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TRILLION $$ COIN: FOOLISH GIMMICRY or UTTER MADNESS? PLANET DOESN’T SEE A THIRD POSSIBILITY

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BY DAN VALENTI

PLANET VALENTI NEWS AND COMMENTARY

(FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE, WEDNESDAY OCT. 13, 2021) — Democrats looking to weasel around the national debt ceiling are trying to drum up support for the minting of platinum coins “worth” $1 trillion.

You read that right. This isn’t a joke. THE PLANET wishes it was.

The minting of such a coin would exploit a technicality in Treasury’s power to produce coinage “in any denomination.” Those are the words, including “any.”

This looks like an easy (though not elegant) solution, except for one thing: What tangible resources would back up the coin, that collateral thing that has gone the way of Jon Gruden in global economies that run on debt? Where would America get $1 trillion worth of goods or material, of anything for that matter.

The coin would be made of a couple ounces of platinum worth about $2,500 on today’s market. For the math-challenged, that’s slightly less than the trillion dollars the coin would claim on its face. If Treasure mints such a coin, THE PLANET proposes that E Pluribus Unum (“Our of Many, One”) be replaced with  De Unitate, Divisio et Discordias (“Out of Unity, Division and Strife”).

With the prospect of a $1T coin new to most of us and in the spirit of education, let’s examine the pros and cons, forgetting that the “pros” ARE cons (as in con game).

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Perspectives: Gimmicry or Madness? 

Supporters Say:

— The coins could help end dangerous debt ceiling fights for good

“The debt ceiling was never designed to be a weapon of destruction. Legislators should not have the power to threaten global financial calamity in pursuit of increasingly petty partisan aims. With a platinum coin or two on account at the Fed, the debt ceiling could be rendered meaningless indefinitely, eliminating a wholly artificial and unnecessary source of crisis. Silly problems demand silly solutions” — Zachary D. Carter, Washington Post.

— None of the drawbacks of the coins would be worse than default

“If the choice is the Republicans’ sticking to their guns and watching Biden preside over the first default on debt in American history or feeling silly about minting a coin? Just go ahead and mint the thing” — Hayes Brown, MSNBC

— The coins would draw attention to the absurdity of the debt ceiling itself

“It is a work-around. It sort of makes it obvious that the debt limit itself is a pretty stupid idea” — L. Randall Wray, economist, to AFP

— The fate of the U.S. economy is more important than arcane debates about the president’s Constitutional authority

“If the choice is between default and a presidential power grab, a power grab is the only defensible course of action. A responsible leader does not plunge his people into a wholly preventable financial crisis. If backed against a wall, Biden mustn’t flinch. He must kill the debt ceiling once and for all” — Dylan Matthews, Vox

Skeptics of the $1T Coin Say:

— It’s risky to set the precedent that trillion-dollar coins can solve all of America’s problems

“Would relaxing the Treasury’s ‘self imposed’ rule against minting trillion-dollar coins leave us as safe, or safer, from abuse of the money power than we are now? To answer that question, one has to consider possible future consequences of the change. That means asking what might happen if the Treasury could mint not just one or two trillion-dollar coins, but as many such coins as it liked” — George Selgin, Cato Institute

— Minting the coins would be unconstitutional

“Article I gives Congress the purse strings, and the credit card. Were the president to take these powers, he would make himself a king” — Christopher M. Russo, Barrons

This would be a political disaster for Democrats

“I think minting the $1 Trillion coin would actually be unpopular because it’s literally just printing money and people get what that is” — Slate political writer Jordan Weissmann

— The coins could spark their own financial meltdown

“Global investors will know that this isn’t a sustainable way to pay the government’s bills, and given the constitutional crisis it would ignite, it will increase the odds they won’t get paid in a timely way at some point in the future. The trillion dollar coin will not forestall a financial crisis and economic crisis downturn.” — Mark Zandi, chief economist for Moody’s Analytics, to CNN

— A likely legal challenge would sow economic uncertainty

“If Biden were to take any of these actions, it is all but certain that Republicans would at least try to engineer a legal challenge. And so long as there is any uncertainty surrounding the legality of America’s debt payments, some of the negative impacts of breaching the debt ceiling might still be felt. Investors would likely want some premium for accepting the risk that conservative judges would upend America’s finances at any moment” — Eric Levitz, New York

— The coins would do permanent damage to the the value of U.S. currency in the world

“At the end of the day, a fiat currency’s stability doesn’t rest on anything other than people’s belief that money is worth what they’ve believed it to be worth. Doing something like the trillion-dollar coin is a great way to get people to think that [the] dollar is not such a great currency” — Philip Wallach, American Enterprise Institute senior fellow, to CNN

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THE PLANET sides with the skeptics. Such a coin would be fiscal play-acting and would have the detrimental effect of imperiling investments in Treasury notes, current considered the safest investment in the world.

So what say, ye scholars? Good idea or no?

