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MIGOS’ TAKEOFF KILLED; RAPPER SHOT IN DICE GAME … THAT’S NOT ONLY AN UPWARD CAREER MOVE, BUT THAT’S ENTERTAINMENT … or … MOZART SCHMOZART

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BY DAN VALENTI

PLANET VALENTI NEWS AND COMMENTARY

(FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE, THE WEEKEND EDITION JAN. 20-22, 2023) — Today on THE PLANET, something completely different, inspired by an  encounter on campus with one of today’s typical young scholars. The meeting preempted an additional PLANET CAT-Scan/autopsy of the most recent city council meeting, although, if you put your thinking caps on, you’ll be able to extrapolate how this weekend’s column can relate to the city’s current cultural, social, and political meltdown.

———- ooo ———-

Offset, Quavo, and Takeoff.

No, they’re not Teletubbies, Teenage Mutant Knuckleheads, or the new Three Stogies. They’re the members of a musical act called Migos.

You may have missed it, but Takeoff (real name Kirshnik Khari Ball … no relation to Lucille) crash landed at a private party in Houston, TX. He got shot and killed (black-on-black) in a late-October argument after a dice game. For rappers, getting shot is an upward career move. Getting shot and killed? That’s Triple Dog Ascendancy.

THE PLANET mentions this after hearing a young man (backward baseball cap, skinny, pale as death, covered in tattoos, baggy pants pulled to his crack … maybe you’ve seen him?) confidently assert that hip hop/rap is the artistic superior of Beethoven, Bach, and Brahms, and all classical music. He rattled off a bunch of rapster names and settled on Migos as tops.

“Better than Mozart,” he intoned. We were amazed he even knew the name “Mozart.” Gosh, was he a music student? No.

Turns out he heard it in connection with his second favorite hip-hopper, J Dilla (don’t ask).

———- ooo ———-

The lad, 19, is a proud product of Pittsfield Public Schools. He is unemployed and lives with his girlfriend on government freebies. Only he didn’t call them handouts. He called them his “rights” as a citizen. EBT cards. Section 8 rent. State-subsidized smart phone. Stop me us if you’ve heard this one before.

THE PLANET  simply listened, drawing several reasonable conclusions not only about this lad in particular but about the state of popular culture, accepting this Pittsfield flunky as our sampling subset.

Takeoff of Migos, shot down in a dice game, better than Mozart. Betcha didn’t know.

We finally asked the young man to recommend a Migos song. Instantly, he pulled up “Young Rich Niggas” on Spotifyt. We listened. After that, we played him the beginning of the 1st movement of Mozart’s Symphony 40 in G Minor and asked him what he thought.

“Boring. I don’t get it.”

———- ooo ———-

Here, for the curious, are the words to the Migos “song.” I’m told this is one of the more “listenable and clean” in the repertoire.

“Young Rich Niggas”

[Hook: Quavo]
Money and the power, you gotta have respect, benz coop, jaguar, G five jets
Young Rich Niggas, Young Rich Niggas, Young Rich Niggas, Young Rich Niggas [x2][Verse: Quavo]
Young Rich Nigga, I’m draped up in Versace, I went up to the jeweler, when I left I’m playing hockey
Bad bitches like it, she see Rarris & Buggatis, I’m popping bottles in the vip, she rolling off a Molly
Fendi Prada Louie bally, I don’t need a stylist, I’m taking all my goons to Cali, then we hit the islands
Order up 500 1s, I throw it all it follies, plug in Japan, so we kick it like karate
Bad bitch from Switzerland, her daddy G. O`Donnie, every time I’m on the phone we talking bout some money
I weigh it up, and wrap it up, I ship it across the country, the streets are concrete jungle play the game like it’s Jamungie[Hook][Verse: Off-Set]
My pockets is sloppy, only buy Rarris and Gottis, my clothes are exotic, Versace you copy
Migo gang is my possy, takin over like the Nazi’s, I just got out the county, money old like Bill Cosby
Hunnid bands, in all hundreds, when I make it rain it thunder, cop a lam every summer, rapping bricks like it’s a condom
I’m a rich nigga bitch, don’t even think about licks, slap a nigga with a stack, then I piss on that bitch
In the club sippin lean, but I’m still buying cris, shawty wanna talk to Off-Set, bitch you ain’t on the list
Don’t mix the lean with the sprite, drink my mud out the seil, I’m in Louie and Bally, I rock my bitches Chanel[Hook][Verse: Take-Off]
Young Rich Nigga, follow me like Twitter, all green diamonds on my neck, look like the wriller
Red, White, & Green Louie`s, bought them on the day of Christmas
Art the teacher, you the student, put you in detention
I got the camic, you my chef, and put you in the kitchen, now you dirty dancing boarding wippin washing dishes
I took yo main bitch and then I turned her to my mistress, pull up in Audi pull up in Rarri, whip full of net, it is a mystery
The rich nigga of the century, it’s going down in history, energizer bunny, wrist keep going, it got energy
Back then you ain’t know me, now that sack make you remember me, get the .45 for my enemy, tell the Lord forgive tha sin in me

———- ooo ———-

Ever wonder what larger ramifications awaiting society as this generation of young scholars hits their 30s having been raised on a constant barrage of this type of cultural brain shit?

We won’t draw you the map. Just go to Cumby’s on First Street and risk your life with an hour of people watching.

