HOW DOES TYER ADMINISTRATION TREAT DECENT CITIZENS WHO WANT TO SERVE ON BOARDS? THE PLANET HAS THE DETAILS
BY DAN VALENTI
PLANET VALENTI NEWS AND COMMENTARY
(FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE, THE WEEKEND EDITION, JULY 15-7, 2022) — It was the worst of times. It was the “worst-er” of times.
What the Dickens does THE PLANET mean?
How about the dark cloud the Tyer Administration has pulled over nearly every aspect of municipal governance, save probably the city clerk’s office, which Michelle Benjamin runs with efficiency, politeness, openness (within bounds), and, above all, competence.
As for the rest of it, forget it. Case in point, the sorry state of the city’s boards and commissions. Long neglected, under Tyer they have slipped into a state either of Blind Loyalty, oblivion, or coma. Those with decent memberships have no teeth. Those with teeth are stacked with administration suck-ups (see PCTV board). To recite the litany of boards that either have vacancies, expired memberships, or haven’t met since Caesar crossed the Rubicon would be impossible.
So how, you might ask, how does one become a member of a board?
Easy. You ask. You drop a line to the corner office and tell of your willingness to serve.
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Thus, what would you say about one good, honest man with a long record of community service who asked to join the Police Advisory Review Board (PARB) and at first was ignored and then ultimately blocked by the mayor, with key assists from Roberta YabbaDabba-Dews and Catherine Von Drake (Ludwig’s daughter), her two administrative squeezes? That’s the entire corner office in all its glory.
Psssst! BTW, don’t tell anyone because they wouldn’t want you to know, but our PARB applicant is white, post-middle aged, and male.
Sound the alarms!
Aroooooga, Aroooooga, Dive! Dive!
Not that we’re saying reverse racism occurs in Pittsfield. Never, would we say that, in the same way we would never put water in a Habitant soup. Here’s the skinny:
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Our public-minded lad, Ward Cleaver, sent a letter on April 1 to Tyer via YabbaDabba, asking appointment to the PARB. All emails are guaranteed genuine and verbatim:
CLEAVER: Linda has not responded to my email regarding joining the board. I did support her opponent in the last election. She’s consumed by pettiness not what’s good for the city. That being said I’ll continue to pass information along that might be helpful:)–
Maxon: Dave I passed it on . As I mentioned we were have no say on who gets asked. I know we have three new members being approved this month.
Cleaver returns serve at 11:54:
Ellen, one other thought. One of your new members, Mr. Powell is the uncle of the officer who is subject of the complaint regarding the November 2021 election. Perhaps he should recuse himself from this matter.
Cleaver refers to Dennis Powell. His niece is a Pittsfield Police Department officer. PARB’s enacting bylaws specifically prohibit members from having family on city payroll, including nieces and nephews. The question then becomes, by what right can Powell serve? Tyer owes the community, and specifically Mr. Cleaver, an answer. Don’t hold your breath, though, because the mayor is in business mode, which means if you disagree with her, you’re a goner.
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The emails continue:
And that’s where the whole thing dies. When Cleaver tries to get some kind of answer, he finds this:
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And then this, sent July 13 at noon, to Van Bramer-Drake, only to find “Message truncated.”
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From: [DELETED]
To: “VanBramer, Catherine” <cvanbramer@cityofpittsfield.org>
Cc: lindatyer@cityofpittsfield.org
Bcc:
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 12:05:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Police Advisory and Review Board
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That, ladies and gentlemen, is how the “open, transparent” Tyer Regime treats decent folks who want to fulfill their obligations as citizens.
By the way, the city’s website currently lists four vacancies on the PARB.
Have a great weekend, everybody!
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“All life is a chance. The man who goes furthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare” — Dale Carnegie.
LOVE TO ALL.
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In the long run I would say he’s fortunate to not get involved with Tyer’s Barnum and Bailey nonsense. What a sad city.
That particular board has seen people frustrated and resigning after serving short periods of being on it. Personally,I believe this board was a way of our leaders to quite the same crowd that they need votes and support from to make them feel like they will actually have a say in how policing is done in the name supposed justice.
They are lost. Just watch their meetings.
there is no oversight in Pittsfield and if the mayor and barry have any say there is not going to be any. the city operates in an information vacuum and is tightly controlled for outside content
Pittsfield govt has morphed in the direction of a third world autocracy. tyer has it almost there
get out if you can…there is no way it gets better from here
But the Lovely Linda is a Queen who lives in a Mansion in Pittsfield’s only Gated Community where she parks her Lexus luxury car at night. We live to serve her in Pittsfield politics. We follow her edicts to pay for Pittsfield’s Level 5 public schools & substandard municipal services. We thank her for increasing city spending by 5 percent every fiscal year.
In The People’s Republic of Pittsfield information and media watches you!
What’s all the whining about? Of course Tyer isn’t going to appoint some one from the Mazzeo’s camp to a board or commission. That is like inviting the fox into the hen house. It’s like “please come and try to make me look bad.“
Do you think Mazzeo would appoint Sakshaug to a board? Of course not.
if this is the “Dave” I think it is, he says nasty stuff about Tyer on social media all the time. You may not like Tyer, but she isn’t stupid. Apparently Dave is either stupid or naive.
Well, that sure clears things up.
If the main qualification is to kiss the mayor’s behind you end up with boards and commissions qualified only to brown nose. Sort of explains why Pittsfield is where it is. She hates the G man so we have to squander millions and not save millions.
G Man equals oversight…..and if you are coming to the table with anything that looks like or talks like or remotely hints at oversight you are persona non grata.
Wow, what nasty stuff does this guy say?
The only making Tyer look bad is Tyre
Ok – this is killing me. What is the fox going to do in Tyer’s hen house/committee?
Make common sense suggestions?
Is that allowed?
Who the hell is Sakshaug and what does he have to do with this?
He is a local dentist who is a big supporter of Tyer.
Better answer is “nothing.”
But why?
manage to get city covid money does that answer your question
I’ve read that Sakshaug, lothrop, and scary barry enjoy the company of each other while romping in the deep dark secluded forests.
I hope lothrop has cell service in the deep woods in case his phone rings of the hook.