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Simon Ives
Simon Ives
6 days ago

I vote for more platinum blonds

Jonathan A. Melle
Jonathan A. Melle
6 days ago

Was it Constitutional when the Swamp bailed out Wall Street banks as well as foreign banks with trillions of U.S. dollars during the 2008 financial crisis?
Was it Constitutional when the Bush 2 administration invaded Iraq in 2003 for its second largest oil reserves in the World next to Saudi Arabia?
Is it Constitutional that the Military Industrial Complex spies on American Citizens when the Constitution forbids it?
Was it Constitutional for the Military Industrial Complex to torture foreign enemies by having them waterboarded or having trained dogs bite at their genitals?
Is is Constitutional for the Military Industrial Complex to have killed millions upon millions of foreign Peoples since the end of World War 2 through 2021?
Is it Constitutional for the President to declare de facto wars ever since World War 2 ended?
Is it Constitutional for the U.S. Supreme Court to made laws out of case laws?
Was it Constitutional when the U.S. Government and the state governments practiced racist immigration laws that targeted Jews and Italians from entering the U.S.A., the South’s racist Jim Crow laws, and the state governments’ racist eugenics laws that inspired Hitler in the 1920s?
The Constitution is just a piece of paper that the American Government uses to do whatever the hell it wants!
The allegory of the Grasshopper and the Ant illustrates how power works. During the Spring, Summer and Fall, the Grasshopper always played while the Ant always worked hard and prepared by storing food for the cold Winter months. The Ant would tell the Grasshopper to work and store food like he did for the cold Winter months. The Grasshopper would tell the Ant that he wanted to enjoy the nice weather and play. When winter came around, the Ant told the hungry Grasshopper that he should have worked and prepared for the cold weather like the he did. The hungry Grasshopper looked at the well nourished Ant and then ate the Ant.
It doesn’t make sense to the working class and underclass of America that they are the proverbial Ant, while the ruling and other rich and powerful elites are the proverbial Grasshopper. When Wall Street needs money, the ruling elites bail them out with our hard earned tax dollars. Iraq is rich in oil, so the Swamp took over their oil reserves. It is all a shell game, and I wish everyone would understand that we are really being manipulated. Lastly, I love my Country, but I fear my Government, despite the Constitution.

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  Jonathan A. Melle
6 days ago

I agree with much of this rant but I have to correct you on Jim Crow laws. Northern states had them as well.

Jonathan A. Melle
Jonathan A. Melle
Reply to  12 Gauge
5 days ago

Hello Patrick Fennell,

I honor and thank you and all of my fellow Veterans for the Honorable service in the United States Armed Forces and related federal agencies who sacrificed their time and/or lives in defense of our country and the Constitution.

My point is that the Constitution is used similar to The Bible in that the Government uses it to justify its actions that have led to many nightmares such as the millions upon millions of foreign Peoples who have been killed by the Military Industrial Complex since the end of World War 2. How in Hell did the Founding Fathers’ documents justify Wall Street and foreign banks receiving trillions of dollars in bailouts in 2008, the Military Industrial Complex of endless wars and arms sales being the number one non-farm export to the world?

Religious texts, such as The Bible, and Government texts, such as the Constitution, are the most cited documents by politicians, but they are also the least understood texts. Try reading The Bible and the Constitution. It is not easy reading, even for the most educated scholars.

My friend is very intelligence about Financial Issues, and I asked him if the U.S. Government will ever pay for the $30 trillion and counting higher U.S. National Debt. My financially astute friend told me two things: (a) the U.S. National Debt will never be paid off, and (b) the Swamp can only run up huge federal budget deficits for so long until it won’t work anymore for the economy. My financially educated friend told me that when the government gives people “free” money, that it will all eventually trickle down back to the people who will have to pay for it in the future.

I told my financially astute friend that while he is right about it all, I believe that the people, including myself as well as him and his family, should take everything the government gives us all because someone else will take it instead of us. I also told my brother that it was unfair when the Swamp bailed out foreign banks in 2008 with hundreds of billions of U.S. dollars, while he and his family are struggling to stay financially afloat while paying local, state and federal taxes. God forbid that the people receive government benefits, while Wall Street and the ruling elites are all worth 7-figures or more with the financial system rigged in their favor only.

In closing, I wish the Constitution was more than a piece of paper, but I also wish that other Fairy Tales were real.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Melle

J2S
J2S
Reply to  Jonathan A. Melle
5 days ago

George Washington stated the government is like fire, a useful servant but a dangerous master.

Fizzlehead
Fizzlehead
6 days ago

Mayor (is that what she is?) Tyer found herself a 40 million dollar coin. But senior citizens on fixed incomes will still be back funding lost revenue from her tax cuts to millionaire friends business ventures. Her philosophy is to take from those with the least and give it to those with the most. How pathetic is that?

J2S
J2S
Reply to  Fizzlehead
6 days ago

These clowns that think any crime is ok should ask the people who are losing employment and ask those whose needs are not being met with store closings that are no longer able to provide for them.

More CA Walgreens close due to “organized retail crime”

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2021/10/13/more-ca-walgreens-close-due-to-organized-
retail-crime-n422056

Markus Aurelius
Markus Aurelius
Reply to  Fizzlehead
6 days ago

Ask Wrong Way and she’ll tell you shoplifting is a victimless crime. Well, she won’t tell you that. She’ll parrot whatever Road Rage Rollins says about issues.