Have a great weekend, everybody.

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Moral certainty has no place in political debate” — Sir Donald Turpentine, Knight of the Bath.

“OPEN THE WINDOW, AUNT MILLIE.”

LOVE TO ALL.

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Jonathan A. Melle
Jonathan A. Melle
13 days ago

Growth in Pittsfield = The Underclass, along with taxes, pot, violent crime, social services & welfare….

Jonathan A. Melle
Jonathan A. Melle
Reply to  danvalenti
13 days ago

Wayfair cutting 1,750 jobs, double the size of August layoffsIts second round of layoffs; first round was last August 2022. 10 percent of their workforce will receive pink slips on this “Unhappy” Friday in early-2023. CEO cofounder Niraj Shah said that he over-hired. Wayfair’s stock price has lost 75 percent of its value over the past year.
Source: By Boston Globe reporter Aaron Pressman, 1/20/2023

Markus Aurelius
Markus Aurelius
Reply to  Jonathan A. Melle
13 days ago

If I’m not mistaken, Flat Tyer gave them a tax break too at the Pittsfield taxpayers expense.

Over hired huh? Quite contrary to how robust the economy and job market is according to China Joe Xiden.

Snark ShARK
Snark ShARK
Reply to  Markus Aurelius
13 days ago

Yup, trying to build a tax base by giving all the big new business tax breaks. But if you are elderly and been paying ever rising taxes here for 50 years there is no break for you. And this mayor dares you to miss a payment. She dares you.

Gobsig
Gobsig
Reply to  Markus Aurelius
13 days ago

Good work LinDUH

John Dutton
John Dutton
Reply to  Jonathan A. Melle
13 days ago

Bed Bath and Beyond will be closing shortly as well

John Dutton
John Dutton
Reply to  Jonathan A. Melle
13 days ago

Our current and former Senator as well as our state rep have failed to deliver zilch in the way of new business to Pittsfield. You can pretend all you want the city has become Holyoke. No meaningful jobs, crime, schools are a mess, no tax base, Sorry but dip wad Krol or any Mayoral candidate is going to save this cesspool

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Charles Kronick
Charles Kronick
Reply to  John Dutton
13 days ago

“Our current and former Senator as well as our state rep have failed to deliver zilch in the way of new business to Pittsfield.”

I made that point during the tax hike hearing. I had pointed out that commercial growth has declined consistently over the Tyer administration and that reflects a failure to attract and retain business. Businesses tend to pay more in property and real estate and can do so revenue permitting.

As a result, the resident bears the weight. It may be the state reps’ fault, but the City leadership could educate the public why we are so deep in the hole.

Last edited 13 days ago by Charles Kronick
Jonathan A. Melle
Jonathan A. Melle
Reply to  Charles Kronick
13 days ago

The 3 useless Berkshire-based State Reps – Tricia, Smitty & John – and State Senator Paul Mark only do DISSERVICES! PAC Man Richie Neal only represents K Street’s corporate lobbyist firms, especially insurance companies. Ed Markey (D- HOT AIR) lives in Chevy Chase, Maryland. Elizabeth Warren does not live anywhere near Main Street USA. Joe Biden takes in more big money from Wall Street and K Street (along with Ukraine, Russia and China) than any other politician in US history. Pittsfield politics has NO representation on Beacon Hill and the Swamp!

fizzlehead
fizzlehead
Reply to  Jonathan A. Melle
12 days ago

Not sure what representation Pittsfield citizens have outside the city limits but they are surely lacking within the city limits. People like Marchetti, who had the power position to effect positive change, chose not to do so. He has let his whole community down.
And now he wants to be mayor??? Are you even serious Pete? Please tell me this is a joke. One of those funny/not funny jokes?

L3W C 4 O
L3W C 4 O
Reply to  Jonathan A. Melle
12 days ago

7 members of the city council are a growth on Pittsfield

fizzlehead
fizzlehead
Reply to  L3W C 4 O
12 days ago

see…. “anal fissure”

ShirleyKnutz
ShirleyKnutz
13 days ago

Great commentary on today’s society. You really don’t have to wait to see where this will go, the 90’s rap lyrics were just as disgusting and you see where that has led us. It is time to stop using the Kapanski’s hard earned money on the leeches of society. I found it funny reading an article, I believe it was in the hate rag, about how governments can’t be run like a business and they need to go into debt during a recession to pull society out. Well a politician will always say society is in recession and the government needs to spend! Time to go to a balanced budget which includes all debt payments so in 3 generations we may be back to a sustainable government.

Pat
Pat
13 days ago

So scary Dan, but this is the government plan for these young people. The lyrics of that song certainly are not building critical thinking skills and isn’t that the point? What they have learned in the schools is the opposite of critical thinking. The song is filled with nasty names for women at a time when women are supposed to be highly respected and dreams of being rich while living off of the government. The two just don’t go together. You’ll never get ambition while living off of the government. Women will be treated as the lowest of the low after listening to so-called music like that. It shows the hypocrisy of everything in our society right now.

Last edited 13 days ago by Pat
Shittsfield
Shittsfield
13 days ago

With kids like dis, ain’t no wonder Shittsfield has just ranked 15th worst city in state.