I used to call him 20 or 30 times a day urging him to run for city council.
APMRF scouts returning from recons report massive deposits of beer bottles (trendy ‘food beer’ not permitted in our ranks) and wrappers. Could be related.
Dress like Fugawi Indian and smoke-em peace pipe.
She ought at least have the decency to reject him, rather than ignore him.
When people are miserable themselves they like making life miserable as much as possible for others as well.
Yah, when she wanted MR Kronick off her city council (some of whom behave like her personal staff) she was right up front about it. The message was clear that if you question my operations I will take you down, cuz this is MY show and I make ALL the rules
Mazzeos camp? Are you saying the city is divided and Tyer wants to keep it that way?
Tyer’s camp is in Springside Park
There is going to be a couple “Debates” of sorts for the job of District Attorney. I’m not sure they will actually debate each other versus answer questions but at least there are 2 forums planned. The one to watch is hosted by the NAACP/ACLU. As a wise poster on here (it was Pat) said “The crime rates are unbelievable under this far left District Attorney and minorities have borne the brunt of the violence, so much for the far left caring about minorities.” I hope the community hears this loud and clear. The rights being violated are those of ordinary citizens who have to live with the torment of shootings mostly on the West Side. Harrington’s plea deals on gun charges and soft on crime BS is the problem. Harrington is the problem.
Our police’s handling of Homicide’s and Drug overdose deaths in our county here have been reduced to meter reader status with the current policies of our progressive law enforcement by our DA. Write a tag, attach to big toe, move-on to next.
The cult Harrington belongs to does not believe in prosecuting as homicide drug dealers who prey on addicts with their deadly fentanyl and other substances. All over the country other DA’s treat overdose deaths as prosecutable homicides against those who sold and distributed the drugs. Not ours. All Harrington does is put out a press release.It’s mind boggling how much “do-nothing” is at the core of her phony prosecution strategy. Families of victims are shattered and she does nothing to help and everything she can to reduce incarceration. Then she has the nerve to say she stands up for harm reduction. She won’t and can’t do the the most important job there is to reduce harm – stop the drug dealers!!
I wonder what % of overdose deaths were set to inherit average. Acerage that the judge wanted to gentrify.
Harrington who was elected like other progressive da’s based on reform policies and said they would be better for everyone … when is that going to start?
I hearby swear with my left hand I will not prosecute people in Massachusetts for possession of marijuana or for performing abortions. You’re welcome.
Andrea Harrington
It would be funny if it weren’t so pathetic how misleading and self serving Harrington is. She’s bragging about her media attention in the NY Times for her mindless tweet on abortion. There was a letter in the Eagle about her misleading people into believing there is a threat to abortion in Mass. She’s bragging about it!!!!
According to today’s Eagle Harrington received the endorsement of the Women’s Massachusetts Women’s Political Caucus, a group she helped found so she could endorse herself!! The Eagle reported it without mentioning that even though they did a story on it. She founded a group so it could endorse her when she was running for DA. SMH. ROFL. God help us all.
https://www.berkshireeagle.com/archives/berkshire-county-womens-political-caucus-hopes-to-close-political-gender-gap/article_d046361e-a096-59be-8589-990e78c63f88.html
Nothing like self endorsement to win over the voters who care more about their and families safety from shootings, looters, drugs etc… I’m surprised she didn’t mention the local criminals caucus endorsed her.
Sounds like money laundering for Soros and duping the press
She can’t even announce an endorsement without misleading the public and playing the woman card. Disgusting.
Is there an editor in the house? That’s more than a little embarassing for the eagle.
Embarrassing both to Wrong Way (for the desperation of it) and painful for the Eagle (for failing to point our this key issue with such an “endorsement.” Tell you what. If I’m advising Tim Shugrue, I say make that a standard inclusion on the stump: She endorsed herself! It’s beyond funny and laughable and sums up everything you need to know about the incumbent.
She endorsed herself! And we all know how refreshing that can be.
Harrington’s record is so bad she’d be better off not being the incumbent.
Yes, Dan, but as you wrote, Shugrue ought be campaining like the election is tomorrow if he wants the job. What the hell is he doing?
Wondering if “Hand Gun Helen Moon” will be involved with the debates? She is involved with the NAACP. That could be a big part of the story from debates if so.
Handgun is to “debating” what Alfred E. Neuman is to quantum physics.
From the Berkshire Eagle 7/14
District Attorney Andrea Harrington and challenger Timothy Shugrue will meet for a pair of candidate forums
PITTSFIELD — Defense attorney Timothy Shugrue and Berkshire District Attorney Andrea Harrington will meet in two forums across the county as the candidates continue to make their cases for the DA’s office.
The campaigns have both agreed to two candidate forums in August. One will be an in-person event hosted by the North Adams Democratic City Committee and Williamstown Democratic Town Committee, and another forum will be held virtually and hosted by the Berkshire County branch of the NAACP, League of Women Voters and ACLU.
Harrington’s campaign said that a third debate is in the works. Campaign representatives said that the NAACP-hosted forum is set for some time in early August, though organizers have yet to publicize details about the event.
The North County forum is set for Aug. 24 at 6 p.m. at the Greylock Community Club in North Adams. The North Adams Democratic City Committee said on its Facebook page that along with the DA candidates, an invitation has been extended to the candidates for the county’s state representative and state senator positions.
Harrington’s campaign said in a statement Thursday that the district attorney “is looking forward to participating in the upcoming debates and forums and talking about her proven record as District Attorney,” emphasizing her work on gender-based violence, the opioid epidemic and “racial disparities in the courts.”Shugrue’s campaign — which has focused on a platform of stricter drug crime prosecutions, diversion programs and combatting gun violence — said in a statement that he is excited to come before voters and give them an opportunity “to see the differences between Tim’s vision of the office of District Attorney and the one that currently exists.”
Shugrue campaign representatives told The Eagle that the campaign has reached out to the Harrington campaign to try and organize a series of cross-county debates alongside the scheduled forums.
Shugrue’s campaign manager and wife, Joann, wrote to The Eagle that Shugrue is looking for candidates to meet face-to-face and ask and answer questions from one another — not just from a moderator.