Does Wrong Way have a thought for herself? Or does she just search “progressive headlines,” and jump on the bandwagon?

As I stated in a post weeks ago, these “progressive” fools are only hurting the people they claim to advocate for. You know, people of color. The retailer will not only pass the cost on to the consumer, but much like in CA retail stores, they’ll quit stocking high theft items.

Helen, if you’re reading this, it’s not YT people looting the stores either, despite your constant “victimization” by YT people.

Shirleyknuts
Shirleyknuts
6 days ago

Seems the solution is much easier than the medicine the government is trying to force down our throats. Just stop spending and pay down the debt. Stop adding unfounded programs and live within the means. Not that difficult just have to elect adults instead of power hungry straw people.

Shirleyknuts
Shirleyknuts
6 days ago

If Pelosi and the Gang want money just open up the economy. Tell people we are at herd immunity and go out and live your life. Be aware that individuals are responsible for their health so take care of yourself. It has been proven by science if you eat healthy, exercise and take your vitamins you will survive this Fauci/Wuhan Flu. Once the economy gets going the taxes will roll into the government coffers. BTW gotta love the increase in gas prices…thank you Pelosi, The gang and illegitimate.

Markus Aurelius
Markus Aurelius
Reply to  Shirleyknuts
6 days ago

That would make it harder to steal the election at midterms next year.

I’m sure another “pandemic” is brewing. Xiden is only a babbling shell of himself. Barry has realized Harris is a disaster; otherwise, she’s be out front and center by now. Barry and the democRATS plan failed with her and now they realize they are in serious trouble.

TSC, as been asked of you by me and others, without mentioning Trump, what has Biden done to help unify this country, as his ads claimed he would?

Pat
Pat
6 days ago

It has to be obvious by now that everything that is happening in this country is intentional. The Biden administration is doing a take-down of this country on so many levels. The Trillion dollar coin would be a disaster, but not just for the Democrats, but for the country. They want to destroy the dollar to prepare the way for a global currency. The Democrats hope they will ride out the destruction especially if they mess with the voting system.

Chesty Puller
Chesty Puller
Reply to  Pat
6 days ago

Maybe the Dingo ate ya Baby Rube

The school committee
The school committee
Reply to  Pat
6 days ago

Fake News Pat…that is not going to happen.

J2S
J2S
Reply to  Pat
6 days ago

The very people that are pushing the government controlling ever aspect of their lives are the ones who will scream loudest once the government gains complete control. If that happens the free ride as a favored useful idiot to gain control will be over. It is all fun and games until reality sets in, and the left wing progressives turn on
them.

Pat
Pat
6 days ago

We have ships in California loaded with supplies that are stretching out some 25 miles with goods rotting. The Biden administration supposedly doesn’t have a clue of how to fix the problem. I’ve heard so many saying to bring in the military to help unload these ships and feed the country, but that would be too obvious of a solution and Biden, Pelosi, and Chuck want the chaos of Americans fighting for fewer and fewer supplies in the stores. It feeds their agenda of bringing our country to rock bottom so they can say they have to build us up from scratch with their globalist Marxist system.

The school committee
The school committee
Reply to  Pat
6 days ago

Pure market Capitalism.The demand is so large that businesses were caught off gaurd in supplying that demand.Supply chain is not working….stop saying this is Marxism. It’s pure Capitalism

Dementia Joe
Dementia Joe
Reply to  The school committee
6 days ago

Biden’s stupidity disrupted the supply chain.

The school committee
The school committee
Reply to  Dementia Joe
5 days ago

Biden has zero to do with it.The non masking anti vaccination anti democracy red state welfare state governments prolonged this pandemic because the believe in Trump fascism. Say goodbye to your rights and fascist can’t have you running around with your guns

Shirleyknuts
Shirleyknuts
Reply to  The school committee
4 days ago

Ha ha hee hee Ho Ho another post from our delusional brainwashed bizarro resident, thanks for the laugh

Hung Wang
Hung Wang
Reply to  Pat
6 days ago

They told Biden he was responsible for supplies. So he hid under his desk until the cabinet came in. When they all were seated he jumped up and yelled supplies.

Merry & Bright
Merry & Bright
Reply to  Hung Wang
5 days ago

Problem is Biden has NOT had a Cabinet meeting since July. Wouldn’t you think they would be meeting on at least a monthly basis. Should be meeting on a weekly basis.

Mr. Fritz
Mr. Fritz
Reply to  Merry & Bright
5 days ago

If you think Dementia Joe is running the country, you are sorely mistaken. Obama and company are in charge, Obama’s third term.

Buttigieg running transportation? What a joke! Supply chain disasters!
Mayorkas running Homeland Security? He’s doing nothing at the border!
Blinken secretary of state? Afghanistan debacle!
Garland AG? He’s labeled soccer moms as domestic terrorists!

The cabinet is full of incompetent fools! God help us all!

Pat
Pat
6 days ago

Pelosi was also berating the media yesterday for not selling her trillion dollar bills to the American public. She barked out that they should do their job because why should she have to tell the American people what’s in the bill. She barks out one thing that’s in it, childcare of course, and then says “lots of other things” and leaves it at that. She is such a phony and proves with her words how she knows the media is working for her and the far left.