Totally Lokull,
Totally Lokull,
Reply to  Shittsfield
13 days ago

Sturgeon, The school committee’s finest shill said to Tyer,we are on the right path….

Gobsig
Gobsig
Reply to  Totally Lokull,
13 days ago

LinDUH has us on the psychopath

Butrum Closretbanx
Butrum Closretbanx
Reply to  Gobsig
11 days ago

Yes, a pathetic path.

Snark Shark
Snark Shark
Reply to  Totally Lokull,
12 days ago

is that the path that leads to the edge of the cliff?

Pat
Pat
Reply to  Shittsfield
13 days ago

North Adams is listed as the 2nd worst city in the state. Reasons given for both cities is a declining economy, lack of jobs, and quality of life.

fizzlehead
fizzlehead
Reply to  Pat
13 days ago

nothing about lack of leadership?

Pat
Pat
Reply to  fizzlehead
13 days ago

No because then it would directly point at the Democrats as the cause of the problems and they would never allow that criticism.

Jumpin Joe Curtis
Jumpin Joe Curtis
13 days ago

Maybe you can see one of the SPED paraprofessionals from PHS taking her daily walk with the students to get coffee and smokes at Cumby’s

Yes it happened and probably still does

This is what happens when you choose me, Jumpin Joe Curtis, as your Superintendent… I graduated from the University of Phoenix, not like those shmucks before me with their doctorates

Last edited 13 days ago by Jumpin Joe Curtis
ChattyCathy
ChattyCathy
13 days ago

Perhaps moral uncertainty is the basis for the breakdown in our culture?
Broken homes, lack of fathers, no sense of right or wrong, no spiritual core values, attitude of entitlement, no work ethic, and schools that prefer to teach CRT & sex rather than reading, math & science!

Moral certainty absolutely has a place in political debate!

Charles Kronick
Charles Kronick
Reply to  ChattyCathy
13 days ago

Common Sense!

fizzlehead
fizzlehead
Reply to  danvalenti
12 days ago

I hear that from the religious right folk who do not think woman should have the right to have an abortion. Should they be able to speak for all woman in the country?

Agent 86
Agent 86
Reply to  fizzlehead
11 days ago

Abortion = fewer democrats

bonner
bonner
13 days ago

What Dan describes is not unique to the Pitt, as he so eloquently points out, but is the truth for every large city in Massachusetts and the USA. We are correct in feeling the way we do and pointing out the obvious problems. But we need to realize that these are problems to be solved, because they won’t go away by themselves.

For starters, black rap, however crass and misogynistic, is a reflection of their culture. To members of that culture, rap lyrics are much more relevant than a Mozart symphony. Viewing these problems as just a helpless mishmosh of negatives doesn’t help solve the problem.

Pat
Pat
Reply to  bonner
13 days ago

Unfortunately it’s a culture built on the breakdown of the family unit. All of the anger toward women seems to be about a single mother trying to raise these young people and having to be extra tough because there is no father in the picture and the young people act out against the situation by thinking all women are evil. The schools also promote this by trying to separate the kids from the family unit and replacing it with the authority of the state. The politicians are working hand in hand with the schools and do nothing to strengthen the family unit by emphasizing its importance. Instead they want big government to replace the family unit which is a recipe for disaster.

Last edited 13 days ago by Pat
ShirleyKnutz
ShirleyKnutz
Reply to  Pat
13 days ago

1984 Orwellian society has arrived!!

Two Cents
Two Cents
Reply to  bonner
13 days ago

I agree that rap is a cultural expression for a generation that some may see as obscene. But for others, express their own feelings of rage and disappointment with the pathos around them. People had similar feelings over Allen Ginsberg’s poetry.

Snark ShARK
Snark ShARK
Reply to  bonner
13 days ago

Do black mothers with black daughters think those lyrics are cool and represent their cultural norms? Have they ever spoken for or against such lyrics? What would Martin Luther think?

Gobsig
Gobsig
Reply to  bonner
13 days ago

Neither does your word salad BS.

bonner
bonner
Reply to  Gobsig
13 days ago

???

levitan
levitan
Reply to  bonner
11 days ago

Gobsig is talking about your relativistic claptrap.

Last edited 11 days ago by levitan
bonner
bonner
Reply to  levitan
11 days ago

I see. Well, I think it is worth discussing.

Lenny
Lenny
13 days ago

Wowee! 11:15 am and my residential street has been plowed & sanded!
Sir Charles is right – the Persip attempt at getting new salts & equipment purchases to detract from the snowmageddon issue was right on the money!
Thank you Sir Charles for fighting on behalf of the taxpayers!
Looking forward to the snow job report on Tuesday night.

Totally Lokull,
Totally Lokull,
Reply to  Lenny
13 days ago

Persip and Guile never are right.

Gobsig
Gobsig
Reply to  Totally Lokull,
13 days ago

Both sleepy Earl and drowsy Dina live in a dream world detached from reality. Did the DA figure Dina out yet?

Markus Aurelius
Markus Aurelius
13 days ago

How long do you think it will be before MA’s illegal immigrants czar, Tricia Farley-Country Buffet, (D-illegal immigrants) will “deliver” grant money to Flat Tyer, in return for housing these illegals?

Remember when Krol runs for mayor, he supported unvetted Syrian refugees coming to Pittsfield a few years ago. So he is no stranger to the “riches” of grant money.