So far, the forums represent the first time the candidates will appear side-by-side before voters cast their vote in the Sept.
6 Democratic primary.
Let’s see if they reply to an invitation to THE PLANET’s offer to a debate, PLANET style. We already have a “yes” from Shugrue. We shall contact Harrington soon. Waht are the odds she will be too scared to agree?
Dan,
Harrington said another debate is in the works on top of these two scheduled. I’m thinking no way and will come up with excuses on why she can’t. She doesn’t want to expose her incompetence anymore than she has to . I don’t get why the virtual debate with the NAACP/ ACLU.
The NAACP/ACLU forum is an opportunity for Harrington to broadcast to the masses her utopian fantasies.
I see a lot of Bowler and Alf signs around town. Most of Alfs signs are on public property however. Thought that was illegal.
Alf’s signs look like they were made by a 7th grade boy which is appropriate since that’s right about at his maturity level.
Alf can’t hold a candle in the maturity department with the DA seen here tweeting about Snooky, the hot mess reality show from Jersey Shore. Doesn’t Berkshire County have something like 14 homicide cases? Hashtag party’s here!!!
Jesse Mermell @jessemermell
1d
**Sends to all my NEPA friends**
John Fetterman @JohnFetterman
Hey @DrOz
JERSEY loves you + will not forget you!!!
@harringtonforda
Replying to @jessemermell
@snooki hosting a master class in throwing shade to save democracy! She had me at #party’shere!
Harrington’s tenure ought to cause everyone of us to wonder if the DA’s term should be two years instead of four.
Send an email about joining a board with this in it:
“ So what’s going on Roberta? Does Linda hate my guts?”
I wouldn’t let you on a board either.
Dude sounds like a crackpot.
TRUTH
That was a strong line, granted. But I can attest, dude is not what you surmise. He’s been an active member of the community, in many civic projects. That line comes from an accumulation of sleights, none of the egregious, but they added up. I think the frustration came out when, at a time when the PARB was begging for members and he responded, he got … nothing. Not even a rejection explaining why he would not be a good fit. Nothing. That’s not how you treat citizens.
As you say, there are generals, then there’s Pericles.
Yup. Great, great man, the chief driver of democracy at the height of Athens’ rise. Interesting, he, along with Pittsfield’s two great men — Peter Arlos and Chuck Garivaltis — were/are also Greek.
In Pittsfield it’s PericLESS
In Pittsfield we don’t even have Pericomo.
or pterodactyls
There’s nobody in view who shall demand a higher standard of professionalism.
What do these boards do? Anything at all useful or are they just sort of an insiders club?
They are given an agenda and a predetermined conclusion they are to come to after tossing a huge ambiguous word salad around while attempting to give the appearance of due diligence and deep thought.
linda HATES good decent moral people. Everyone can see the evidence of this for themselves by just looking at the company/ass wipes she keeps/marries. But I hate bad people. Linds, overpaid/underqualified Roberta, Linda’s other asswipe catherine, and micHELL wynn’And that’s not the whole list.
Funny story…. I, during a portion of my homeless advocacy, came out to see this new jobsite trailer, that was to be used as a warming area for our homeless during the day, due to the Covid restrictions in place, eliminating the Library, Senior Center and Christian Center to go to stay warm. So, some 3 months later after promised by flat Tyer. Herself and her besties at the Christian Center for this trailer, with the finest of porta-potty is made a big deal, scissors for ribbon cutting and all. I am milling around, checking it all out, when as I was passing by Flat Tyer she looks at me and says in front of about 6 or so spectators, “You don’t like me do you”? I was dumbstruck! I had never, ever engaged in any interaction with her ever. Was it the way I was inspecting the trailer or just that good looking…lol. “It’s simply Politics, I said, happy to see you finally kept a promise”, of course, we only had maybe another month of harsh Winter. How odd that was for me!
https://www.wcvb.com/article/labor-of-love-preserving-the-legacy-and-cabin-of-james-weldon-johnson-in-great-barrington-massachusetts/37875136
Are public officials supposed to block citizens?
I was wondering too. There’s something written somewhere about the right to petition your elected. Specifically the right to complain and grouse and sound off.
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”
Albeit it applies to Congress, but maybe the complaint pending should be referred to Human Rights Commission.
Charles beware of the stooge. He’s the Bud Melman look alike on pctv.
Come on Cliff will not tolerate that nonsense Charles.
She makes up her own rules
In Pittsfield, apparently, the answer is yes. That’s how the mayor, the council led by its hack leadership, most department heads, and the school committee read the charter. In honest cities that are blessed with good government (Lebanon, NH, for example) public officials advocate FOR citizens.
Have said it over and over, if this type of behavior by Tyer and her “office bouncers” occurred in the private sector they would be fired. Don’t know about anyone else but I am really sick and tired of being forced to accept this type of behavior! People say vote them out, yeah right! It has amazed me since the last election that everyone I know voted against Tyer, so gee, I wonder how she won??? Barry?? Whether it be local, state or federal government, how can people trust the voting system. Thought we were the land of the free but it is beginning to feel that we are the land of no voice, or if we do voice our opinions we are shut down. Look at the way Pee Pee Petie shuts down residents/voters and even city councilors that don’t agree with the Mayor’s view at the CC meetings. Something is really wrong with government actions in our Country, don’t care how it is fixed or which party does it, they all need to just stop lying, hiding and grandstanding their nonsense pompous egos. How are we suppose to trust these losers that are ruining our City and our Country?
With the mail-in ballots, we may NEVER be able to vote anybody out or vote them in for that matter. These mail-in ballots were so abused during the 2020 presidential election and I just saw an ad today saying to request your mail-in ballots. As far as I can see, you can request them for any reason, there is little oversight, and the vote counting can go on for days after the election or until the powers that be get the result they want. This is such fraud.
Without universal mail-in balloting, Biden would have lost. That is certain. Without such balloting in the most recent mayoral election, it’s an open question: Would Mazzeo have won?