The school committee
The school committee
6 days ago

Dan,you do know the approval of a debt ceiling is to simply balance the books and pay the Trump budget of last year.The real story of the debt ceiling is to default on paying people like General Dynamics,Lockheed Martin Raytheon.Trumps Republicans are gambling with our way of life.Trumper fascist want to destroy the democratic Presidency of Joe Biden early as possible because the American people will love this 250 billion dollar infastructure bill…Our economy will fly if it passes.Trumpers have orders to destroy it now.Google the yearly process of voting on our national debt.Its a tool republicans use to destroy democratic programs the middle class will love…..Trumpers had the ability to think before they listened to Rush Limbaugh….He almost had me too but somehow when I stopped listening to his negative view of America life changed to a more optimistic view of America….Now Trumpers are owned by the billionaire Trump…..The wealthy powerful people know what their doing.They make people think you and them have much in common like saving America from the people.

Dementia Joe
Dementia Joe
Reply to  The school committee
6 days ago

Biden doesn’t need any help destroying his presidency. He’s doing a fine job on his own.

The school committee
The school committee
Reply to  Dementia Joe
5 days ago

Joe will pass this bill and we nd the pandemic after ending a war

Shirleyknuts
Shirleyknuts
Reply to  The school committee
4 days ago

Where are the Americans that were left behind

Gobsig
Gobsig
Reply to  The school committee
4 days ago

Please take your Thorazine

We The People Are Confused
We The People Are Confused
6 days ago
J2S
J2S
Reply to  We The People Are Confused
5 days ago

In the unfulfilled article the DA stood by her claim that Hand Gun Helen lied to the media about her firing and wouldn’t let that fly. Other than the DA’s claim that she is a REFORMER, which I think she meant PERFORMER it was left winger blah, blah.

Markus Aurelius
Markus Aurelius
Reply to  J2S
5 days ago

If I were forced to choose who I trusted more, Handgun Helen or Wrong Way? I would have to choose Wrong Way, 8 days of the week.

Wrong Way believes she is the white version of Road Rage Rollins. as scary as that might sound. Handgun Helen posted on social media about being forced out of a car at gunpoint, by (of course) white, Boston Policemen, for simply being Asian in the vehicle.

In Helen’s unexplained hatred towards the police and being about as smart as a tennis ball, she failed to realize that when the police arrest a person, a report number or incident number is generated. These just don’t “disappear.” Even if you’re found not guilty at trial, the arrest is still there. It would show a “not guilty,” as the disposition for the case though.

When people began replying to her and asking her for the case number, Handgun took down the post. To me, a liar, is a liar, is a liar. I trust Helen, a proven liar, about as much as I’d trust an addict leaving one of Wrong Way’s dope shooting galleries, to return my lost wallet with all money and credit cards still there.

Last edited 5 days ago by Markus Aurelius
Markus Aurelius
Markus Aurelius
Reply to  danvalenti
5 days ago

Yes, I believe she did.

I believe the only place she hasn’t mentioned, to quote the late-great, Rodney Dangerfield, “How bout Fantasyland?” When Rodney showed up the economics prof in the movie “Back to School.”

Gobsig
Gobsig
Reply to  danvalenti
4 days ago

Could have been either place. She took a wrong turn in Albuquerque

J2S
J2S
Reply to  Markus Aurelius
4 days ago

I still believe that Handgun Helen will try to do as much damage as possible, to stick it to the DA in the up coming DA’s election. Harrington is going to run become she doesn’t want to give up making the money that she won’t command else where. Helen is never going to come clean on her supposed episode with law enforcement. Maybe Harrington has some information on that episode and use it to shut her up.

Gobsig
Gobsig
Reply to  J2S
4 days ago

Between the two of them they only have half a brain

The Colored Person
The Colored Person
6 days ago

The Disability Law Center
United Way
Taconic Foundation
WIC
CHP

Just try to seek redress there’s a common denom

JoeKapanski
JoeKapanski
Reply to  danvalenti
6 days ago

Come on Dan. Just a poor kid with an undeveloped brain. Harrington will see he gets a nice little wrist slap.

Fizzlehead
Fizzlehead
Reply to  danvalenti
5 days ago

My only problem is that he will probably be back out robbing someone else tonight. Does anyone else besides the DA think he is even a smidgen remorseful?? If ya do, ya dumb!

Markus Aurelius
Markus Aurelius
Reply to  danvalenti
6 days ago

Pittsfield is truly “vibrant, dynamic, and inclusive.”

One of the few who choose to work in this city is robbed doing his job. Outstanding!!

I’ll lay odds down if the armed robber is a “person of color,” this story will evaporate like the felony crimes committed by the black female at Simon’s Rock did. Wrong Way will see to that.

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J2S
J2S
Reply to  Markus Aurelius
6 days ago

Ah, but if it does get local media coverage the robber was on the verge to turning his life around … elementary/ middle school pictures showing a little saintly looking person coming soon…. Quality of life crime….. Brain function not quite….. Profiling….. Racist…. Robber was hungry and wanted food as the $ just fell out of delivery persons pocket… Robber hasn’t reached the number of crimes committed to be prosecuted yet…. .inequality,…. reparations……. and so on.