Snark ShARK
Snark ShARK
Reply to  Markus Aurelius
13 days ago

He is another one of those guys that made sure he was not going be living any where near the riff raff. Got himself a nice spread out in the country where no gang bangers or homeless bums will ever venture. It is much easier to govern a city going to hell in a handbag when you are isolated from its actual spiral.

John Dutton
John Dutton
Reply to  Markus Aurelius
13 days ago

Oh when the Skeletons are released from Krols closet it’s going to be epic!

Gobsig
Gobsig
Reply to  John Dutton
13 days ago

Neither three minute Marchetti or slick John Krol have the ability to lead. They are well past their sell by dates and both are Tyer bootlickers.

The City I Hate
The City I Hate
Reply to  John Dutton
13 days ago

Release the slime on that smarmy Kraken creature!

Lenny
Lenny
Reply to  The City I Hate
12 days ago

Not yet, wait until closer to voting time.

Lenny
Lenny
Reply to  Lenny
12 days ago

Keep your powder dry as some on the blog support Krol and you will give them ammo to figure out a response way before the debates. Don’t discount the element of surprise!

Agent 86
Agent 86
Reply to  Lenny
11 days ago

Krol is slippery and slimy.

Totally Lokull,
Totally Lokull,
Reply to  Markus Aurelius
13 days ago

He’s also a progressive Bernie poop head.

Charles Kronick
Charles Kronick
13 days ago

Dan, too bad you couldn’t offer a range. Beethoven, Mozart, Wagner, Baroque trumpet concerti. Let him pick which he likes more.

Wynton Marsalis argues that rap is a dead-end for abandoning the blues. He’s probably correct. The good stuff will return.

Gobsig
Gobsig
Reply to  Charles Kronick
13 days ago

If they could kick the tar out of people put to a nice piece like in a clockwork orange they might get into better music

That girl
That girl
13 days ago

I ran into an interesting video of a plow plowing through a stop sign at the intersection of Linden and onota st. By the crossroads.

file:///var/mobile/Library/SMS/Attachments/c9/09/67C322A8-DDC2-4118-AF0D-E797CE7B19BB/MOV_2876.mov

Gobsig
Gobsig
Reply to  danvalenti
13 days ago

No discipline but a rotary is under consideration for that intersection.

Hell Toupee
Hell Toupee
Reply to  Gobsig
12 days ago

No bike lanes?

ShirleyKnutz
ShirleyKnutz
Reply to  Hell Toupee
11 days ago

No the poor disadvantaged youth on bikes have to somehow get to the destruction at Springside to ride as far away from the crazy drivers as possible, unfortunately they somehow have to navigate their way to Springside. It is funny how there are no bike lanes on the West Side,

sNarK ShArK
sNarK ShArK
Reply to  Gobsig
11 days ago

How about a tunnel? If there were a tunnel there running north to south that plow driver would have never hit that car as the car would have traveled beneath him.

NOTE to mayor: Tunnels at every intersection in Pittsfield. Dynamic and new world technology putting Pittsfield on the right path.

Also, tunnels on North street for the bike lanes as well as politicians with tunnel vision.

Merry & Bright
Merry & Bright
Reply to  danvalenti
12 days ago

Totally agree with you. I also feel that since the legalization of pot, can’t help but wonder how many drivers on Pittsfield streets are totally stoned out of their mind, that includes City workers. This legalization should not have taken place in Massachusetts until a test was developed to check a driver’s capability to drive and employers could also randomly check their employees. This erratic driving is running rampant in Pittsfield, many times I have followed Cheech and Chong on Dalton Avenue and Merrill Road driving like maniacs.

Lenny
Lenny
Reply to  Merry & Bright
12 days ago

I agree Merry. Too many pot shops in Linduh’s city. That pot growing facility on Dalton Ave is a huge eyesore – how did that pass through zoning?

Snark Shark
Snark Shark
Reply to  Lenny
12 days ago

Well it certainly was not through political connections if that is what you are suggesting. The whole permitting process was open and above board, according to Barnun and Bailey oversight specialists.

In Da Know
In Da Know
Reply to  Merry & Bright
12 days ago

OK Karen

levitan
levitan
Reply to  In Da Know
11 days ago

Someday there will be the time when no one will admit to calling someone a karen.

“Mom, did you ever call someone a karen?”
“Oh, no peanut! I would never use that kind of language!”

levitan
levitan
Reply to  In Da Know
11 days ago

*Even PV censors rejected the word! (pending approval)

Get Over It
Get Over It
Reply to  In Da Know
10 days ago

fyi nobody wants you here.

Snark Shark
Snark Shark
Reply to  danvalenti
12 days ago

Sounds like active lawsuit number 792 for Pittsfield. Anybody got access to records of the the legal misfortunes the city is involved in right now? Erbody bin tolt to shut da hell up. don be knoin nuttin round herh…wer on da rite path eye tell ya

It’s Quavo, not Quaro
It’s Quavo, not Quaro
13 days ago

What an extremely bigoted column. Shame on you for making light of someone being murdered.

What don’t you like about this song? The swear words? It may not be in your particular vernacular but surely you comprehend the message – “I’m a rich rapper, I enjoy the finer things in life, I dress well, drink well, treat my friends well, and the rest of you are plebs.”