So what you are saying Dan is basically the election was stolen from trump , albeit a legal theft, vis a vis mail in balloting, and may have been stolen in similar vein from Mel Mazz
But that is not how we run voting in America Dan
Mail in ballots have been around for years and years.They were used to elect Traitor Trump over Hillary.You have a racist white republican party.
TSC
True about mail-in ballots. They’ve been around for years. But it was only in 2020 that mail-in ballots were handed out and mailed to every registered voter. The opportunities for counterfeiting the vote was there on a platter (the same one that once carried John the Baptist’s head). This year, unless the SJC rules otherwise (which it won’t), Massachusetts will send 4.5 million mail-in ballots, one to every registered voter. No election that does this can be considered fair and just. Neither than computer balloting, when a hacker who know what they’re doing can easily break into the software.
They finally admitted the Dominion machines were prone to tampering and fraud.
Watch 2000 Mules TSC. Fraudulent mail in ballots for Traitor Joseph Stolen nationwide.
https://rumble.com/v13v4sv-2000-mules.html
Mail-in ballots were never given to every voter in the country. That is insanity. There are NO checks and balances on this process and that’s exactly why the Democrats want these mail-in ballots so badly.
Spot on, Pat.
Elections rigged in MA.
Magic Ballots
https://pjmedia.com/columns/stephen-kruiser/2022/07/15/gop-needs-to-be-outside-the-margin-of-magic-mail-in-ballots-in-november-n1612906
Well that G-man has been speaking to the tax rate prayers for five years now,he claims to have saved over $100 million in the 80s and could do it again today,,says he built plants in Lee and Lenox and several plants across Europe and Asia as well as facilities in South America? If he could say that kind of money in the 80s why couldn’t he save that that kind of money today? Like he says, give him a chance,whats to lose,go G-man. He,apparently,at the city Council meeting the other night was pretty good, kept the pressure on them. The. rate and taxpayers should welcome the intervention on here as well. Lets get behind him a little bit so we got somebody in our corner.
G-Man should be allowed entry to the water plants and asked to write a report, with his specific specifications. The city should pay him as a consultant for this work, but knowing the G-man, he would do it because it’s the right thing to do, for the Kapanskis.
He’s a fraud.
MB,
“ Office Bouncers “ great analogy! In order to.get in a cover charge that most can’t pay so your bounced.
Recall?
By next year, a mayoral election year, if this ineptness and outrage continue, there could well be a tipping point. There’s never been this much anger and frustration by ordinary citizens, the ones that the Tyer Regime lvoes to torture. All it takes is a spark. What is that spark? THE PLANET has several notions but for now are keeping them close to the vest. The vest, by the way, is made of silk, a hand-me-down from Jock Mahoney.
But Barry will be counting the ballots…….
Don’t forget he will be counting the ones from the drop box in front of Cumbies at 3 am if needed.
Who are the possible ethical candidates who might run against her?
Odds are tyer will run against another good old boy who will just take over the reins and do the same shit she is doing. She is just a puppet after all. The good old boys do not care WHO the puppet is as long as they do as told. They may feel they have used her long enough and may be happy to toss her aside and put in a new face that the people will have false hope in for a while. In the meantime however, they want her to put as much of those millions into friendly pockets as she possibly can before any election.
Whatever happened to the Berkshire Carousel on Center Street in Pittsfield? Is this something else that Pittsfield has messed up? I remember watching the carousel horses being built for years at the Berkshire Mall and the anticipation was great for the grand opening. I heard there was a lot of mismanagement of the Carousel, but we never got any solid answers on just what happened.
It was in the wrong election year Pat. Tyer dropped it along with her blight promise like a lead fart.
DANCING
Case in point: Hess Forest.
Could someone get a pic of Calvin DeForest from the LettermanShow on here? Pleeeeeze
You have to watch these questions from Handguns debate for sheriff. None so far have anything to do with how the sheriff runs the jail. She also has muted back and forth debate. This has to stop. Why would these candidates want this zoom interview. Go into a damn studio wtth Valenti.
DI
Thanks. This was an “Amateur Hour” debate, not worthy of the office or the two men seeking it. 1.) Held on zoom-type media. Cop out. 2.” Inexperienced host who doesn’t have a clue. 3.) Softball questions eliciting little useful info for the electorate. 4.) As you astutely point out, DI, no back-and-forth. When I moderate a debate, it’s just that: We dust off two hot seats, put the candidates next to each other, no notes of cheat seat, and plenty of back-and-forth. Our debates decide elections.
That’s saying it mildly Dan As the Greek god used to say,’your to kind’.But can you vote for either one of these Buford Pussers type.
Right on.Tim will get the the same treatment in the NAACP/ACLU virtual debate, which he should demand a in person debate.The only thing I’m wondering is if Moon will put Harrington in the cross hairs after leaving the da’s office on terms that appears to show a fracture in their friendship over the direction of how Harrington was running the office.
The people involved in that labor of love project were actually people who care about Pittsfield. They donated their own time/ability/positive energy for the good of Pittsfield. And the moral of this is sad Pittsfield story is that ‘No good deed goes unpunished.’ But anyway, next time the subject of Pittsfield taxpayer funded Pickleball comes up, Bousquet on Dan Fox Drive is currently offering Pickleball memberships for just $29 a month for all those Pickleball aficionados. Let the pickle Ballers pay for their own good time.
I’m watching these bicyclists in the county. It’s a miracle the numbers aren’t higher with run downs. One other incident is the lack of accidents on Hancock road. Amazing the low amount also. With this being said accidents on both will increase soon. Both are inevitable.
And keep off the roads if you can many horn blowers out there.
Keep your listening ears perked up. Linda has people looking into doing something about Waconah Park. “Apparently”, someone found a structure flaw in the grandstand and as always happens in Pittsfield, we are going full monty and rebuilding the whole thing. I know those bathrooms and club houses have been done over many times but she is not happy with them either.
Would not surprise me if she wants to build a whole new stadium and not in the current location. Paper said it will require public funding. Her consultants are putting together a “plan.”
Get out if you can
I’d like to see pictures of the problem steel that all of a sudden went bad.
It was a scam.
The city wanted control over its finances. Their concern was not what it might add to tourism or happy children, but rather how much they could skim off any money it made from food, souveniers or any other ancillary income. This whole local govt thing is about “what’s in it for me”.
