fix the roads, Pecks is a mess, as is Springside Merrill Onota Lenox Avalanche, Merrill Dalton Linden, East, West, North ……..

Cosbies
Cosbies
6 years ago

Krol said we need to care of our city employees and give them what they want. on the other side he says tough spit to s s recipients that a federal deal? Really?

Gigi
Gigi
6 years ago
Halo
Halo
6 years ago

I think it’s great those you tu ers cut their Guns up, I’d like to see some other guns magnum 357’s lugers and a couple others for now, and bump stocks and larger fireworks and fireworks that can land on homes.

levitan
levitan
Reply to  Halo
6 years ago

Diane Feinstein turned in a cheap Saturday night special to display her willing to sacrifice one for the cause. The police department noted that she retained her pricey 357 magnum.

She doesn’t hunt, is surrounded by viscious armed men, so I suppose she keeps it for counterbalance?

Thomas More
Thomas More
Reply to  levitan
6 years ago

It’s vicious, I suppose

Levitan
Levitan
Reply to  Thomas More
6 years ago

Ok, you schooled me. What do I owe you?

Halo
Halo
6 years ago

One less chip.