Would you prefer a rap song detailing a life of slinging drugs and robbing people? Is that what you expect from young black culture? Is that what you prefer?

What is your actual problem with the song?

Markus Aurelius
Markus Aurelius
Reply to  danvalenti
12 days ago

Dan, until I read about your explanation of Migos and his death, I honestly didn’t know anything about him or his death…..or really care.

If gambling is his thing and the money these young rap guys flaunt and pi$$ away, why not go to a casino?

I don’t ever recall a super-rock group like Led Zeppelin singing about gun play, urinating on any person, or repeatedly using the lyric “honkie” in reference to white people.

I’d be lying if I said classical music was my taste in music. But I’d certainly listen to it over rap music of today.

This young generation thinks they are entitled to benefits cracks me up. Not self pride or work ethic.

I get it though, white privilege as hustled by Dr. Shirley Edgerton, PHD-RACE PEDDLER

Last edited 12 days ago by Markus Aurelius
West Palm
West Palm
Reply to  Markus Aurelius
11 days ago

Led Zeppelin were not altar boys. You must have been hitting the ludes hard back in the day.

SnArK ShaArK
SnArK ShaArK
Reply to  It’s Quavo, not Quaro
12 days ago

How is a young black woman suppose to develop self respect and self empowerment when famous black icons are rapping about how they sexually mistreat woman and that the woman love it. I see it as incredibly demeaning to woman and do not understand that the black community seems OK with it. Maybe one of them could explain it to me?

levitan
levitan
Reply to  It’s Quavo, not Quaro
11 days ago

You also misread it. It says, “I’m a rich pimp and drug distributor. Kiss my ferrari” Also, Nazi worship. Clearly the piece is junk music.

Relativist argument, yours.

levitan
levitan
13 days ago

Trigger Warning! This is a tangent.

You heard here on PV first. Civil war has arrived again, same time last century, to Moscow and will turn hot within the next six weeks. AP-MRF agents,whilst dissolving very difficult monuments to steel abstractions discovered this news in top secret communications between Prigozhin and Kadyrov that got mixed into a post-modernist art collage at MassMoCA.

The armaments newly spotted upon Moscow buildings are for anti-coup insurance.

Glory to AP-MRF! The Anti Post-Modern Revolutionary Front! Glory to Beethoven and Mozart’s Magic Flute! Putin Schmutin! They’re all the same.

Merry & Bright
Merry & Bright
13 days ago

Had a very disgusting experience early today on Tyer’s Vibrant & Dynamic North Street. In trying to run an errand at a merchant on North Street I was confronted by Tyer’s Nazi Parking Officer stating that I could not park on that side of North Street. Told the Nazi that I was just dropping off something and it would take all of one minute. His words were “Lady, rules are rules”. Have to admit that I did not respond like a lady and just ignored him and went about my short errand! There was not a City plow around the area. I did mention to the merchant that I was told that there was no parking in front of his business today, he said he was unaware of this. Felt bad for the owner, tough way to have to run a business. I also noticed this merchant was the only one that had shoveled his sidewalk. This type of behavior from the Tyer Administration proves why North Street has become a ghost town. I drove by this merchant’s store late this afternoon and the City had yet to plow out the street! That was seven hours after I was confronted by the Nazi parking officer! Totally pathetic to treat tax paying businesses, no wonder they are all closing.

Gobsig
Gobsig
Reply to  Merry & Bright
12 days ago

Tyer puts the duh in linduh.

Lenny
Lenny
Reply to  Merry & Bright
12 days ago

It would appear that the Tyer admin’s plan is to wipe out retail on North St., based on the bike lane mess, parking kiosks, lack of parking spaces and crime. What is the longterm plan for that area? How much property does Deanna own on North St? How is HON still in business?

Snark Shark
Snark Shark
Reply to  Lenny
12 days ago

Did you not hear? One of the long time successful business s on North street is going to stay a while longer. In her infinite wisdom the mayor sees this as a huge sign of a revival for North street. It seems a low bar for that assessment but if it is all ya got you go with it.

(kind of sad huh?)

Jumpin Joe Curtis
Jumpin Joe Curtis
Reply to  Merry & Bright
12 days ago

Had it been 24 hours since the snow ? If so, time to start fining those businesses.

Rules are Rules

Peet
Peet
12 days ago

Is magnesium chloride same as limestone.

Muree the plunger
Muree the plunger
Reply to  Peet
12 days ago

It’s the same as rotting your vehicle. Nasty stuff.

Charles Kronick
Charles Kronick
Reply to  Muree the plunger
12 days ago

“It’s the same as rotting your vehicle”
That’s because MgCl2 is an acid salt. It chemically splits water in to form acid. NaCl does not react with water – just produces chloride ions.

All solutions (pun) have costs. Magnesium chloride is a relatively new product for salt treatment, so there is good reason to doubt the value of its benefits. Depending on how well it is applied, the following may be disadvantages to consider, even though they are not present in the Commissioner’s report:

A: Slow damage to concrete: MgCl2 reacts (slowly) with concrete converting it to paste. Also, more freeze-thaw cycles increases scaling. If you have a concrete driveway, this could be an expensive problem. Some doubts on this one.(1)

B: Difficult to control brine concentration – reports of black ice at moderate temperature:
MgCl2 is reported to be slippery at near freezing temperatures. (2)
Dilution can cause black ice at -6 centigrade (2)

C: Environmentally more destructive. (Not a permanent issue tends to be minor): Chloride ion kills vegetation. MgCl2 has twice concentration of chloride ion as NaCl (halite) – thus twice scorching impact on vegetation.