That’s horrible. The Carousel should have gone to Dalton as everyone was hoping or even Lanesborough. I knew Pittsfield politics was somehow involved in the destruction of the beautiful Carousel.
Where are the beautiful horses now? Are they sitting in a warehouse somewhere never to be seen again?
The Pittsfield PARB fabricated by scary tyer-barry-tyer-actingchiefwynn was intentionally designed as another layer of subterfuge. I’m not suggesting that the chosen PARB Board members were in on this farce, in the beginning. I’d rather hope that some of them actually believed this bogus board was legitimate, even though all the board members knew from the beginning that this board was a slobbering drooling toothless whimpering one-legged mongrel without the ability to even bark at PPD corruption/brutality. The wynn/tyer PARB was never going to affect any change for the better, because that’s the way wynn/tyer designed it. It was never manufactured to ferret out police misconduct, it wasn’t going to identify and expose bad cops in the PPD. tyer/wynn modeled their corrupt PARB code of silence on the monkey doctrine.
(1) ‘Don’t listen to the truth because it will disturb all your consoling lies.’
(2) ‘Don’t look at the truth; otherwise, your God will be dead, and your heaven and hell will disappear.’
(3) ‘Don’t speak the truth, otherwise you will be condemned, crucified, poisoned, tortured by the whole crowd, the unconscious people.’
(4) ‘Keep your pleasures, your joys, hidden. Don’t let anybody know that you are a cheerful man, a blissful man, an ecstatic man, because that will destroy your very life. It is dangerous.’
Watch the movie cop town This is what’s going on in Pittsfield from top to bottom not just PPD or anything else all of it
Cop land p…..sorry Planites lol Cop Land.
The A G tells the da the state sen tells the rep the rep tells the lawyers who tell the puppet master who tells the mayor who tells the puppet council. The end game they get what they want and need. The schools don’t get anything unless the city conforms and aligns with the state. The Unions Vote Block is the end game. It’s the lies and deceit that gets the taxpayer to anti up. IT will never change.l
Is very good. Elegant and fine. Only change: look at the Truth and your eyeballs will melt. Minor.
The Secret Service deleted all information relating to Trump coup attempt which involved the military,congress persons, the Department of Justice,Oath Keepers and t he Supreme Court and the wife of Justice Thomas,Rudy,Bannon,Stone….we are right in the middle of a Trump white power corporate Coup now……These people are disgusting anti American Authoritarian racist
cuckoo cuckoo…….
Ultra cuckoo
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Being a troll is bad. Being a boring troll is unforgivable.
But now that you have identified your problem you can get counseling and make yourself a better person.
Do you care to share the name and number for where you and TSC get your counseling? I want to make sure I don’t use them because obviously your wasting time and money.
They get help from Yuki at Meth.
You watch FOX media
TSC thinks there’s no business like troll business
On January 6th, the Regime media, and even much of the Republican Party, immediately declared the Capitol riots an “armed insurrection,” an assault on democracy, and the worst day for the republic since Pearl Harbor or even the Civil War.
For months, Revolver has been doing the investigative work that America’s hundreds of other news outlets are too corrupt or too cowardly to perform themselves. We have watched the tape, read the indictments, dissected the news reports, and punctured the narratives.
Most notably, Revolver’s reporting changed the entire national narrative on 1/6 by focusing on evidence of foreknowledge and active instigation on 1/6 by elements of the federal government itself. It is this dark revelation that has generated howls of hysterical denunciation across the broad spectrum of Regime media outlets and mouthpieces.
On the anniversary of that now fateful day of January 6, 2021, it is more important than ever that American citizens learn the truth about what really happened.
Accordingly, we have reproduced the most classic Revolver News investigative reports to get you, your family, your friends, even your open minded acquaintances up to speed.
The Regime is attempting to use the false narrative of January 6 to label Trump supporters — and really anyone who dares to be critical of the Regime — as domestic terrorists.
One of the best ways to fight back against this agenda is to learn the truth in the articles that follow and share it with others.
https://www.revolver.news/2022/01/the-essential-revolver-news-january-6-reading-list/
You support Trumps terror.As the proud boys stated that we showed up because we believed TRUMPS LIE….You believe Trumps lie.LOL
Must have been pretty terrifying to have been shot by Pelosi’s goon.
https://rumble.com/v1a7sg1-when-beavis-and-butthead-find-out-they-have-white-privilege..html
Beavis Butthead enlightened with white privilege
Hilarious, TRAP!
Does Pete White know about this?
Joe Biden met with Saudi Crown Prince MBS in Saudi Arabia on Friday, 7/15/2022. Joe Biden will give MBS billions of federal dollars in return for more Saudi oil and gas exports in return for Saudi Arabia buying billions of dollars in U.S. arms. That’s the U.S. economy in a nutshell! Pollution and War and the Almighty Dollar are always more important to the Swamp than the so-called Green New Deal and Human Rights and Democracy. What else should I have expected?
He should have tried Duke Ellington and Count Basie.
Interestingly anugh
https://www.searchpeoplefree.com/find/andrea-c-harrington/279EAdWBB6p5
It is sad when statements from the Saudis, are more coherent and honest about Biden’s failed US energy policies…….ready to buy home heating oil soon?
“Saudi Prince Turki Al-Faisal — who had previously served as head of Saudi intelligence and an ambassador to the U.S. — told CNBC that Biden was a “much-diminished president” compared with when he was inaugurated in January 2021.
“As an example, on energy issues, he came in with a policy to stop completely fossil fuel usage not only in the United States, but worldwide,” Prince Turki said. Now, Biden has a need for fossil fuel, “not only because of the Ukraine war, but also because of U.S. policy itself that shut down pipelines and stopped issuing….discovery of oil on U.S. soil,” Turki said.”
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/07/15/biden-gets-mocked-as-saudis-sweep-the-leg-out-from-under-his-claims-n595845
But, at least so far, he has not been impeached twice.
He won’t be exonerated, when he and family are.
When an impeachment is initiated and conducted the McCarthy gang supported by photoshopped doctored evidence, I don’t think we can fairly call it an impeachment.