Day Jahvoo
Day Jahvoo
Reply to  danvalenti
5 days ago

Make him work for Liberty on e month.

Day Jahvoo
Day Jahvoo
Reply to  J2S
5 days ago

He could be mayor someday. I say give him another chance and a coupon for a free pizza. Come on,you don’t prosecute the two greylock stooges,for pie act and embezzlement in the millions Although the pistol whip thing wasn’t cool.

laughingstock
laughingstock
Reply to  danvalenti
6 days ago

Wait until they start robbing the marijuana delivery person who will be carrying 50x the cash and valuable product. And people are shocked? All you have to do is use the app to request the delivery then rob the guy. Imagine our legislators not having the mental capacity to think through something like this beforehand.
https://wgme.com/news/local/maine-marijuana-industry-shocked-by-armed-robbery

laughingstock
laughingstock
Reply to  laughingstock
6 days ago
laughingstock
laughingstock
Reply to  laughingstock
6 days ago

We have no way to prosecute high drivers but bring on the deliveries and cafes because it stimulates the economy.

Fizzlehead
Fizzlehead
Reply to  laughingstock
6 days ago

Full disclosure: I am not totally against vigilante justice

Gobsig
Gobsig
Reply to  danvalenti
6 days ago

They should have waited until 3am to order. Barry says it safe then.

Inside Her
Inside Her
5 days ago

Wrong Way Nipples Andrea Harrington was complaining that she deserves a raise!

Knewkidd Intown
Knewkidd Intown
Reply to  Inside Her
5 days ago

Rumor has it newborn Covid cases in the schools here? Anyone know where?

laughingstock
laughingstock
Reply to  Inside Her
5 days ago

Complaining where, at the hairdresser?

LegalEagle
LegalEagle
Reply to  Inside Her
5 days ago

Harrington can’t even speak in full sentences. I don’t know who told her law was a good choice for her. She can’t speak properly or intelligently about anything. Public office is also a poor choice given how defensive she is about every criticism. Nothing is her fault, she has always been wronged. Wronged Way Harrington.
https://www.wamc.org/news/2021-10-12/almost-three-years-into-office-harrington-discusses-goals-unfulfilled-campaign-promises-and-shares-internal-data

No news
No news
Reply to  LegalEagle
5 days ago

Andrea Harrington is one remarkably incapable speaker. My 8 year old is better.

The Backlog
The Backlog
Reply to  No news
5 days ago

Try to watch when pct stooge has he on. Talk about a ridiculous conversation.

LegalEagle
LegalEagle
5 days ago

Prediction: We are going to look back years from now and say, thank God we had Adam Hinds to fight for the voting rights of people in jail. Thank God that guy with 5 DUIs who killed the young woman can vote. Thanks, Adam. You sure showed us one person really can make a difference.

laughingstock
laughingstock
Reply to  LegalEagle
5 days ago

LT. Gov has very little to do which makes it the perfect job for Hinds.

J2S
J2S
Reply to  laughingstock
5 days ago

Little to do other than take a decent salary funded by the taxpayers. These politicians wouldn’t and couldn’t make it in the real working world.

Markus Aurelius
Markus Aurelius
Reply to  J2S
4 days ago

You are correct. Didn’t Adam leave his UN job under suspicious reasons? Or am I thinking of somebody else?

Gobsig
Gobsig
Reply to  Markus Aurelius
4 days ago

He was a coffee boy in the Mideast

BagDad BagBoy
BagDad BagBoy
Reply to  Markus Aurelius
4 days ago

Adam has certain predilections and an affinity for certain things. He satiated those desires while working for the UN in Iraq.
He was the Angelo C. Stracuzzi of Baghdad. He was a UNAMI daddy.

Gobsig
Gobsig
Reply to  laughingstock
5 days ago

He and Ben can polish each other’s head

J2S
J2S
Reply to  LegalEagle
5 days ago

The more the left ; the quicker & higher they ascend within the slimey ranks.

The Backlog
The Backlog
Reply to  J2S
5 days ago

Workers quitting thier jobs in record numbers.

The Backlog
The Backlog
Reply to  J2S
5 days ago

And that’s why aliens are wanted here. They’ll vote and work,oh, and pay taxes. The perfect and happy subclass.

Bleak House
Bleak House
Reply to  The Backlog
5 days ago

Nonsense. Only citizens can vote in federal elections. You are being lied to. Get educated and stop posting misinformation.

Hated Taxpayer
Hated Taxpayer
Reply to  Bleak House
5 days ago

You are not accurate as usual. Liberal states are trying their best with fraud. Get a clue

Agent 86
Agent 86
Reply to  Bleak House
5 days ago

When ballots are mailed to every registered voter who may be dead or moved there is no control who might end up with that ballot. Those ballots are often stolen from mailboxes. No one knows who the hell fills them out

Tex Krittre
Tex Krittre
Reply to  Bleak House
5 days ago

Well b l is correct they will eventually vote and become citizens .

Gobsig
Gobsig
Reply to  LegalEagle
5 days ago

Are you referring to Ted Kennedy?

