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WHAT IS A ‘CITIZEN’? 2020 CENSUS WANTS TO KNOW ‘WHO’

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BY DAN VALENTI

PLANET VALENTI NEWS AND COMMENTARY

(FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE, MONDAY JUNE 24, 2019) — What is a U.S. citizen? Who are they? No, it’s not an Abbott and Costello routine (“What’s on second, Who’s on first”).

It should be clear. You’re a citizen if (a) you’re born in America or one of its possessions or (b) if you’re naturalized after lawfully immigrating.

In taking a nationwide census, which America does every 10 years, we count citizens and those who reside here. Once upon a time, THE PLANET would not have to explain such things, but the radical leftists (radlefs) who have taken control of the Democratic Party want the 2020 census to be different.

For the record, the census has always included a question on citizenship either directly or through sampling. In present form, a sample size of 2.6% includes that question. It’s been that way since 1970. From 1890 to 1960, every census form included a question on citizenship status, necessary because immigration during the earlier phase of that period hit almost 15%. After dipping into the low- to mid-single figures, the number of foreign-born people living in the coutry has risen to 14%. That’s why the Departments of Justice and Commerce want to once again include the question on all forms.

That information will:

  • Provide a more accurate count
  • Factor into determination of congressional representation
  • Help allocate federal funds
  • Protect the rights of minority voters (including non-English speakers) as spelled out in federal Voting Rights Act.

Without the citizen question, census would have to rely on a process called “imputation.” That involves the use of additional federal and state records (and resources) to fill in missing data on people.

In another time, another era, this would not be an issue. Common sense would prevail. This erstwhile no-brainer, however, has turned into yet another political hot-swamp courtesy of the radlefs. The Democrat-controlled House Oversight Committee proved this when it voted to hold the attorney general and head of Commerce in contempt of Congress for restoring the citizen query on the 2020 census form. It’s part of the slash-and-burn tactics of the radlefs, who, though their words say otherwise, act in a way guaranteeing another four years for Donald Trump.

The question, which would be the final one on the form, is simple. It reads:

“Is this person a citizen of the United States?”

(    ) Yes, born in the United States.

(    ) Yes, born in Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands or Northern Marianas.

(    ) Yes, U.S. citizen by naturalization — Print year of naturalization ________.

(    ) No, not a U.S. citizen.”

As you can see, the question WILL count non-citizens who reside in the country, contrary to what the opposition would have you believe. Let Rep. Alexandria Ocascio-Cortez (D-Lipstick) speak for them. At the contempt hearing, she claimed citizenship “is an acknowledgment of power.” It’s a “right” and not a privilege, she said, adding that the Trump Administration put in the question to gather intelligence of where illegals are hiding. She ignores the federal law that prohibits using the census for political purposes, citing FDR’s use of “zip codes” to figure out “where Japanese-Americans were concentrated.”

Yes. She stated that Roosevelt’s roundup of Japanese-Americans replied on “zip codes.”

THE PLANET wants to tell AOC, “Honey, the U.S. Postal Service didn’t introduce zip codes until 1963.”

But we won’t.

Can we just leave it at that?

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Johnny99
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Pat
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Pat

Who could survive on $250.00 per week? Only people already receiving public assistance with food and medical. I think that people should be required to work for any additional financial assistance in their lives.

Shakes
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Shakes

Or people that work for the Federal minimum wage.

Johnny2Shoes
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C,Trzcinka
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C,Trzcinka

The Federal Minimum wage is $7.25 per hour or $290 per 40 hr week. Raising is causing job loss for the low wage workers. I often call it the “Robot Employment Law” because at higher, “more fair” wages, robots become economical.

Shakes
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Shakes

The internet of things is happening regardless of federal minimum wage changes. Rather than minimum wages, we should have guaranteed income benefits.

Jonathan Melle
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Jonathan Melle

What difference does it make? If there are 100 people being counted, 10 are not citizens while 90 are citizens, it is still 100 people! The citizenship question seem redundant and bureaucratic!!!!
– Jonathan Melle

Mad Trapper
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Mad Trapper

The more they count, the more social service money the state/city/town will get.

That is John, you get to pay for more criminal aliens with your tax dollars.

Isin’t that great!!!!

CC The Maze Sun
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CC The Maze Sun

In this data collection digital society, is a census even needed anymore? They know when you wake, when you sleep, when you eat, what you eat, where you shop, what you buy,how many times a day you shit and when you fart. All this seemingly meaningless data is being collected on everyone.