There is a word for it, but not impeachment.
Starting with Clinton, we now know that every U.S. president going forward will cause Congress to casually bat around talk of “impeachment.” The word for it is politics in the heat of blind hatred. These days, mispronouncing a word from a Teleprompter triggers calls for investigations. If it’s the Prez, you then hear that “imp” word.
Only thing, some impeachments will be based on high crimes and misdeamoners, treachery, sedition, zombified incompetence. (Ballot/electoral fraud, private dealing with foreign enemies and evading foreign policy, deliberate undermining of borders, etc…. ) Some may be declared a reanimated zombie and articled 27’d away and used for military scientific research. Some will be spurious attempts to discredit conducted under with hearing-like publicity and initiated days before the candidate gets elected. ‘My first act will be to impeach the [M-*]”.
Clinton committed perjury in defending himself against his rape case which initiated the impeachment, low-bar (not really pertinent to conduct in office, an old rape, not one of his current rapes) excuse as it was, the charge did fit the bill*. I opposed that impeachment even though I begrudged the legitimacy of the accusation. And we know today (I didn’t believe it then) that the corruption in that admin was real.
*Further debatable: try to find any sociopath in high office who has committed a rape or similar crime in their past. We’d have only 25 presidents who could finish their terms, with at most 2 from the 20 century.
How did Republicans deal with global warming ? Denial
Almost all Republicans think “denial” is a river in Egypt. All Dems think the same thing. Welcome to American politics.
“global warming” is due to the natural change, the climate of the earth undergoes, since 4 billion years ago.
Liberals are using the rhetoric to further their agendas. Pelousey flies back and forth trans-America weekly, in a HUGE plane. How is her “carbon footprint”?
You believe 4 billion years ago and today are good comparisons, only ex Rush listener swallows what oil companies tell them
Let’s see how you deal with global warming this winter when creepy joe has heating oil at eight bucks a gallon.
The corporate press won’t report on Ukraine anymore or the 2 billion dollars Jared Tump got to payoff his 750,000,000 loan from Russia
Too weird for words…..
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/07/bidens-transgender-assistant-health-secretary-rachel-levine-gender-fluid-pup-handler-sam-brinton-attend-french-ambassadors-bastille-day-party/
Charles? Why hasn’t there been Any accountability at the water sewer plant and cost thereof of the new water plant with the high rates,other than saying people can’t afford it.I would think you councilors specifically you, would be more vetted and interested in saving the taxpayers and rate payers tens of millions. We don’t even have a competent DPW commissioner that knows anything about water,let alone the city council.
In theory,better yet fact the rose owns the project and calls its own shots with taxpayer funding. And many are sick of the adage well I don’t have the support from my fellow councilors. Do Something!!! This could be crime weekend here in the city pray for our safety officers.
Yes, the whole world is laughing at America.
It so bad, even Biden’s teleprompter laughs at him.
Check out these local camps here we’re outsiders come in like from New York are they children’s camps in our adult camps and you know damn well they’re drinking I feel bad for the camp arrowhead neighborhood and they’re right there’s no room up there to begin with for cars to go through there let alone drinking like fishes over the weekend going back in New York
Hundred percent correct. Probably n y thumbs down. The truth hurts. Must be food vendors.
Posted this again because it went into orbital altitude.
Seems like Harrington has to piggyback on other events because……?
From an article in the Berkshire Eagle:
Berkshire District Attorney Andrea Harrington has announced that she will co-host an event for Attorney General and Democratic candidate for Governor Maura Healy on July 26 in Pittsfield.
The event will take place at Hotel on North and will be co-hosted by other Berkshire Democrats, including Senator Adam Hinds, Representatives Tricia Farley- Bouvier, and Mayor Linda Tyer.
Everybody should dress up as bums, with MAGA hats, and troll the sidewalk with beggar/”houseless” signs.
Dump off some birdie scooters and syringes in front of the door……….
Holding signs welcoming them to Dynamic and Vibrant Pittsfield.
Curious if the mayor and the rest consider this their endorsement of both Harrington for da or just Maura Healy for governor?
Maura Healey can do for Massachusetts what Linda Tyer and Tricia have done for Pittsfield.
More insider trading by Pelousey crime family….Drunk Paul……
“The New York Post reported:
I’m hoping the whole thing gets tossed in the eternal drain but most politicians in Washington are in on the action to enrich themselves off these back door room deals. They can get together to pass thousand page bills and can’t pass a probably 1 page bill that stop’s this crap.
They don’t even, read the bills they vote on.
Remember “Soterocare”? “We have to pass the bill to see what’s in it….” – N Pelousey
USA is a Kakistocracy – a government run by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens.
The word was coined as early as the seventeenth century. The word is derived from two Greek words, kakistos (worst) and kratos (rule), with a literal meaning of government by the worst
people.
Boy you’ve got that right!
Butthead, Dr. Levine, Blinken, Walsh, the Pelosi crime family as mentioned above in Trapper’s post, Harris, Schumer, Shiff, McConnell, the Biden crime family etc etc – the list is huge!
She needs to resign
Trumps Proud boys were told to make a list of Democrat politicians to kill and it was to look like the playing cards used in Iraq.Don Trump is the most disgusting low life terrorist in American history.
Biden’s Bed Pan Boys are Biden’s caretakers .
The plush NYC apartment that Donald’s ex wife was living in is back in his hands and the kids want to see the will to see if she left them any goodies. Making lemons out of lemonade in Trump world. But seriously, did she really fall down the stairs? HUh, really? Not so sure about that considering the players involved here.
Have you seen the data dump from Hunter’s iCloud account? More drugs, whores, and corrupt deals with foreign governments.
His father figures prominently in the Son’s foul spoor.
a.k.a. “The Big Guy.”
Such a brain-dead nomiker – so obscure! Could have used ‘beaver’, ‘shithead’, crackpot. Those would be second-guessers.
Don’t fret, the J6 committee is all over it already. They have hired Angela Lansbury of Murder, She Wrote to look into it all and report her findings on all you mentioned to them.
Yes, the J6 Committee is busy looking for rumors, having exhausted all to date. I’m wondering if Cheney has contacted any of our Berkshire friends for fresh charges.