Kermit Frog
Kermit Frog
Reply to  LegalEagle
4 days ago

Haha. It’s like the rats leaving a sinking ship. Hinds oversaw the worst things that happened to Berkshire Co for 30 years (museum sale, river cleanup 2, Beacon, nursing home slaughter at veterans & homeless invasion) Of course somehow he thinks he deserves a promotion. That guy is a bad joke.

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Shirleyknuts
Shirleyknuts
5 days ago

Just started to wonder about the voting rolls and audits especially after all the corruption that was and still is being uncovered. Wondering if states cross check to see if people are voting in more than their home state. I remember NH caught some Massachusetts residents trying to vote illegally, with mail in voting people could be registered everywhere to vote.

Bleak House
Bleak House
Reply to  Shirleyknuts
5 days ago

Widespread voter fraud is a myth that the gullible Trump cult keeps falling for like the lemmings that they are.

Hated Taxpayer
Hated Taxpayer
Reply to  Bleak House
5 days ago

You are not accurate as usual. It is not a myth but proven fact

Bleak House
Bleak House
Reply to  Hated Taxpayer
5 days ago

You think gullible isn’t in the dictionary. You believe any lie the Trump zealots feed you.

Voter fraud is garbage.

Hated Taxpayer
Hated Taxpayer
Reply to  Bleak House
4 days ago

Your continued inability to report facts is tiresome. Yawn

Shirleyknuts
Shirleyknuts
Reply to  Bleak House
4 days ago

Read the news from different states, illegal voting has been proven in multiple states. I am sure if Massachusetts would look they would find some. Always wondered how a certain Pittsfield person could guarantee 1,000+ votes every election

Agent 86
Agent 86
Reply to  Bleak House
5 days ago

You really are a low information poster

Absolut Truth
Absolut Truth
Reply to  Bleak House
5 days ago

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Bleak House
Bleak House
Reply to  Absolut Truth
2 days ago

It’s not a great idea to attach your phone number to a post.

Hated Taxpayer
Hated Taxpayer
Reply to  Bleak House
2 days ago

Watch out Absolut this loser will now fox the hell out of you he is known for it. Thank goodness we all know who he is so hopefully he won’t

ABSOLUT Truth
ABSOLUT Truth
Reply to  Hated Taxpayer
1 day ago

Fear and Trembling In Pittsfield. Oh joy!

ABSOLUT Truth
ABSOLUT Truth
Reply to  Bleak House
1 day ago

Then I expect a call from you.

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Markus Aurelius
Markus Aurelius
Reply to  Bleak House
4 days ago

Is it the same myth that: because one feels their employer owes them more money, they decide to take matters into their own hands (no pun) and steal from them to make up the difference?

Kinda like that myth, Bleak? Both involve theft.

Hated Taxpayer
Hated Taxpayer
Reply to  Markus Aurelius
4 days ago

You nailed that right on the head.

Bleak House
Bleak House
Reply to  Markus Aurelius
4 days ago

No. Anyone who thinks widespread voter fraud is an actual thing is a moron. Period.

You’re just like the other guy who thinks I’m Matt McDonough,

Your posts are laughable and completely inaccurate.

ABSOLUT Truth
ABSOLUT Truth
Reply to  Bleak House
4 days ago

How about the Mexican election of 1988? Should the grad student who studied the ballots post-hoc be banned, too?

The Fingerprints of Fraud: Evidence from Mexico’s 1988 Presidential Election | American Political Science Review | Cambridge Core

Hated Taxpayer
Hated Taxpayer
Reply to  Bleak House
4 days ago

As always your post is completely false. Everything I have claimed and Markus has claimed about you is completely true and proved

Bleak House
Bleak House
Reply to  Hated Taxpayer
4 days ago

No. Biden beat Trump. Trump’s Presidency was an abject disaster.

As for this McDonough nonsense, why do you care about some lawyer who stole and threw his life away? It’s pathetic.

Hated Taxpayer
Hated Taxpayer
Reply to  Bleak House
4 days ago

As usual everything in your post above is not accurate. I do not care about you at all

Hated Taxpayer
Hated Taxpayer
Reply to  Bleak House
1 day ago

I don’t think. I know 100 percent

Fizzlehead
Fizzlehead
Reply to  Shirleyknuts
5 days ago

I voted in all the New England states. All the ones within easy driving distance. Some states I voted twice by wearing a mask and speaking with an accent to throw them off. I also voted by mail in Florida and Utah and Utah does not even allow it. I also figured out how to change votes within a machine by staring at it and imagining my candidate winning. And it is not fraudulent if you mean well and have good intentions.

Shirleyknuts
Shirleyknuts
Reply to  Fizzlehead
5 days ago

Fuzzy Fizzle has a nerve been hit? As I read your response it seems like you just admitted to a crime, maybe our moderator should become a whistleblower..who knows Congress may call him to testify about the illegal voting that you just admitted to

Fizzlehead
Fizzlehead
Reply to  Shirleyknuts
5 days ago

UH, uh no. It wasn’t me. It was someone dressed like me. I am not even old enough to vote and besides I had to do my hair that day. Please don’t show that to Tucker Carlsap or he will want me on his show and my suit is at the cleaners.