Yet, they can’t figure out how many people are living here? Or is something more nefarious afoot?

You must fill out a sense-US.

doomiedodger
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doomiedodger

Seems like a fair question to me. But what illegal person is going t answer the census at all?

Mr. Fritz
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Mr. Fritz

I believe the Supremes will be ruling on the census question this week. The “radlefs” are obstructionists and are doing nothing to solve the issues that are plaguing our country, like out-of-control illegal immigration.
AOC is an idiot.

Johnny Absurdo
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Johnny Absurdo

I see Hannity gave you guys a new buzz word. Must be so much fun to toss those badass new phrases about. Makes ya feel “special” I bet.

Still wondering
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Still wondering

Stupid is as stupid does.

Johnny Absurdo
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Johnny Absurdo

and admitting it is your first step towards recovery. Keep up the good work. We are pulling for you.

ProxyDate
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ProxyDate

So there’s been some form of citizenship question on either the long form or the ACS since the 70’s. I guess they stopped it in 2010 under Obama (oddly enough).

What’s the big deal here? I’ve gotta say this kind of thing it out of hand. There’s no reason you should be able to ask a citizenship question, there’s no reason you shouldn’t be able to deport illegals.

Heck even Canada did an about (aboot) face after their minor influx of illegal immigrations last winter.

Pat
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Pat

AOC floats around in $3,500 designer dresses and lives a luxurious lifestyle while putting down capitalism. Nothing that she says or does makes any sense. She fits in perfectly with the rest of the far left.

Mad Trapper
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Mad Trapper

The D-rats want all the criminal aliens to vote also.

AOC took an IQ test, it came back negative. : )

Johnny Absurdo
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Johnny Absurdo

Now there is a guy with a super sharp wit!

ProxyDate
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ProxyDate

Off topic:
A friend at the Boring Broadsheet said she was just in a small team meeting and was told to expect layoffs in September if things don’t “ turn around”.
Said it was last in first out percentage layoffs. Maybe that’s why there’s been so much cheerleading.

Mad Trapper
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Mad Trapper

I stopped buying the rag when journalism/Millers left town.

It is so bad my cat wouldn’t use fresh litter lined with it.

That paper is a little left of what Stalin and Mao would approve of. I didn’t think they could get farther left, but they have.

It’s really sad, having learned to read from the same paper. 50 years ago.

Brody Hooper
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Brody Hooper

They fired the person who switched out that letter to the editor Sunday pointing out the hypocrisy in editing anti Trump letters. I believe that person had a new job lined up so that is sweet

Mad Trapper
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Mad Trapper

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/23/expert-matter-time-illegal-alien-voting-expanded/ Elected Democrats will soon attempt to expand voting rights in deep blue states for illegal aliens, an election fraud expert says. Last week, Democrats in New York state approved and signed into law a plan to give driver’s licenses to illegal aliens with the backing of the business lobby. The law allows for the state’s 725,000-strong illegal alien population to be eligible for the same driver’s license that American citizens are afforded. Already, state officials have said the law will effectively give illegal aliens the ability to vote as New York registers citizens to vote at state Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) offices. Government Accountability Institute (GAI) Director of Research Eric Eggers exclusively told Breitbart News that the new law in New York indicates that it is “only a matter of time” before elected Democrats in states like California, New York, Massachusetts, Oregon,… Read more »

Johnny2Shoes
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Johnny2Shoes

Trap,

They have already expanded the right for illegals to vote in local elections such as school boards etc.. in certain states. and this is the build up to them being legally allowed to vote in federal elections. When one illegal vote can change an outcome of an election it is one to many.

The school committee
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The school committee

They changed it without congressional approval to do so. When your wrong your wrong. Congresswoman Cortez is correct. The Trump administration just cant do this without the peoples house giving approval unless you support fasism

Mad Trapper
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Mad Trapper

Cortez don’t even realize the lies that come out of her mouth!

Do lies count when you’re an idiot? Or is that drivel?

She makes a rock look smart.

Johnny Absurdo
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Johnny Absurdo

Maybe you should ask Trump if lies count when your an idiot. He wrote the book on the subject.

X-Lachs Lounge
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X-Lachs Lounge

Moron! Can you even define fascism?

Acute Angina
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Acute Angina

Define it? He can’t even spell it.

Ron Kitterman
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Ron Kitterman

No but I promise to enroll as a Democrat if you ask me nice.