The two reactions show the amounts, acid, and corrosive chloride.

MgCl2 (solid) + H20 (liquid) –> Mg2+(OH) + 2Cl- + 2H+ (acid)

NaCl –> Na+ + Cl-

NaCl does not split water molecules and does not produce acid.
That’s half the acid and chloride for halite compared to mag. Clearly, magnesium chloride is much more destructive because it produces higher concentrations of chloride and the additional acid. Further, there should be more saturation of deep crevasses in undercarraiges (more difficult to clean). This concern makes me cautious, having now tossed out 4 pefectly good cars in the last 10 years because the metal disappeared in spite of frequent cleaning.

Maybe we don’t really want the magnesium. The Commisioner’s report indicates that towns using magnesium did not fare very well. The obvious answer is only use it at sub 10 degree farenheit and sparingly. Judging by the piles of salt where the plows slow and stop raises doubts.

All solutions have (lots) of costs often unacceptable to those who are supposedly served by them. This is why good governance demands great care in developing them. My solution: pretreat with regular salt and keep residents informed. When we are all rich, wealthy with money to burn, we can spend $50,000 on magnesium.

Sources: both are biases in terms of industry interests, but they float for me.
1) Magnesium Chloride As A Road Deicer: A Critical Review – Peters Chemical Company

2)The Growing Case Against Magnesium Chloride – Eco Solutions (eco-solutions.net)

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Agent 86
Agent 86
Reply to  Charles Kronick
11 days ago

Personally, i save soy sauce packets all year and I throw the packets in ny driveway and burst them by driving over them. Wirks like a charm

Charles Kronick
Charles Kronick
Reply to  Agent 86
11 days ago

Toss the tofu in with it and kill two birds with one stone.

Mad Trapper
Mad Trapper
Reply to  Charles Kronick
10 days ago

Your redox equation is not balanced for charge.

Charles Kronick
Charles Kronick
Reply to  Mad Trapper
10 days ago

Point well taken. The draft below I believe corrects that.

Last edited 10 days ago by Charles Kronick
Charles Kronick
Charles Kronick
Reply to  Muree the plunger
12 days ago

Draft – linked version is pending approval.

“It’s the same as rotting your vehicle”
That’s because MgCl2 is an acid salt. It chemically splits water in to form acid (H+). NaCl does not react with water – just produces chloride ions.
All solutions (pun) have costs. Magnesium chloride is a relatively new product for salt treatment, so there is good reason to doubt the value of its benefits. Depending on how well it is applied, the following may be disadvantages to consider, even though they are not present in the Commissioner’s report:

A: Slow damage to concrete: MgCl2 reacts (slowly) with concrete converting it to paste. Also, more freeze-thaw cycles increases scaling. If you have a concrete driveway, this could be an expensive problem. Some doubts on this one.(1)

B: Difficult to control brine concentration – reports of black ice at moderate temperature:
MgCl2 is reported to be slippery at near freezing temperatures. (2)
Dilution can cause black ice at -6 centigrade (2)

C: Environmentally more destructive. (Not a permanent issue tends to be minor): Chloride ion kills vegetation. MgClhas twice concentration of chloride ion as NaCl (halite) – thus twice scorching impact on vegetation.

The two reactions show the amounts, acid, and corrosive chloride.

Mg(Cl)2  + HOH –> MgOH + 2Cl- + 2H+ (acid)
NaCl + HOH –> Na+ + Cl- + HOH

NaCl does not split water molecules and does not produce acid.
That’s half the acid and chloride for halite compared to mag. Clearly, magnesium chloride is much more destructive because it produces higher concentrations of chloride and the additional acid. Further, there should be more saturation of deep crevasses in undercarraiges (more difficult to clean). This concern makes me cautious, having now tossed out 4 pefectly good cars in the last 10 years because the metal disappeared in spite of frequent cleaning.

Maybe we don’t really want the magnesium. The Commisioner’s report indicates that towns using magnesium did not fare very well. The obvious answer is only use it at sub 10 degree farenheit and sparingly. Judging by the piles of salt where the plows slow and stop raises doubts.

All solutions have (lots) of costs often unacceptable to those who are supposedly served by them. This is why good governance demands great care in developing them. My solution: pretreat with regular salt and keep residents informed. When we are all rich, wealthy with money to burn, we can spend $50,000 on magnesium.
Sources: both are biases in terms of industry interests, but they float for me.

Last edited 12 days ago by Charles Kronick
Peet
Peet
Reply to  Muree the plunger
12 days ago

Perhaps her friends are running their blasted construction debris by a gin and trying to sell it for the roadways.

Mr. Worldwide
Mr. Worldwide
Reply to  Peet
11 days ago

If it was, they would call it limestone. Duh!

Charles Kronick
Charles Kronick
Reply to  Mr. Worldwide
11 days ago

That’s true.

Also, the town of Adams would be called the Dead Sea of Adams.

Agent 86
Agent 86
Reply to  Peet
11 days ago

Limestone is mostly calcium carbonate. Used in gardens and on lawns.