I have never asked you for anything before Shirely so please don’t let this leak out OK? Thanks ahead of time. I owe ya one.

Chesty Puller
Chesty Puller
Reply to  Shirleyknuts
5 days ago

Perhaps you should contact tRump and you could help him prove all the voting fraud Rube

J2S
J2S
Reply to  Shirleyknuts
5 days ago

Notice the term used on voter fraud? “Widespread.” Any fraud in any local, state or federal election isn’t a good thing. Some of these elections are decided by a few votes, so any fraud will play a part in the outcome.

https://100percentfedup.com/breaking-mi-nursing-home-employee-caregiver-of-legally-incapacitated-persons-charged-with-submitting-26-absentee-ballot-applications-forging-residents-signatures-in-2020-election-mi-sos-char/

Bleak House
Bleak House
5 days ago

This coin silliness arises whenever there’s this phony drama over the debt ceiling. Both parties play games with it. The deficit went up $7.8 trillion under Trump and McConnell voted to raise the debt ceiling three times during Trump’s presidency.

To claim that the Democrats are trying to “weasel around” the debt ceiling is belied by the fact that no serious people take this coin proposal seriously.

It is a joke. That’s why it never happens.

Hated Taxpayer
Hated Taxpayer
Reply to  Bleak House
5 days ago

Again and as always you are not accurate. You should find actual sources other then fake cnn

Bleak House
Bleak House
Reply to  Hated Taxpayer
5 days ago

Prove that my numbers and statements are wrong. Link to sources that refute them.

We all know you won’t because you can’t.

Hated Taxpayer
Hated Taxpayer
Reply to  Bleak House
4 days ago

Stop acting entitled. It’s old and you were told by officers of the court not to
You continued inaccuracies are tiresome
You are entitled to nothing.

Bleak House
Bleak House
Reply to  Hated Taxpayer
4 days ago

And your failure is complete. You know nothing about anything.

Your one sentence posts are pathetic.

Hated Taxpayer
Hated Taxpayer
Reply to  Bleak House
4 days ago

I know everything about you. Everything. The way you messed up your life is sad

Bleak House
Bleak House
Reply to  Hated Taxpayer
4 days ago

You have no idea who I am. You still
Live in a backwater like North Adams or Pittsfield because you cannot afford to move away.

Your life is a joke.

Hated Taxpayer
Hated Taxpayer
Reply to  Bleak House
4 days ago

I know 100 percent everything about you and have proven it time and time again. You lose

ABSOLUT Truth
ABSOLUT Truth
Reply to  Bleak House
4 days ago

The coin silliness, rightly called by you, – it is more sick than silly – is caused by evidence that there is no current plan to fund the 4 trillion dollar bill. That means, there is no future generation of wealth to expected in borrowing the cash.

The IRS is being given the power to scrounge every cash deposit ($600) to squeeze the funds to cover this bill. Such wringing is not the promised shakedown of multi-billionaires nor even petty millionaires such as Sen. Warren and the rest of the Congress Critters combined. The recipients of this unique treatment shall be the health care provider – last year’s hero! – accepting cash for private work (they too are trying to stay afloat), handymen, mechanics, bartenders, and more. These are the people attempting to find solid ground – what we used to call the middle class. In fact, everybody is targeted except the well to do $100,000+ year professional living solvent on paychecks alone.

This new power of the IRS will be the strongest evidence that there is no future promised by the 3-4 trillion request.

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ABSOLUT Truth
ABSOLUT Truth
Reply to  danvalenti
4 days ago

Bleak House asked for an argument; doesn’t like one liners. I agree. I’m waiting for his rejoinder.

Bleak House
Bleak House
Reply to  ABSOLUT Truth
2 days ago

My rejoinder is this: your post, not surprisingly, is inaccurate. That happens when scarf down morsels from the table of Alex Jones.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/09/29/fact-check-post-treasury-tax-proposal-partly-false/8411799002/

Most reasonable people are done with posters who swallow bile from Infowars, The Daily Wire, Zerohedge, The Gateway Pundit, or someone’s idiot friends on Facebook.

ABSOLUT Truth
ABSOLUT Truth
Reply to  Bleak House
1 day ago

[repeat]

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ABSOLUT Truth
ABSOLUT Truth
Reply to  Bleak House
1 day ago

I see where you want to go. Here’s how your text reads if I simply delete the insults and caricature and retain content.

“My rejoinder is this: your post is inaccurate….That happens when…from Alex Jones….[URL]….people are done with…who…from Infowars…The Daily Wire, Zerohedge, The Gateway Pundit…friends on Facebook.”

I agree – I also don’t read content from info sites that have those sorts of names; they turn me off. But, I am probably over-responsive to the current marketing trends. There are likely good reasons people publish there.

— Yours! —

Hated Taxpayer
Hated Taxpayer
Reply to  Bleak House
1 day ago

Typical insults. Try harder

Pat
Pat
5 days ago

Liz Warren putting down the trips into space by Jeff Bezos as a bunch of billionaires with too much money. She doesn’t put down Nance Pelosi clocking in at nearly half a billion dollars in assets as someone who is ever wasting money. Liz is very particular about the wealthy people she needs to demonize as examples of waste.