Mad Trapper
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Mad Trapper

We’ll try this again

https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/06/24/insider-blows-whistle-exec-reveals-google-plan-to-prevent-trump-situation-in-2020-on-hidden-cam/

Google planning on fixing 2020 elections.

Said Project Veritas founder James O’Keefe:

“This is the third tech insider who has bravely stepped forward to expose the secrets of Silicon Valley. These new documents, supported by undercover video, raise questions of Google’s neutrality and the role they see themselves fulfilling in the 2020 elections.”

Shakes
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Shakes

Non-citizens cannot vote in Federal elections, period. However, please note, that having a citizenship status does NOT mean a right to suffrage, although it is the current SCOTUS precedent.

The school committee
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The school committee

Trump is a fascist and extremely dangerous based on his lies. Always attack media because it works on the lemmings .Lemmings lead to loss of freedom led by the brainwashed as they support the work of wealth and power which is an old story.Trump as told by Trump to his lemmings has saved you all 2 or 3 times a day.ignorance will win again in 2020 .We are closer to Russia than we are to the constitution.Russian strategy has always been to win from inside the White House with the help of white angry men

X-Lachs Lounge
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X-Lachs Lounge

You really are a moron.

Joe Blow
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Joe Blow

WOW….your T.D.S. is shining bright! President Trump is doing whats best for every American. He put his foot down and will no longer accept business as usual….enough is enough! D.’s want to separate us into tribes based on sex,race and religion. All citizens have the same individual rights from God not Government as enshrined in the Constitution. Together we are strong divided we are weak…….where we go one we go all.

The school committee
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The school committee

1.5 and 1 million over budget in less than 20 months ,2.5 million over for with no way to pay for these fake budgets being handed in by our councilors to justify schools budgets.The city council is a bunch of amateurs. Pittsfield is a failure only because of the CC and mayor. We have no leaders.Our children dont like how Pittsfield is run by incompetents

Mad Trapper
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Mad Trapper

Pssstttt….. TSC they are all Democrats.

Johnny Absurdo
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Johnny Absurdo

They are incompetent for sure. Also too many people go into politics to feather their own nest and not to follow any job description. Why is there an oath of office involved? It is meaningless and also insulting to the taxpayers.

Any applicant for a city job who has political connections has a leg up on the person who has none even if that person has much better qualifications. And that is why you see a city like Pittsfield in such a state of dysfunction.

The school committee
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The school committee

The mayor with Marchetti should OK every dime of salt and sand OT

The school committee
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The school committee

They are getting rich at the highway department

The school committee
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The school committee

They are getting rich at the school dept. keeping 2 high schools open.There are less than 1400 kids in high school at 2 schools

doomiedodger
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doomiedodger

To honor Independence Day this 4th of July the city of Pittsfield should take the parade money and put it towards an audit of the city finances focusing on the school department first. Hot air balloons and fireworks are examples of both waste and pollution and the city has too much of both.

X-Lachs Lounge
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X-Lachs Lounge

Has there ever been a hot air balloon in the Pittsfield parade?

Mr. Fritz
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Mr. Fritz

Hot air balloons, plural – in the form of local politicians!

Jonathan Melle
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Jonathan Melle

Who is the most lovely? Is it the lovely Linda or the lovely Melissa?

Johnny Absurdo
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Johnny Absurdo

Could you please give us your definition of “lovely” Jonathon?

Mr. G
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Mr. G

Speaking of which, where has the water boy gotten off to? I presume Dan’s new algorithms have take care of much of his bombastic buffoonery from his multiple personalities. If he could only keep it together, stay on topic and shun the personal threats.

Kleptocrat
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Kleptocrat

I’d say Pete White is in the running for most lovely.

Drew Z
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Drew Z

The loveliest of them all has arrived on the scene Jon. Her name is Yuki ( Lady Gaga) Cohen,and she’s smart.

Jonathan Melle
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Jonathan Melle

June 24, 2019 Re: Carmen Massimiano The Eagle’s news story about Carmen Massimiano stepping down from Pittsfield’s Licensing Board had all glowing reviews from Mayor Linda Tyer and others. I never understood why Pittsfield politicians always praise and fear him. When I was 22 years old during the Sping and part of the Summer of 1998, then state Senator Andrea F. Nuciforo, Jr. set up secretive plans with the Pittsfield Police Department to have me arrested and jailed by making false accusations that I made “veiled threats” against him over his support of the abolishment of Berkshire County government. The end game was to have then Berkshire County Sheriff Carmen C. Massimiano, Jr. punish me for standing up to Nuciforo. Years later, I returned to Pittsfield sometime in the year 2004 or 2005, when I was near 30 years old, to attend an event… Read more »

Johnny2Shoes
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Johnny2Shoes

Jonathan,

Thank you for your service to our country. I have asked once before when you mentioned your service on here where you served and for how long you were in the service. Maybe you missed the question the last time I asked?