Snark Shark
Snark Shark
12 days ago

Eagle has Morales snow job report. Ya got to read it to appreciate it. Bottom line is the city was in the trenches fighting like hell aginst impossible odds and crash victims are whiners who cannot drive.

Will not be surprised if the mayor hands out medals to Morales and others who were involved either actively or looking out windows with their hands up in the air.

Muree the plunger
Muree the plunger
Reply to  Snark Shark
12 days ago

Agree. Morales should be given a raise,a medal and then a citation to appear in superior court for endangering the lives of taxpayers that day. I can attest that there was zero anything on my street that day. Not even a mouse.

Muree the plunger
Muree the plunger
Reply to  Snark Shark
12 days ago

,
Bull sheet of ice.

Lenny
Lenny
Reply to  Snark Shark
12 days ago

That report is full of bs. The city called a snow emergency over this past Friday’s storm which generated 2 inches max with ice. Another storm emergency has been called for this coming Monday’s storm. Who was responsible for calling in a code red for the Christmas storm? And if the mayor was out of town, who was in charge?
I call BS on the statement that crews were out in full force on Dec. 23-25th. I was out on the horrible roads Dec 23, 24th & 25th and never saw a plow or evidence of plowing. There was a 7-car pileup on the outer Williams St hill on Christmas Eve! Surrounding towns had no issue clearing the snow! The city’s failure to clear the snow was not due to equipment or supplies and people need to be held accountable!

Snark Shark
Snark Shark
Reply to  danvalenti
11 days ago

Often times the lying and cover up is considered worse than the original misdeed. But there was not one person in Pittsfield or Berkshire county who expected the mayors report to read any different than it did. It is what she does.

Curious if Marchetti endorses the report. Get this guy on video with his detailed comment. (if you can find him)

But this is what you get when there is no oversight. No one with the balls to stand up to the outright deception.
You did not see what you saw, says the mayor. There must be something wrong with you if you saw mismanagement that day.

Markus Aurelius
Markus Aurelius
12 days ago

If anyone knows how to post pictures on here, make a quick search of Ricardo Morales, Pittsfield, MA, will bring up the picture of Ricky Rumpus on his bird scooter heading to work. I do not know how to, otherwise I’d post it.

Sir Chaz, if you present a slide show at the city council meeting, be sure to include that pic and title it “Ricky Rumpus to the Rescue.”

Flat Tyer, Ricky, Dina Simpson-Washington-Thompkins-Horton-Williams-Lampiasi, might not find it funny, but the taxpayers will. The taxpayers need some levity. Only race baiters and hustlers get money in this city. Besides, they hate you any way. Nada to lose.

Last edited 12 days ago by Markus Aurelius
Charles Kronick
Charles Kronick
Reply to  Markus Aurelius
12 days ago

I do have a petition for Comm. Morales on that agenda.

Muree the plunger
Muree the plunger
Reply to  Charles Kronick
12 days ago

Yeah,saw it Charles. How about a no confidence petition for this Mayor,and DPW Commisioner. It’s been seven years Linduh? Hess still stands for Christ sakes. Fuel and Dumpster,Kavey,White Conant, are useless.

Charles Kronick
Charles Kronick
Reply to  Muree the plunger
12 days ago

Why not bring a 4′ x 8′ version to city council and offer it? Always give your manager solutions, not problems.
If everyone brought one, we councilors could vote on the best design.

Last edited 12 days ago by Charles Kronick
Muree the plunger
Muree the plunger
Reply to  Charles Kronick
12 days ago

City taxes and now water rates are a problem.Where’s the solution?

Pat
Pat
Reply to  Muree the plunger
11 days ago

Get rid of the far left Democrats who only know how to tax us to death.

Markus Aurelius
Markus Aurelius
Reply to  Muree the plunger
11 days ago

Dr. Shirley Edgerton, PhD-RACE HUSTLER, spent the money on the “solution” to the problem, by exploring her, her family, and family friend’s, roots in Africa this past summer. Under the ROPES guise Shirley, correct?

Any chance Dr. Edgerton would like to comment on the recent arrests of young POC, caught up in large scale operations of selling methamphetamine, heroin, and firearms? Ultra MAGA or white privilege has to be it!!

If meth takes over the Berkshires, look out. You ain’t seen numphin yet. Search “tweakers” on YouTube and enjoy, until it’s in your backyard. All Flat Tyers parking kiosks better be gated up. That copper is valuable to tweakers.

Hell Toupee
Hell Toupee
12 days ago

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Butrum Closretbanx
Butrum Closretbanx
Reply to  Hell Toupee
11 days ago

Lincoln Street?

Snark Shark
Snark Shark
Reply to  Butrum Closretbanx
11 days ago

Apparently he felt it wise to wear a helmet while riding these scooters. But I defy you to find a picture of any of the hundreds of children, who road these up and down North street and in and out of moving traffic, with a helmet on. Or find me a picture of anyone discouraging the children from weaving in and out of moving cars, trucks and buses.

OOPS, never mind, I just saw a report that said no child was ever on one of these scooters and any accounts showing them paying for using them are counterfeit. Took a while for the report to come out but, yup, its there. My bad.