Most Americans saw William Shatner’s trip into space as awesome and some great relief from the depressing antics of the Biden administration, but Debbie Downer Liz Warren couldn’t even let us enjoy that. She had to keep up the far left agenda of all wealthy people are bad except for herself and her far left comrades.

Annulgas
Annulgas
Reply to  Pat
5 days ago

That whole news clip was fake to promote Bezos space travel business. William Shatner is in a nursing home in Montana hooked up to about seven IVs. But it was well done and pretty funny. yah, sure a ninety year old geriatric patient going into space. I don’t think so.

Tex Krittre
Tex Krittre
Reply to  Annulgas
5 days ago

Shatner should get an award for the biggest belly at ninety, and alive.And for krist sakes it isn’t like he hadn’t been in space before? And it’s Mr. Spock,not Dr. Spock.

Bones,prescribe me another scotch.

Annulgas
Annulgas
Reply to  Tex Krittre
4 days ago

Something tells me that there are a few space shots posting regularly on this board. Straight from the planet Ork.

Pat
Pat
Reply to  Annulgas
4 days ago

William Shatner walked up 5 steep flights of stairs to get to the spaceship. Everyone was amazed at his stamina for such an old person. He rides horses everyday and a bicycle. He is definitely not in a nursing home that’s for sure. His comments after the trip were so profound. Comparing the blue of the earth to life and the blackness of space to death and how the blue was such a thin line or so it seemed to him.

Pat
Pat
Reply to  Annulgas
4 days ago

It was so amazing. Shatner is in great shape and walked up 5 very steep flights of stairs. Show me a 90 year old that can do that without having serious issues. Yes, he really did go into space, not deep space, but space.

Dementia Joe
Dementia Joe
Reply to  Annulgas
4 days ago

He’s in the bed next to Biden

The school committee
The school committee
5 days ago

Americans want taxpayer supported healthcare just like all the city,state and goverment employees have.Walmart employees pay for that national taxpayer subsidized health Ins.Raise your hand if you have it.

Hell Toupee
Hell Toupee
Reply to  The school committee
5 days ago

Raise you hand if you think TSC is nit wit of the year.

Tex Krittre
Tex Krittre
Reply to  Hell Toupee
5 days ago

I’m the nit wit and proud to be it.

LegalEagle
LegalEagle
5 days ago

Meanwhile in the Land of Lawless…
There are racial injustices in the justice system in Massachusetts but DA Harrington can’t or won’t provide any evidence of said claim in Berkshire County. Turns out this would require real analysis and she didn’t know she needed that. Harrington can’t answer the question, “Who is committing more crimes” nor does she want to because the rates are strictly proporational to socio econonimc status and she didn’t know that.
Harrington has no comment on former employees Kempthorne’s claims of attempting to withold public records and no comment on Kempthorn and Moon’s claims of engaging in politicking. Nada. 
Should we take silence as agreement?
And regarding her claims of assistants being mistreated by a judge…Now for some unknown reasons, Harrington is the one that was wronged. It’s funny how, like most psychos, Harrington seems to be the only one who thinks this. 
Overall, it’s pretty pathetic the DA feels the need to use the local media to explain all of what has gone wrong during her almost 3 years in office. Unfortunately, WAMC couldn’t afford to give her 3 or 4 hours. 

Markus Aurelius
Markus Aurelius
Reply to  LegalEagle
4 days ago

Great points. I’m wondering when the Berkshire County police chiefs, Sheriff Bowler, and MSP, will step in and say something about this. “Racial injustice,” in policing in Berkshire County. Wrong Way stated this and it’s time call her out on her BS.

The majority of people committing the dangerous felony crimes in Pittsfield are “people of color.” Wrong Way can try and spin it any way she wants, but show me the stats Nips.

Hey Chiefs, she’s calling your departments racist and dishonest. How about you grow a backbone and support the men/women who work under you.

Chief Wynn, I’m talking to you. Time for leadership.

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The school committee
The school committee
5 days ago

Take a ride down Elm and turn on to Dodge Ave and you will see a confederate flag flying high on a tree…..you will also see 5 houses for sale.Republicans are interesting.

Markus Aurelius
Markus Aurelius
Reply to  The school committee
4 days ago

But flying a BLM flag is OK, TSC? Just willing to give up your freedom of speech, aren’t you?

I’m willing to bet my life savings, if I looked through your posts prior to you becoming “woke,” you never said $hit, nor cared about the confederate flag. And no, I don’t care for it, ever owned one, or frankly, think about one. So, save the “racist” or whatever “ist” you plan on calling me.

The school committee
The school committee
5 days ago

What did you Trump followers think of his Iowa speech….18,000 of those whisper seeking fascist loved his whisperrrrr

12 Gauge
12 Gauge
Reply to  The school committee
4 days ago

TSC=TDS

Pat
Pat
Reply to  The school committee
4 days ago

Fascists are against freedom for citizens TSC. Remember that and then look at your far left Democrats clamping down on our freedoms and tell me who are the real fascists?