Spagirl
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Spagirl

This is a sad story. Just like the Baran story. Insiders power and coverups!! Disgraceful! I am sorry they took your life from you.

ProxyDate
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ProxyDate

I’m not buying it, my sources say a majority of his money comes from SSI and is not service related. He can be qualified as 100% disabled by the VA but it is just a confirmation of the SSI and not related to military service.
He has the opportunity to present his case, if not, then I will get his DD214 under FOIA.

ProxyDate
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ProxyDate

When and what did you do in the army and what happened that qualified you as 100% disabled veteran.
Are you saying your disability is 100% related to your military service and is captured on a DD214?

dunstin
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dunstin

Manly looking woman.

Pat
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Pat

All weekend we have been suffering through the far left media spreading lies about mistreatment at the border by not allowing toothbrushes for children. The case they are referring to however, was being argued about incidents that occurred during the Obama administration NOT the Trump administration. Just like they conveniently confuse pictures of children in cages during the Obama administration and say the pictures are from the Trump administration. “A viral video of a Justice Department lawyer arguing before a panel of judges last week that kids don’t need toothbrushes and soap to meet the standard for “safe and sanitary” detention under the so-called Flores settlement has caused outrage. But few have stopped to note that the underlying case had to do with a district court finding that the Obama administration in 2015 was in material breach of the Flores standard (or that the… Read more »

Johnny Absurdo
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Johnny Absurdo

Pat, I am saddened to admit it but I have a distant family member who has also been sucked into the same cult mindset that Trump ;and Hannity have caught you up in.

This once kind giving compassionate person has changed so much in the last two years. I could not believe it a couple of weeks ago when while riding with this person he purposely tried to hit a grey squirrel in the road. He was trying to kill an innocent animal. He has no sympathy for Trumps cage kids either.

He, like you, worships Trump and has turned over his soul to him. Our family is heart broken. I often joke but this is serious.

X-Lachs Lounge
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X-Lachs Lounge

JA, be thankful that they’re not in the climate change cult.

Johnny2Shoes
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Johnny2Shoes

You would think these people coming here on a 2000 mile journey would have packed a toothbrush and toothpaste and other such items that wouldn’t take up much room in the backpacks they have.
If these people can’t even afford these items then it tells me they are seeking to gain entrance to our country for economic reasons and not the harmful atrocities they claim instead to get in.

Dundy
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Dundy

So, city councilors have a private blemish for DPW budget and road disrepair, yet they’ll fund the schools to the zenith without any accountability. Sad.

Pat
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Pat

If the far left was really interested in problems at the border they would quickly pass legislation to fix the problem.

“To address the root cause of the crisis, it should also change the bizarre asylum rules that have forced us to release family units from Central America into the country, creating an incentive for more to come.”

There is a crisis at the border and the far left knows it, but prefers to USE the crisis to blame President Trump for the problems and in so doing show that they are really not concerned about the humanitarian crisis at the border. They also want lots of illegal immigrants to enter the country even under these conditions of so many entering the country at one time while at the same time saying they are so concerned about conditions at the border.

Shakes
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Shakes

It is bizarre to offer refugees shelter and protection?

Pat
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Pat

It is bizarre to have this many entering the country at once and to expect the system to not be overwhelmed and to figure out where to send all of these people and you know it.

Johnny2Shoes
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Johnny2Shoes

They want to spend trillions for healthcare for all, student loan debt forgiveness, reparations for gay and lesbian folks, reparations for families of former slaves.Yet 4.5 billion for the crisis at the border is a problem to fund?

Delbert Huose
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Delbert Huose

Not on here Pat,dems have No Say,period…..several people I’ve talked with cannot get on the Planet. This is evident of several of you posting many under pseudonyms, which is ok,if the host doesn’t want interference,it is his blog. Yesterday, it was never let in here that the chairman of the license board should be let go, in today’s eagle it is stating he is resigning.

Ben Lulliman
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Ben Lulliman

Purchases over-budgeted do to contingency? Twenty five g for bike path improvements,try to reduce and gets voted down? This City Council is a joke,vote them all out,that isn’t going to happen, they’ll have replacements anyway that will be worse. We need a City Manager,immediately.