The Proud Boys have been totally exonerated by correspondence Jan 2021 by FBI mole, that Chenney and inquisition et al, never revealed as exculpatory evidence.
“THEY ALL LIED AND WE HAVE PROOF! Highly Sensitive DOJ Jan 6. Documents Leaked to The Gateway Pundit – FBI Confidential Human Source INFILTRATED Proud Boys, Ran FBI Operation on J-6, Reported They Were INNOCENT! — See Texts and Documents IN FULL!!”
“A whistleblower has leaked a treasure trove of documents and text messages, some marked “Highly Sensitive”, to the Gateway Pundit. These documents contain incredible exculpatory evidence proving the Department of Justice was aware that a group of Indicted Proud Boys were innocent- yet are prosecuting them anyway.
You can find the entire dump of documents below, which includes hundreds of pages of transcripts of audio-recorded interviews with an Assisting United States Attorney, FBI Agents and their “Confidential Human Source”. The Confidential Human Source, or CHS, infiltrated the Kansas City Proud Boy Group for over a year and a half before the January 6th event and kept the FBI goons informed on the group’s activity.
Our source who is familiar with the FBI informant and has identified him as James Ehren Knowles.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mdcr198jrp4t320/FED%20attached%20to%20Proud%20Boys.pdf?dl=0
“Ocasio-Cortez spoke to a liberal reporter about the incident, accusing Capitol Police of working with the January 6th rioters.
In the video, AOC just made a confession saying that the Capitol Police opened the door wide on January 6.”
“The Gateway Pundit reported a year ago that the US Capitol doors were opened from the inside, and AOC just admitted that today.”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/07/angry-aoc-admits-capitol-police-held-doors-wide-open-january-6-video/
There are secret tapes in Baltimore
Someone replied emailed me: Good letter – would like to understand your thinking on ‘shell games’.
My reply is that big government (billions of dollars in Boston and trillions of dollars in the Swamp) gives away a large percentage of the state and federal budgets to enrich the Financial, Corporate and Ruling Elites at the public trough. To illustrate, Beacon Hill lawmakers use (voluntary) regressive taxation schemes (i.e., the state lottery, casino gambling, excise taxes on marijuana, tobacco and alcohol taxes) in order to be able to giveaway a little less than $18 billion dollars per fiscal year in state tax breaks to Boston area big businesses that do not benefit most regions of Massachusetts, such as my mostly rural native Berkshire County. To illustrate, the Swamp deficit spends trillions of dollars per year, while the middle-class families in America have been systemically decimated over the past 50 years. The gap between the Haves and Have Nots now parallels the 1920s, which was one hundred years ago, and the tens if not hundreds of trillions of dollars in federal debts will be paid for by the forthcoming generations of American households who will have to struggle to not fall into our nation’s huge and always growing larger underclass.
Jonathan A. Melle
Then contact your pen pals directly!
We’ve heard all this crap a thousand times over!
We live in corporate fascism.The people have not been in charge since Ronald Reagan
Try JFK was the Presidency that started to steal elections and FDR was the Presidency that took the rights of the people away. I guess you didn’t live through these times but I hope you would have studied History of the US before spouting your lies
Good catch by Optimus Prime: in her latest deception, Harrington is trailing around after Maura Healey attending events and knocking on doors to make it look like Healey “progressives” have endorsed her. Have they? It does look as though Healey has figured out that endorsing an unqualified politically ambitious incompetent and then putting them in charge of life and death situations was a bit of a boo-boo in the last election. Now that Harrington has a proven record of incompetence she’s radioactive. Let’s review. After three and half years Harrington has proven experience as a terrible prosecutor having lost every case she tried. The office record is abysmal – homicide cases lost or dropped, gun charges dropped or plead down, drug cases dismissed, failure to assemble witnessses for assault cases and on and on. Harrington repeatedly chooses to ignore criminal laws by overriding the legislature. Funding comes largely from outside Berkshire County. Employees have blown the whistle on everything from refusing to obey public records requets to refusing to obey campaign laws. New hires are given important functions like running the sexual assault unit, then mysteriously disappear to re-surface as defense attorneys. Ethical complaints have been rampant, from attacking a sitting judge to failing to pay taxes or renew a driver’s license – each of these accompanied by “spin” explainations. Harrington has antagonized police, the Sheriff and other Mass. district attorneys yet loves photo ops and endorsing political allies across the country at every turn. To summarize for Healey or anyone thinking of endorsing Andrea Harrington:
Report card:
Public safety: F
Fidelity to the rule of law F
community support F
personal integrity F
office morale F
teamwork with law enforcement F
Did you hear? The new drug injection site is going to be in Richmond between the new town center and the school?
Talking about the Pump Track at Springside Park,If the application and or design has been approved by an entity like the Parks Commission,isn’t that the same as approving ?.. Another item is at City Council and has been going on for years where a petition or communication is announced for approval for purposes of discussion?
Did they not get the memo? Progressive law enforcement is out.
On the day after Boudin was recalled last month, President Joe Biden told reporters, “I think the voters sent a clear message last night: Both parties have to step up and do something about crime, as well as gun violence.” He reminded everyone that his budget called for more money to hire and train more cops.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/george-gascon-deep-dive-00045603
No the progressive DA’s like our own current Berkshire County DA didn’t get the memo.They want to use any money they get their hands on for community policing rather hiring police.As it is they “Fist Bump “ the criminals on their way out of the courthouse after they are released on no bail, reduced sentences do to plea bargains, Bungled prosecution, Charges not being brought or being outright dropped etc….
Is it true, that silver spoon Alf is in the hiring process for another state job……..clerk in the Springfield courts……
Yes but turned it down. This clown is convinced he’s gonna be the next sheriff.