Butrum Closretbanx
Butrum Closretbanx
Reply to  Hell Toupee
11 days ago

Heading to work? Wrong way Ricky

Pat
Pat
Reply to  Butrum Closretbanx
11 days ago

He’s a perfect liberal using his scooter to save the planet. I bet he isn’t using it now, but maybe he’s young enough to take a terrible fall and not get hurt.

fizzlehead
fizzlehead
Reply to  Hell Toupee
11 days ago

Looks like there is room to mount a small vibrant and dynamic tank of Magnesium chloride on the under belly.

Markus Aurelius
Markus Aurelius
Reply to  Hell Toupee
11 days ago

In the MA illegal immigrants champion, Tricia Farley-Country Buffet’s (D-illegal immigrants) new native tongue, “gracias por publica la imagen.”

Translation: thank you for posting the picture.

ShirleyKnutz
ShirleyKnutz
11 days ago

Came across a great Lou Holtz quote when asked about the difference between today’s athlete and 50 years ago, he said “today the athletes talk of rights and privileges, 50 years ago they talked of responsibility and obligations”. I am hoping the city council realizes their responsibility and obligation to the people of Pittsfield when they meet Tuesday. I remember the storm they are talking about, having to drive people throughout the storm and my experience is completely different then what the report said in the hate rag. Dalton and Lenox roads were fine, Pittsfield the complete opposite. My street wasn’t plowed until it was too late. A funny sight during the storm was I city plow truck pushing water scraping the clear pavement on Hubbard road, why was it clear? I believe it’s a Dalton responsibility.

Mr. Worldwide
Mr. Worldwide
Reply to  ShirleyKnutz
11 days ago

Dalton Division is Dalton’s responsibility. Hubbard belongs to Pittsfield.

Bills Inaromp
Bills Inaromp
Reply to  ShirleyKnutz
11 days ago

The quote was we did all we could. Yes you did Ricky. After the seventy accidents. You HAD to have HAD at least one call from P P D requesting salt or sand somewhere in between those seventy accidents? Which started early morning. Charles please check the log on that.

Agent 86
Agent 86
Reply to  ShirleyKnutz
10 days ago

Unfortunately in Pittsfield we have Ass Holtz

Pat
Pat
11 days ago

Seventeen people on the terrorist watch list were arrested trying to come over the border this week. That’s just this week and these are the ones they caught. It just shows that terrorists are using the open borders to get into our country to cause violence. What is our government’s response since their first duty is to protect its citizens? As the country gets more violent, the governments response will be a police state. This will give the government much more power, but the people may be begging for the police state at that point since it will be so violent. In California, an autistic girl was raped and murdered by a teenager who had recently come over the border. M-13 gangs are spreading across the country. I hear that Maryland, the entire state, is a very dangerous place to live right now. Whole states are now being overrun with violence.

Last edited 11 days ago by Pat
Merry & Bright
Merry & Bright
11 days ago

Just finished reading the Tyer Administration 20 page bulls*** propaganda on the Christmas storm. Wonder how many hours it took to compile this pack of lies? Taxpayers could care less about the pie charts and graphs, they would just appreciate the truth from the Liar Tyer Administration. Why is it that most taxpayers did not see a plow in their neighborhood yet Morales said they were out plowing, if no one saw them, where were they? Just once in Tyer’s “reign” it would be nice if she could just admit they screwed up. Why is the accident count 30 plus accidents less than what the PPD reported? Have spoken to many workers in stores that do not own a vehicle and were relying on public bus transportation on Christmas eve to get home to their families and church. They told me they had to wait outside in the storm for almost 2 1/2 hours for the bus to arrive, no fault of the bus company. Wonder how many broken bones and bruises the hospital ER took in. Bottom line, people should either step down or be fired due to blatant lack of service. But I am sure Tuesday night except for a few councilors that fight for the taxpayers the rest will be disgustingly staring at their laps, playing on their phones with complete boredom on their faces as they listen to the taxpayers at the open mic. May I suggest that they leave their cellphones in the back room and start paying attention to the job they are supposed to be performing, and that job is NOT kissing Tyer’s butt, it is working for the taxpayers.

Chuck Garivaltis"/"
Chuck Garivaltis"/"
11 days ago

Dan, just returned from an out of state visit to one of our sons. My driving skills were put to a test and even Carm will admit I am doing fine. That means I am able to drive to the RLI for a long overdue breakfast that has to be on me. You name the date and time and I will be happy to be there. Looking forward to our political and athletic discussions.
Chuck

Totally Lokull
Totally Lokull
Reply to  danvalenti
10 days ago

Gaetani has been calling for morales head for years,the G-man stated that morales is way over his head as up DPW commissioner G-man also states that the exorbitant cost of the treatment plants is due to Morales lack of scientific engineering know how.

Gaetani got rid of three DPW commissioners, Doyle,Collingwood and Turocy, and a fourth soon when morales is fired. Gitanas has asked Morales on many occasions to be allowed into the water plants to help the operators to run the plan is efficiently as possible, morales has consistently blocked the G man as request,looks as though the G-man will have to get rid of Morales just like he did the past three commissioners.

G-man is one of the three individuals were invented,designed,and built the Krofta warer facilities. Gaetani states that morales should be because of his involvement with failed programs which city residence in harms way such as the snow debacle and the preposterous cost at the cities treatment plants.Gaetani states that Morales must go as he is not capable of performing his duties spelled out in the employment contract with the city of Pittsfield.He must go the sooner the better.