The school committee
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The school committee

Don should never try and make himself look good by using name as this great President gave a wonderful growing economy to Trump who immediately stole 1.7 trillion out of Obama’s economy to hand it off to the filthy powerful wealthy irresponsible 1%

Johnny Absurdo
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Johnny Absurdo

As if to reinforce what seems to be full blown confusion at city hall there is an article in Mondays Eagle talking about the refurbished 1st street parking lot. And so one wonders where the city gets its consultants because this project seems effed up on so many levels. Don’t miss it. Needs a full blown Dan investigation. Don’t wait too long as they are going to want this story to disappear as soon as possible.

Spagirl
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Spagirl

This is a glaring major conundrum!! People have a right to be pissed off. City employees who have free parking should not be allowed to park there. Pay for a permit like everyone else.

Spagirl
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Spagirl

Or park in the Columbus Avenue Parking lot.

Pseu Do
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Pseu Do

Where did Moon get her figure pickle ball is the fastest growing sport in the AmErica. Simply not true.

ProxyDate
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ProxyDate

Moon is a bumbling idiot. It’s been promoted, by their own organization, as the “fastest growing sport you’ve never heard of”. It was a PR bit done in conjunction with NBC news as paid “news”tainment. It was part of their “Better” segment as a puff piece. It is as they say, fake news. This is all marketing because one of the families that invented it and has an interest in the sale of all things Pickleball is a VP at NBC. Pickleball has had a 650 percent increase in numbers over the last six years, according to USA Pickleball Association (USAPA). The biggest subset of that growth is not in the over-60 crowd, says Justin Maloof, executive director of USAPA, but the younger set. “When the sport first caught on in the sunbelt states around 2009, it was at 55-plus centers and RV communities,”… Read more »

Dick Flimsy
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Dick Flimsy

Will the census form have any questions about pickle ball?

shakes
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shakes

https://www.usapa.org/

Pickleball is pretty popular. Both my teenage daughters had it in gym and enjoy playing.

ProxyDate
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ProxyDate

Your kids were forced to play it, like volleyball, badminton, and doge ball. Ask what games they would prefer to play. I’m sure most kids like playing four square.

Shakes
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Shakes

I did ask them, they enjoyed pickleball. FYI, high school gym doesn’t have Foursquare…. this isn’t camp Russell. Also, my kids would never go to a trash system like PPS.

Bobby Knewson
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Bobby Knewson

Dan I heard a couple three City Clowncilors saying the D P W is underfunded and the workers aren’t lazy. Well, who said they were lazy,if the budget wasn’t so bloated at the schools maybe Trochee could hire more people. Personally I think he is at fault, he’s the DPW Commissioner. This guy is leaving town and because of him alternative ways to save tens of millions go with him.

Ted Polipeski
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Ted Polipeski

Krol says the schools have contributed enough to help the insurance co pay? In what Society. Vote all these Councilors out. And don’t vote for Yuki or J Lo,they would be worse. Unless of course, you don’t mind being taxed to death for items you rarely would use.

G E isn’t coming back,but the Arts haven’t arrived either.

The school committee
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The school committee

Pickleball is a Great Barrington activity for old people .Pittsfield is a sports town not a pickleball town….. .The Trump administration illegally changed the census but Trump people are hired to break Americas laws and patriots like Congress woman Cortez will not allow it at the peoples house.We won’t allow fascist to take over America.

X-Lachs Lounge
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X-Lachs Lounge

You still don’t know what you’re talking about but your spelling is better.

Pan Durer
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Pan Durer

The Arts are for the newYorkers, like Joyce, the Restauranteur (how’d that work out) and for some reason former Mayor Ruberto had a psychedelic vision that this would be the end all for the future of Polookaville. Man, was he wrong. Vote this Yuki chick, orc J Lo in,and the balance of power will be worse than it ever was. And it is bad NOW.

The school committee
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The school committee

You still pay attention as you are a lemming and capable of buying a line of bs…get your jammies on as Hannity will be giving another stupid sermon to the lazy.

X-Lachs Lounge
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X-Lachs Lounge

Don’t proliferate nonsense

Pothole
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Pothole

Where are all these pickle ball
Games being played now? Seems to be just fine and growing the way it is. Not for the greater public good. Stop throwing my tax money at it ! A very small percentage of people play. Make the school department put it on their grounds with the tens of millions of dollars they have at their disposal then the kids can play and the seniors after school hours. Why put it off school grounds when it could serve a dual purpose and have some sort of oversight

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