Here’s a man who knows what he is talking about. A recent letter to the editor by Mr. Evan Berkowitz focused on the foolhardy plan to renovate Wahconah Park. Many important points are made about the nostalgia, convenience, and ease of spectators watching a game. Seating at Wahconah is spectacular. All seats are close to the infield. You can see a pitcher’s curve ball break or a fluttering knuckleball. So what if the batter’s box faces west and there are occasional sun delays? All these things make Wahconah Park unique and historic. A few summer ball games called semi-pro baseball are all we have there now. This is good and pleases many people, including me. We have to understand we are not going to attract a professional baseball team. At our level colleges are now the low level of pro baseball. High school football – in another bonehead move – is now played on a field five miles from our downtown. And now a committee will be formed to decide on how to renovate Wahconah Park. I’m going to make a suggestion I made a few weeks ago on Dan’s blog. Save a few million dollars and install a few 3 X 5 pillars under the existing grandstand that will reinforce the entire structure. What we have there is unique. Let’s not ruin another piece of Pittsfield’s proud history.
Well, stated, CHUCK. Interesting point about college baseball. Div. 1 college programs are the equivalent of what the D, C, and B leagues used to be to pro ball up through the 1960s, even rookie leagues like the Appalachian League. That was pro ball. Today, the proliferation of summer college leagues, such as the one in which the Suns play, offer the opportunity for serious college players to keep playing ball when school is out. As for Wahconah Park, yes, proper girders strategically placed would solve the grandstand issue. Simple, straightforward, logical, and makes sense. In Pittsfield, unfortunately, those are the reasons NOT to do something.
Remember former Governor George Wallace during the Bussing error “do we need it or do we wanna
This kinda falls in the middle,as in design consultants get the porage. Call it I don’t know. Bottom line is nobody goes to games anymore less you got a major outfit that wants to come in here with good players ex highschoolers College doesn’t make it
My most vivid memory of George Wallace comes from 1972, the day me met Arthur Bremer. I was never a Wallace fan, but I loathed assassins even more.
They are having a discussion on CNN right now and I don’t watch CNN that often about men having babies is that even possible.
I’d like to see a new turf field put in at Wahconah like bcc if they t
Do anything? Let’s name it Garivaltas field @ Wahconah Dowd Lake
The field at BCC was made incorrectly, it should be wider and a little longer. Also they really didn’t think about seating for fans
Does anyone notice since cliffy’s been on the parks commission everything’s been a mess for 30 years
Most vivid is when he got shot,common man?
And I’m not so sure historic Park could be messed with aesthetically but who gives a crap nobody goes to the games other than the politicking holes. But Chuck I wanna ask you a question why you’re on here if I may imagine June 21 parks commission they’re finally addressing the traffic and parking at Deming. Unbelievable they finally figured out there’s a problem been like that for 1000 years.
Kays, To answer your question, I’m on here because I am interested in community events and maybe adding knowledge and clarity to questionable issues. As you know, Planet Valenti is the daily public forum where issues are discussed and explored, often, with positive results adopted for the city’s progress. I’m sure most will agree there is nothing wrong with listening to public comments. If only we had done this before destroying parkland at Clapp, Deming, and the Common Parks. And now we have to worry about losing more park space for the ridiculous “pickleball” nonsense.
Chuck think he she meant while you’re on here? No.
Deming has the 2 best baseball fields in Pittsfield and the worst basketball court.
I am thus vindicated.
I am with your idea of reinforcement of the grandstand and also been underneath the grandstands albeit in the early 1970’s. My best friend and myself attendended a majority of the Pittsfield Senators/Rangers from 1970-75 and Berkshire Brewers in 1976. We always snuck in and would ultimely end up in Big Pat McKernan’s office and he always laughed would give us odd jobs like batboy if the visiting team didnt have one or passing out all star ballots to pay for addmission a soda and hotdog. One of the least glamorous was going under the grandstands to retreive keys or wallets that may have fallen through the boards of the grandstand floor. Underneath was basically I-beams anchored in pile foundations. If the pile foundations are sound your plan is a no brainer. Here is a quick explaination of what a pile foundation is:
http://www.understandconstruction.com/pile-foundations.html
I cut my cable cord almost a year ago and have been watching NETFLIX ever since. Watched a docu-drama on Jim Boutin.
“The Battered Bastards of Baseball” (2014)
Granted, it said nothing about the Pits, but his book was a real pissah!
What that man could’ve done for the Pitts if so many people kept their fingers out of the pie!
THAT was GOBSIG @ it’s finest!!!!
Great man!!!!
Just read an article on the Grand Opening of the Goodwill Store in Allendale. People were lined around the building waiting to get in. This hoopla actually made me feel sad at what has happened to the City. Shows the state of the economy in Pittsfield. Tyer’s “Bouncer Roberta McCullogh Dews” attended the celebration for Tyer. Tyer must be on another much needed “vacation”. Meanwhile “Bouncer Dews’s” boss just keeps raising taxes in the City, oh, wait a minute her boss also handed out almost a million to “Bouncers” husband. What a sad state of affairs in this City.
M&B
How sad. The opening of a Goodwill, drawing the throngs. Not the opening of a new manufacturing plant. Yabba Dabba Dews was given the thankless task, I see. Who would want that job? Greeter at a Goodwill. Sounds racist to me.
When Big Lots relocated to Dalton Avenue and opened their new store, which is very nice, absolutely no hoopla for them. Unfortunately, Big Lots nice new store now smells of the pot growing building at Berkshire Roots. Can imagine purchasing a new piece of furniture from Big Lots for a good chunk of money, get it home and find it reeks of pot. Priorities in this City stink…no pun intended.
Quit whining about the weed smell. By now we’ve all had a chance to experience the air on Dalton Ave and your claims are exaggerated. At least it’s not toxic like all the GE smells we grew up with.
The stench reaches all the way up Allengate Ave. It is obnoxious and something a homeowner should not expect or tolerate.
How does one exaggerate claims about the smell of cannabis? Are you saying the report is false?
Charles I know you’re old enough to remember when Pittsfield had manufacturing jobs. These jobs were found in buildings that had lots of smells and noises and truck traffic and lights that sometimes were on all night. Only a few such places remain and if you want to chase them away then have at it.
Stay on topic. Are you agreeing the reports of marijuana stench is NOT exaggerated? If so, we can plod forward.
You know what exaggerated means, right? Look it up. I stand by that assessment.
Have you assessed the stench? If so, what are your standards?
Sounds like a right to farm argument is around the corner